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VP is moving to dangerous censorship
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Koolaid wrote:
Ali wrote:
1. we can't see messages
2. miranda wants us to delete those threads
3. we can't see messagesĀ 
Just because Miranda told you does not mean it's just to do so.
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:22
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Solitude wrote:
also miranda should stfu. if she considers tumblr bullying, then maybe she should fire the mod who is a bully
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:23
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Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
Ali wrote:
1. we can't see messages
2. miranda wants us to delete those threads
3. we can't see messagesĀ 
Just because Miranda told you does not mean it's just to do so.
its their job to do so and its mirandas/kais website
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:24
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Koolaid wrote:
Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
Ali wrote:
1. we can't see messages
2. miranda wants us to delete those threads
3. we can't see messagesĀ 
Just because Miranda told you does not mean it's just to do so.
its their job to do so and its mirandas/kais website
That's a very dangerous way of thinking. Just because someone owns a website does not give them a right to do anything they want. They have our IP addresses, are they allowed to dump them on the world wide web? No.
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:27
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Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
Just because Miranda told you does not mean it's just to do so.
its their job to do so and its mirandas/kais website
That's a very dangerous way of thinking. Just because someone owns a website does not give them a right to do anything they want. They have our IP addresses, are they allowed to dump them on the world wide web? No.
ure wrong
it is their right to do with their website what they want as long as they dont hurt human rights
and with the ip adresses its smth different, that has to do smth with data privacy and protection
website owner can also check every post their user make before puplishing which is sometimes a good thing cause the website owner has to take responsibility when someones rights get hurt. like when someone harass another rlly bad
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:31
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beholder wrote:
Hamtaria means if they disagree, they have the right to say so to Miranda and discuss other means of handling the situation. I'm not sure how willing she is to discuss it though. When I would try to propose something to Kaj for example, it was his way only.Ā 
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:32
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Koolaid wrote:
Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
Harness wrote:
its their job to do so and its mirandas/kais website
That's a very dangerous way of thinking. Just because someone owns a website does not give them a right to do anything they want. They have our IP addresses, are they allowed to dump them on the world wide web? No.
ure wrong
it is their right to do with their website what they want as long as they dont hurt human rights
and with the ip adresses its smth different, that has to do smth with data privacy and protection
website owner can also check every post their user make before puplishing which is sometimes a good thing cause the website owner has to take responsibility when someones rights get hurt. like when someone harass another rlly bad


You don't understand the point I'm making. Just because they can does not mean it is right to do. Right now, they're just deleting every thread about that Tumblr "fiasco" just because "Miranda asked". I do not believe that is right.
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:33
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Harness wrote:
actually u accept the rules (agbs) of a website when u make an acc etc
u accept their rules and u kinda only have the rights they give u and ur immutable (human) rights

its sweet to be mad about a nipple censorship for example but when the website owner wants it this way u can do nth against it, cause its their right (also a good move from miranda cause they could rlly get in trouble for some thing but thats another topic)
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:33
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Koolaid wrote:
beholder wrote:
Hamtaria means if they disagree, they have the right to say so to Miranda and discuss other means of handling the situation. I'm not sure how willing she is to discuss it though. When I would try to propose something to Kaj for example, it was his way only.Ā 
Yes! I would prefer Miranda creating a thread and talking it out instead of just avoiding the issue.
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:34
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Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
That's a very dangerous way of thinking. Just because someone owns a website does not give them a right to do anything they want. They have our IP addresses, are they allowed to dump them on the world wide web? No.
ure wrong
it is their right to do with their website what they want as long as they dont hurt human rights
and with the ip adresses its smth different, that has to do smth with data privacy and protection
website owner can also check every post their user make before puplishing which is sometimes a good thing cause the website owner has to take responsibility when someones rights get hurt. like when someone harass another rlly bad
You don't understand the point I'm making. Just because they can does not mean it is right to do. Right now, they're just deleting every thread about that Tumblr "fiasco" just because "Miranda asked". I do not believe that is right.
why shouldnt it be "right" to prevent their members from harassement

but the mods dont have the right to make their own decisions about it ok? cause its their job to make sure nothing is against the rulesĀ 
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:35
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Solitude wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
beholder wrote:
Hamtaria means if they disagree, they have the right to say so to Miranda and discuss other means of handling the situation. I'm not sure how willing she is to discuss it though. When I would try to propose something to Kaj for example, it was his way only.Ā 
Yes! I would prefer Miranda creating a thread and talking it out instead of just avoiding the issue.
she said she would but miranda doesnt care about VP so i doubt it will happen anytime soon
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:36
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Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
beholder wrote:
Hamtaria means if they disagree, they have the right to say so to Miranda and discuss other means of handling the situation. I'm not sure how willing she is to discuss it though. When I would try to propose something to Kaj for example, it was his way only.Ā 
Yes! I would prefer Miranda creating a thread and talking it out instead of just avoiding the issue.
theirs no issue about tumblrs where ppl get insulted
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:36
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Koolaid wrote:
I'm not saying it has to be my way, I'm asking Miranda to come forward and accept her responsibilty as a mod/admin (I don't know what her position is exactly anymore) and talk. it. out.
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Date: 22-08-2016 20:36
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ThugWorkout wrote:
I can see why ur mad bc Miranda herself hasn't said anything but at the end of the day the mods are just doing their job bc most of the stuff being said was directly about players on here and would be classed as bullying I'm p sure
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Harness wrote:
HAMARTIA wrote:
I'm not saying it has to be my way, I'm asking Miranda to come forward and accept her responsibilty as a mod/admin (I don't know what her position is exactly anymore) and talk. it. out.
in my opinion she does her job well
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