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Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:
1. If she had permission why is she trying to defend herself pretending she only talked about logging into that account once which too she later decided against?

Also is it mentioned somewhere in the rules that if you want someone to log into your account you need to ask for permission from before and in that case it will be allowed?

Earlier you said you see a t-o as a way to protect the account from further unauthorised access. Now if Eli gave her password to multiple people by herself then the timeout really wasn't needed?

2. Ah I see, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up!

I'm pretty sure those questions should be targeted to me rather then the mods.
Kim is aware that we live together as a couple. When that certain code was released she was doing a lot of overtime athe work and physically wouldn't of been able to out of hours. She texted me after I had posted that saying she was on break so I got her your do it then rather than me doing it this.
The password itself I don't directly know, she tends to save passwords on her personal laptop. Just like she doesn't know mine (and has no access to mine as I don't save password).

I was defending myself because the accusation sounded like
1: she has access to my account
2: I go on her account. I haven't directly been on her account when she hasn't been with me for at least a year now. This would of been the only occurance.

It was asked to the mods because if it's a rule that you cannot share accounts then they should've given you a warning / t-o but they didn't so I wanted to hear from them why it's like that.

I mentioned before that I'm pretty sure I've seen you say that you had/were going to claim a code on her account (and buy a shop update too if I'm not mistaken) quite a few times before.
Also this screenshot provided by heathens proves that you had been on her account more than that one time

I honestly don't remember that time but if I posted then I must of popped on then, so I apologise. I possibly did then in October if I posted that but have no memory of doing so. The screenshot that he provided would of been from the same incident that he had posted about, not any other time. I'm possibly thinking of some other time.

More than likely they didn't know as it was Kim herself that was aware, and I'd be more than happy to have some kind of punishment for it if need be. (Being that I wouldn't object to some kind of official warning or a TO myself if required)

Krystle
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Krystle wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:
I'm pretty sure those questions should be targeted to me rather then the mods.
Kim is aware that we live together as a couple. When that certain code was released she was doing a lot of overtime athe work and physically wouldn't of been able to out of hours. She texted me after I had posted that saying she was on break so I got her your do it then rather than me doing it this.
The password itself I don't directly know, she tends to save passwords on her personal laptop. Just like she doesn't know mine (and has no access to mine as I don't save password).

I was defending myself because the accusation sounded like
1: she has access to my account
2: I go on her account. I haven't directly been on her account when she hasn't been with me for at least a year now. This would of been the only occurance.

It was asked to the mods because if it's a rule that you cannot share accounts then they should've given you a warning / t-o but they didn't so I wanted to hear from them why it's like that.

I mentioned before that I'm pretty sure I've seen you say that you had/were going to claim a code on her account (and buy a shop update too if I'm not mistaken) quite a few times before.
Also this screenshot provided by heathens proves that you had been on her account more than that one time

I honestly don't remember that time but if I posted then I must of popped on then, so I apologise. I possibly did then in October if I posted that but have no memory of doing so. The screenshot that he provided would of been from the same incident that he had posted about, not any other time.

More than likely they didn't know as it was Kim herself that was aware, and I'd be more than happy to have some kind of punishment for it if need be. (Being that I wouldn't object to some kind of official warning or a TO myself if required)

Yeah that makes sense
You could've forgotten about it but coming back to my question at the mods, why didn't they give you any 'punishment' when you posted that? I'll leave it on them to answer this

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Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:
It was asked to the mods because if it's a rule that you cannot share accounts then they should've given you a warning / t-o but they didn't so I wanted to hear from them why it's like that.

I mentioned before that I'm pretty sure I've seen you say that you had/were going to claim a code on her account (and buy a shop update too if I'm not mistaken) quite a few times before.
Also this screenshot provided by heathens proves that you had been on her account more than that one time

I honestly don't remember that time but if I posted then I must of popped on then, so I apologise. I possibly did then in October if I posted that but have no memory of doing so. The screenshot that he provided would of been from the same incident that he had posted about, not any other time.

More than likely they didn't know as it was Kim herself that was aware, and I'd be more than happy to have some kind of punishment for it if need be. (Being that I wouldn't object to some kind of official warning or a TO myself if required)

Yeah that makes sense
You could've forgotten about it but coming back to my question at the mods, why didn't they give you any 'punishment' when you posted that? I'll leave it on them to answer this

They may of not been aware or keeping eye on the forum as it was just a code forum. Which would also mean that no one had reported my message about me going on her account.
, but due to timezones I don't think any of them are awake (haven't checked online list but some are like 8hrs behind me)

I mean i havent been all gold. I indirectly advertised other sites when I used to get people to click my adoptable eggs etc (but I wasn't saying sign up..so I don't think would count)

But no ill leave it to them. As said I wouldn't object to some kind of punishment if others see fit.

