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Olympus
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Olympus wrote:
if the 12 euro package had 9 tokens, would you be more likely to buy it and/or more often?

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:
i guess this question is for people who don't get tokens, almost buy tokens, buy tokens once a month or wish to only buy the lower packages

Solar
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Solar wrote:
wouldn't going from 5 tokens to 9 tokens be kind of a big jump?

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:
wouldn't going from 5 tokens to 9 tokens be kind of a big jump?

Is it? you'd have to let me know
I put it that way for the hypothetical, but also, for the real life price, i think you should be able to get the 7 token set and have something left over with it (as in, you should be able to maybe get two items with it)

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Solar wrote:
i'm really bad at math so don't quote me on this but if we're changing the value of the 12 euro pack, we'd have to change the value of all of them i think, which would probably mean less income for vp despite more sets being sold ... (? pls let me know if im wrong hh)

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Sylvan wrote:
I have to be honest I'm confused by the whole tolken thing and too broke irl to really consider buying them anyway

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:
i'm really bad at math so don't quote me on this but if we're changing the value of the 12 euro pack, we'd have to change the value of all of them i think, which would probably mean less income for vp despite more sets being sold ... (? pls let me know if im wrong hh)

I don't know who is buying tokens and how often or which packages they are buying so i can't paint a full picture, but what i am trying to figure out with this question is if there would be MORE sales, if the token sets are a bit more in reach (as in not paying what is the equivalent of 40 dollars my currency, to only get one set but something like 18-19 dollars)

but yes, i think the first 3 packages have not enough in them, and the 96 euro package has too much considering in the before times, the MCM sets stopped at 48euro package...if the value of the 96 euro package trickles down to balance into the packages under it, i wonder if it would make the tokens make more sense

Solar
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Solar wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:
wouldn't going from 5 tokens to 9 tokens be kind of a big jump?

Is it? you'd have to let me know
I put it that way for the hypothetical, but also, for the real life price, i think you should be able to get the 7 token set and have something left over with it (as in, you should be able to maybe get two items with it)

hmm.. i think it's hard to say what one 'should' be able to get or not w the 12eu package because it's not really comparable with the way it worked in MCM
like in theory someone who buys the 12eu package can still get the same amount of sets as they did before when we still had mcm, or do what you say (buy a set and maybe get an item or two), or save up their tokens so they can buy a more expensive set but then its only that one set
so i think saying you should be able to buy a token set you really want with that amount of money kind of goes against why the token system was implemented in the first place, because vp needs more money to stay afloat

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
I have to be honest I'm confused by the whole tolken thing and too broke irl to really consider buying them anyway

and that is valid! what exactly confuses you about them?

Solar
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Solar wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:
i'm really bad at math so don't quote me on this but if we're changing the value of the 12 euro pack, we'd have to change the value of all of them i think, which would probably mean less income for vp despite more sets being sold ... (? pls let me know if im wrong hh)

I don't know who is buying tokens and how often or which packages they are buying so i can't paint a full picture, but what i am trying to figure out with this question is if there would be MORE sales, if the token sets are a bit more in reach (as in not paying what is the equivalent of 40 dollars my currency, to only get one set but something like 18-19 dollars)

but yes, i think the first 3 packages have not enough in them, and the 96 euro package has too much considering in the before times, the MCM sets stopped at 48euro package...if the value of the 96 euro package trickles down to balance into the packages under it, i wonder if it would make the tokens make more sense

mmm yes i see, i also have no clue who buys what of course but i get what you're saying, i guess the value you get out of the token sets really depends on what your currency is like - for me the 12eu package is equivalent to roughly 14 dollars so thats a big price 'difference'

so you're saying divide the tokens currently in the 96 package in the other packages? surely that would lead to less sales right... if i had 20 more tokens to spend when buying the 48 package, i would just buy less often

kind of shooting myself in the foot here lol but yea

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Limited wrote:
no, since i dont support vp with money :3

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Sylvan wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
I have to be honest I'm confused by the whole tolken thing and too broke irl to really consider buying them anyway

and that is valid! what exactly confuses you about them?

