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Obliviate
Queen of Pop



Obliviate wrote:
Just gonna tag her so she sees it
@Savage 
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Date: 13-04-2017 01:00
Private
National Star



Savage wrote:
Deimos wrote:
Savage wrote:
Deimos wrote:
there was multiple reasons why she was banned. as for the document, it's against the rules. although some might've seen it as a way to share constructive criticism it should've been handled a different way. may mods have gave users the opportunity to message them based on their concerns, yet no one has received a message. this isn't about "feelings getting hurt" this is about trying to stop something that's happen ongoing for months now. it's time to move on.
how is the document against the rules? it's not bullying and it's not non-constructive criticism.  it was only sent to kim and the mods (and the users who created it of course)

what other way could she have handled it? in my opinion it was very professional to get a document together presenting her case and share it with only the people involved.  and what's the "something" that's been ongoing? i don't know why you guys are being so vague. 
yes, it was but it was also handed out to users prior to jess getting the document herself. you're entitled to your opinion, alexis. but honestly, i'm sure jess would've replied to any messages regarding how mods handle situations. especially if kim couldn't be reached. hell, mail the mod you might be having an issue with to have a one on one conversation.
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Date: 13-04-2017 01:01
Callum
World Famous



callum wrote:
Savage wrote:
Deimos wrote:
Savage wrote:
there was multiple reasons why she was banned. as for the document, it's against the rules. although some might've seen it as a way to share constructive criticism it should've been handled a different way. may mods have gave users the opportunity to message them based on their concerns, yet no one has received a message. this isn't about "feelings getting hurt" this is about trying to stop something that's happen ongoing for months now. it's time to move on.
how is the document against the rules? it's not bullying and it's not non-constructive criticism.  it was only sent to kim and the mods (and the users who created it of course)

what other way could she have handled it? in my opinion it was very professional to get a document together presenting her case and share it with only the people involved.  and what's the "something" that's been ongoing? i don't know why you guys are being so vague. 
yes, it was but it was also handed out to users prior to jess getting the document herself. you're entitled to your opinion, alexis. but honestly, i'm sure jess would've replied to any messages regarding how mods handle situations. especially if kim couldn't be reached. hell, mail the mod you might be having an issue with to have a one on one conversation.
why are u so scared about what that document contained
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Posts: 31649
Date: 13-04-2017 01:01
Polaris
Streetmusician



Polaris wrote:
Also, where is Sareureuk in all of this? 
I understand about Chandelier + Hypoxic 
but Sare' hasn't been online since the 4th April ? 
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Posts: 1530
Date: 13-04-2017 01:01
Account deleted




wrote:
Polaris wrote:
Also, where is Sareureuk in all of this? 
I understand about Chandelier + Hypoxic 
but Sare' hasn't been online since the 4th April ? 
Sorry but what does this have to do with anything?
Date: 13-04-2017 01:06
Obliviate
Queen of Pop



Obliviate wrote:
Eslem wrote:
Mods are hypocrites really
When Ali got banned everything people wrote got deleted and the reason was that she couldn't defend herself.

Guess you guys care more about Ali then me. Call it whatever you want but I'm not okay with this, I'm not olay with private convos being show when I can't defend myself. the proof you have are so out of place too. I want everything about me to be removed if I am not allowed to defend myself.
Shouldn't a mod comment on this?

@Tezzica
@legohouse 
@Savage 
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Posts: 4904
Date: 13-04-2017 01:08
Account deleted




wrote:
Savage wrote:
Deimos wrote:
Savage wrote:
there was multiple reasons why she was banned. as for the document, it's against the rules. although some might've seen it as a way to share constructive criticism it should've been handled a different way. may mods have gave users the opportunity to message them based on their concerns, yet no one has received a message. this isn't about "feelings getting hurt" this is about trying to stop something that's happen ongoing for months now. it's time to move on.
how is the document against the rules? it's not bullying and it's not non-constructive criticism.  it was only sent to kim and the mods (and the users who created it of course)

what other way could she have handled it? in my opinion it was very professional to get a document together presenting her case and share it with only the people involved.  and what's the "something" that's been ongoing? i don't know why you guys are being so vague. 
yes, it was but it was also handed out to users prior to jess getting the document herself. you're entitled to your opinion, alexis. but honestly, i'm sure jess would've replied to any messages regarding how mods handle situations. especially if kim couldn't be reached. hell, mail the mod you might be having an issue with to have a one on one conversation.

"handed out to users" it was only given to the users that helped compile the document, and nobody else. all users involved are either banned or quit on their own terms, so i still fail to see where the issue is.
Date: 13-04-2017 01:09
Sevo
Youtube Star



Sevo wrote:
I stopped reading bc i realized that not even 1 mod talked about the document but instead talked about personal problems
no one cares about ur life mary-kate
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Posts: 1375
Date: 13-04-2017 01:09
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wrote:
Wheatley wrote:
Savage wrote:
Deimos wrote:
how is the document against the rules? it's not bullying and it's not non-constructive criticism.  it was only sent to kim and the mods (and the users who created it of course)

what other way could she have handled it? in my opinion it was very professional to get a document together presenting her case and share it with only the people involved.  and what's the "something" that's been ongoing? i don't know why you guys are being so vague. 
yes, it was but it was also handed out to users prior to jess getting the document herself. you're entitled to your opinion, alexis. but honestly, i'm sure jess would've replied to any messages regarding how mods handle situations. especially if kim couldn't be reached. hell, mail the mod you might be having an issue with to have a one on one conversation.

"handed out to users" it was only given to the users that helped compile the document, and nobody else. all users involved are either banned or quit on their own terms, so i still fail to see where the issue is.
This is the same issue that was with the first document before the second document was even made. It was shared and brought to here. There was even a forum made on here to discuss the document along with users who have witnessed it themselves.