Krystle
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Krystle wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:
I honestly don't remember that time but if I posted then I must of popped on then, so I apologise. I possibly did then in October if I posted that but have no memory of doing so. The screenshot that he provided would of been from the same incident that he had posted about, not any other time.

More than likely they didn't know as it was Kim herself that was aware, and I'd be more than happy to have some kind of punishment for it if need be. (Being that I wouldn't object to some kind of official warning or a TO myself if required)

Yeah that makes sense
You could've forgotten about it but coming back to my question at the mods, why didn't they give you any 'punishment' when you posted that? I'll leave it on them to answer this

They may of not been aware or keeping eye on the forum as it was just a code forum. Which would also mean that no one had reported my message about me going on her account.
, but due to timezones I don't think any of them are awake (haven't checked online list but some are like 8hrs behind me)

I mean i havent been all gold. I indirectly advertised other sites when I used to get people to click my adoptable eggs etc (but I wasn't saying sign up..so I don't think would count)

But no ill leave it to them. As said I wouldn't object to some kind of punishment if others see fit.

They are mods and should have an eye around on what's going on but I understand that they are human too and could've missed it. But for some reason I still have it in my head that I've seen you talk about logging into that account more than once.
I know I personally did not report it because I didn't know it was a rule. Doesn't really make sense to punish someone for logging into an account whose owner has given permission to it but I can see why it's like that too.
Yup vp is usually dead at this time so they can answer whenever they see this, not a problem.

Ofc I understand no one is perfect but this is also one of the things that I would like the mods to address. They brought up things from the past about ceylin and Dani which ruined their chances of being admin while not doing the same for other candidates

Well it doesn't seem to make sense to punish you now for something you did then which was allowed to slip by because the mods didn't notice. It's up to them what they do though

Private
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Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:

Krystle wrote:
Yeah that makes sense
You could've forgotten about it but coming back to my question at the mods, why didn't they give you any 'punishment' when you posted that? I'll leave it on them to answer this

They may of not been aware or keeping eye on the forum as it was just a code forum. Which would also mean that no one had reported my message about me going on her account.
, but due to timezones I don't think any of them are awake (haven't checked online list but some are like 8hrs behind me)

I mean i havent been all gold. I indirectly advertised other sites when I used to get people to click my adoptable eggs etc (but I wasn't saying sign up..so I don't think would count)

But no ill leave it to them. As said I wouldn't object to some kind of punishment if others see fit.

They are mods and should have an eye around on what's going on but I understand that they are human too and could've missed it. But for some reason I still have it in my head that I've seen you talk about logging into that account more than once.
I know I personally did not report it because I didn't know it was a rule. Doesn't really make sense to punish someone for logging into an account whose owner has given permission to it but I can see why it's like that too.
Yup vp is usually dead at this time so they can answer whenever they see this, not a problem.

Ofc I understand no one is perfect but this is also one of the things that I would like the mods to address. They brought up things from the past about ceylin and Dani which ruined their chances of being admin while not doing the same for other candidates

Well it doesn't seem to make sense to punish you now for something you did then which was allowed to slip by because the mods didn't notice. It's up to them what they do though

For moral sake, and to show that even though I am now admin I am not above the rules. Mostly to show to the community that yes I have made mistakes as well, but I am willing to take the punishment. Even if it is later on and to also show that they are willing to also with figures that are meant to be 'superior' to them. (I quotation marks the superior part as they do a damn better job then I could of ever done other the last couple of months, even with all this going on)

That I can't confirm for sure if all that actually happened regarding Dani and Ceylin sadly. As with all teams when the recruite, a forum clean is made with the recruitment forums.

(Reworded first bit as it didn't make sense to me)

Somewhere
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Somewhere wrote:
Hey guys,
I really don't know what I should think about all this! Sure, it's humanly that mistake it happens, but I think, I am sorry if I am the only one who support this statement, we could stop all this and to divine the following future! Be happy, be positive, laugh and be yourself - let together have fun and make VP to a great website!

Private
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Shadowjess wrote:
Just to note, my chat is currently open!

Somewhere
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Somewhere wrote:
And Mods it's not really professional when you are talking about what another users did. I am sure they can send all of you a mail and you can tell them, what they did. It's not fair that you spoken in public what they did and you should know that you have a professional discreation and it's necessary that you nervet forget it, trust me. I have so many expressive, because I worked for many companies as Mod!