I guess it's less confusion and more the fact that it's a bit inconvenient in my opinion to buy the tokens and then look for the tread with the sets that is updated (i don't even know the update rythm?) and then go to the shop.

MCW was you get what you see

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:
wouldn't going from 5 tokens to 9 tokens be kind of a big jump?

Is it? you'd have to let me know
I put it that way for the hypothetical, but also, for the real life price, i think you should be able to get the 7 token set and have something left over with it (as in, you should be able to maybe get two items with it)

hmm.. i think it's hard to say what one 'should' be able to get or not w the 12eu package because it's not really comparable with the way it worked in MCM
like in theory someone who buys the 12eu package can still get the same amount of sets as they did before when we still had mcm, or do what you say (buy a set and maybe get an item or two), or save up their tokens so they can buy a more expensive set but then its only that one set
so i think saying you should be able to buy a token set you really want with that amount of money kind of goes against why the token system was implemented in the first place, because vp needs more money to stay afloat

i don't think so. I believe you guarantee money, when your target audience can buy the product! one of the main concerns before tokens were a fully fleshed out idea, was that you (or people who cannot justify the price) cannot get the set you genuinely want because of where it's placed in MCM and tokens was supposed to address that...but the price still feels like a barrier for some. I guess my concern is what if the thing stopping some people from buying at all is just a few more tokens

I think it can be balanced out and the goal will be achieved more efficiently, but again i can't truly say, which is why i'm asking!

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Olympus wrote:

Limited wrote:
no, since i dont support vp with money :3

are there conditions under which you would support vp with money?

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
I have to be honest I'm confused by the whole tolken thing and too broke irl to really consider buying them anyway

and that is valid! what exactly confuses you about them?

I guess it's less confusion and more the fact that it's a bit inconvenient in my opinion to buy the tokens and then look for the tread with the sets that is updated (i don't even know the update rythm?) and then go to the shop.

MCW was you get what you see

The update rhythm is once a week and a mail arrives in your inbox to let you know!

MCW was get what you see, i agree

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Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Solar wrote:
i'm really bad at math so don't quote me on this but if we're changing the value of the 12 euro pack, we'd have to change the value of all of them i think, which would probably mean less income for vp despite more sets being sold ... (? pls let me know if im wrong hh)

I don't know who is buying tokens and how often or which packages they are buying so i can't paint a full picture, but what i am trying to figure out with this question is if there would be MORE sales, if the token sets are a bit more in reach (as in not paying what is the equivalent of 40 dollars my currency, to only get one set but something like 18-19 dollars)

but yes, i think the first 3 packages have not enough in them, and the 96 euro package has too much considering in the before times, the MCM sets stopped at 48euro package...if the value of the 96 euro package trickles down to balance into the packages under it, i wonder if it would make the tokens make more sense

mmm yes i see, i also have no clue who buys what of course but i get what you're saying, i guess the value you get out of the token sets really depends on what your currency is like - for me the 12eu package is equivalent to roughly 14 dollars so thats a big price 'difference'

so you're saying divide the tokens currently in the 96 package in the other packages? surely that would lead to less sales right... if i had 20 more tokens to spend when buying the 48 package, i would just buy less often

kind of shooting myself in the foot here lol but yea

No, i don't think the packages need an overage, they just need to be balanced! you wouldn't necessarily get 20 extra tokens in that package

i think there shouldn't be as much going on with the 96 package, i'm not sure if people buy it of course, but i assume to make the amount of tokens in it make sense, it needs to have the most, which means by the time you get to the first package, it has the least, but if that's all you can get for the month, you're saving until a singular item you like hits the store. where as sets can start at 2 euros. you should be able to get that set with that first package at LEAST.

is anyone buying a package twice to ensure they get enough? should the token amount be congruent with the cost of the set themselves (the lower packages have a short, so ofc you buy the package up)