@Obliviate The screenshots were removed per request even though the same decency wasn't given to specific moderators. We were asked to bring our side of the situation to everyone. Thus included screenshots to provided "proof" of those discussions because some moderators words have been argued about or taken out of context. 
Date: 13-04-2017 01:15
Muraa
Karaoke Star



Muraa wrote:
Wheatley wrote:
Eslem wrote:
Mods are hypocrites really
When Ali got banned everything people wrote got deleted and the reason was that she couldn't defend herself.

Guess you guys care more about Ali then me. Call it whatever you want but I'm not okay with this, I'm not olay with private convos being show when I can't defend myself. the proof you have are so out of place too. I want everything about me to be removed if I am not allowed to defend myself.
I got way more proxies and accounts I can use and I will continue until everything gets removed
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL ME OUT IN PUBLIC WITHOUT GIVING ME A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF
MIND YOU I AM PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON INCLUDED IN THIS ENTIRE SHIT THAT HAS GIVEN THE MODS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVED BEFORE I WAS SPILLING EVERYTHING. I WAS NEVER GIVEN TBIS CHANCE
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Posts: 2
Date: 13-04-2017 01:20
Sevo
Youtube Star



Sevo wrote:
Muraa wrote:
Wheatley wrote:
Eslem wrote:
Mods are hypocrites really
When Ali got banned everything people wrote got deleted and the reason was that she couldn't defend herself.

Guess you guys care more about Ali then me. Call it whatever you want but I'm not okay with this, I'm not olay with private convos being show when I can't defend myself. the proof you have are so out of place too. I want everything about me to be removed if I am not allowed to defend myself.
I got way more proxies and accounts I can use and I will continue until everything gets removed
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL ME OUT IN PUBLIC WITHOUT GIVING ME A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF
MIND YOU I AM PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON INCLUDED IN THIS ENTIRE SHIT THAT HAS GIVEN THE MODS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVED BEFORE I WAS SPILLING EVERYTHING. I WAS NEVER GIVEN TBIS CHANCE
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Posts: 1375
Date: 13-04-2017 01:23
Obliviate
Queen of Pop



Obliviate wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
Wheatley wrote:
Savage wrote:
yes, it was but it was also handed out to users prior to jess getting the document herself. you're entitled to your opinion, alexis. but honestly, i'm sure jess would've replied to any messages regarding how mods handle situations. especially if kim couldn't be reached. hell, mail the mod you might be having an issue with to have a one on one conversation.

"handed out to users" it was only given to the users that helped compile the document, and nobody else. all users involved are either banned or quit on their own terms, so i still fail to see where the issue is.
This is the same issue that was with the first document before the second document was even made. It was shared and brought to here. There was even a forum made on here to discuss the document along with users who have witnessed it themselves.

@Obliviate The screenshots were removed per request even though the same decency wasn't given to specific moderators. We were asked to bring our side of the situation to everyone. Thus included screenshots to provided "proof" of those discussions because some moderators words have been argued about or taken out of context. 
If this theoretically (idk how it's spelled) was a member and not a mod wouldn't this end up with an warning or smth?
While when a mod does this the text only get changed?
@Tezzica 
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Posts: 4904
Date: 13-04-2017 01:26
Account deleted




wrote:
Obliviate wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
Wheatley wrote:

"handed out to users" it was only given to the users that helped compile the document, and nobody else. all users involved are either banned or quit on their own terms, so i still fail to see where the issue is.
This is the same issue that was with the first document before the second document was even made. It was shared and brought to here. There was even a forum made on here to discuss the document along with users who have witnessed it themselves.

@Obliviate The screenshots were removed per request even though the same decency wasn't given to specific moderators. We were asked to bring our side of the situation to everyone. Thus included screenshots to provided "proof" of those discussions because some moderators words have been argued about or taken out of context. 
If this theoretically (idk how it's spelled) was a member and not a mod wouldn't this end up with an warning or smth?
While when a mod does this the text only get changed?
@Tezzica 
Theoretically, if the member was asked to explain their whole side of the story to people that nag them every day in regards to their behavior and not taking the bigger picture but still get attacked consistently for not providing evidence then it can contradict itself easily for whether the person would receive a warning or timeout or a message in regards to it. 
Date: 13-04-2017 01:33
Account deleted




wrote:
Sevo wrote:
I stopped reading bc i realized that not even 1 mod talked about the document but instead talked about personal problems
no one cares about ur life mary-kate
Date: 13-04-2017 01:38
Account deleted




wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
Wheatley wrote:
Savage wrote:
yes, it was but it was also handed out to users prior to jess getting the document herself. you're entitled to your opinion, alexis. but honestly, i'm sure jess would've replied to any messages regarding how mods handle situations. especially if kim couldn't be reached. hell, mail the mod you might be having an issue with to have a one on one conversation.

"handed out to users" it was only given to the users that helped compile the document, and nobody else. all users involved are either banned or quit on their own terms, so i still fail to see where the issue is.
This is the same issue that was with the first document before the second document was even made. It was shared and brought to here. There was even a forum made on here to discuss the document along with users who have witnessed it themselves.

@Obliviate The screenshots were removed per request even though the same decency wasn't given to specific moderators. We were asked to bring our side of the situation to everyone. Thus included screenshots to provided "proof" of those discussions because some moderators words have been argued about or taken out of context. 
wait so there was a first document and you still ignored the problems????? if the first document was never addressed then why did you not expect there to be a second one

(also if the first document was "shared and brought to here" then how come literally no users other than the ones that contributed to it know what was in it?)
Date: 13-04-2017 01:40 | Times changed: 1
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