Private
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Horcrux wrote:

Krystle wrote:

Hypoxic wrote:
@Krystle
thought I'd reply quickly but when I get a chance to write it out I'll cover your questions better.
In regards to Ali, yes I openly admit to putting friendship first in the moment. Based off of the fiasco that occurred around Legohouse's account (which I think was either one or two days prior). What that defence was based off of was an account linked to Ali's. Which someone on the first page has the screenshot of when Ali claimed to have been hacked. After that however I began to keep a closer eye and then came the second time she was linked to a leaker account which was when I confronted her. (Sabrina also provided proof of another connection on the day I confronted her as I didn't have it screenshotted).

As for Eli, I didn't allow her on the mod account. She came to me telling me that she'd accessed it and felt kinda bad or said something along the lines of "I know I shouldn't of". I said sonwthing like it's okay did you do anything on it? And don't reaccess it. That same day the account details were changed and she wasn't allowed back on. So no one let her use it, she did so behind our backs and then came forward to me about using it. At that point I also let the others know.

(as for your bracketed part I'll hopefully make sense of things when I can type it all out for you all but hope that helps for now)

Which was wrong and shows how you may not be competent for the mod position since you can't look beyond your friendship and judge the situation without being biased.

About eli that's what I read in the document so I don't know who to trust in this matter but it should not have been okay to get into the account when she was not a mod?

If your close friend came to you and said they've just been hacked and you had no reason to suspect them prior of course you aren't going to jump on the ban wagon. Plus; there needed to be a agreed upon decision within the mods to ban her at that time (as I stated in this form to another user) so I myself couldn't just ban her outright. I get that it was "bias" in that moment however and i apologise for that. However from that moment on she was kept under close watch and hence why she was caught. I'd also like to point out that if I held such a strong bias I wouldn't of confronted her about the matter when we had the screenshotted evidence of it being her. I'd of left that to someone else.

Obviously it wasn't okay, but if you know Eli you'd know that telling her off straight away gets you nowhere. Hence why I wanted to approach it in the sense of making sure she didn't actually use the account to do anything she shouldn't have. In saying "it's okay just don't do that again & did you do anything" is trying to keep the situation calm. Perhaps a bad choice in words however she was denied access almost 5 minutes after she told me (or however long it took me to change the email and password and what not). Later on (not sure how long the timespan was) she asks for us if she could use the account again for something ET related which I'm fairly sure Chandelier responded to her saying something along the lines of "No but I can help out with whatever it is you need". (I'm fairly sure it was one of those board game type activities that requires comments getting deleted after use. But not entirely sure).

Obliviate
Queen of Pop

Obliviate wrote:

Chandelier wrote:

Obliviate wrote:
elier , I would like to see your side of this.

I have already said that I wrote this offline and was under the impression the documents were going to all be there. So I did not block out the names, since I didn't see the need if her document was going to be placed in the post too.

It's not that we didn't notice anything. We've seen it time and time again, but it's a double edged sword to respond to it. Some people get upset when we don't respond, and then when we do respond, there are those that say we are being unprofessional by engaging with people in the forums about the drama. One of the things I was told when I was first added to the team is that we are not to take the bait when these threads are made but lock the threads and request the OP message us to discuss it further if they'd like. It's this: if I had a problem with something you did, would you rather me message you first to talk about it or post a thread calling you out for it? That's usually what happens, things are presented in a thread first and no message is given. I hope I'm understanding your question correctly, if not can you ask it in another way?

I rather meant the bias between mods. As of this example you called out Ceylin with name and links and everything in you're post. And if it were to be a regular member this person would probably have gotten a warning or something for calling someone out. While in this case Ceylins name and some links were only to be erased in the text, nothing else happened and in my perspective a rule got broken but nothing was really done. I kind of get the feeling like mods are above the rules.
What are your thoughts about it?
(It's might be a little blurry since I'm tired)
@Obliviate
Again, I wrote this thinking their documents would be posted where my username was called out and screens to my conversations were provided as well. I was told to share my side of story and have everything out in the open. This wasn't my personal decision to have a thread here and I would not have made one otherwise unless I was requested/given permission to do so.

So if they called you out, it was okay to call them out?
This could have been avoided though, if you were to write X or something and blur your links, because how I see it you broke a rule which could have been avoided. I wish to see if mods also breaks a rule they get a punishment.
Because I don't know how I should feel confortable if let's say as an example that I call someone out in a thread and you give me a warning, should that be right? If you made the same thing but didn't get a punishment that sound bias to me.

Private
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Claire wrote:
Bump because An older thread was bumped and this is the more recent

Obliviate
Queen of Pop

Obliviate wrote:
1, The thread is supposed to close tomorrow and so far only 3 mods have written their part of the story out of 8?
Wasn't it supposed to be views from all of the mods?

2, Sareureuk has been offline for 10 days, is there a real reason to it or?
Also, I barely knew she's mods since I never see her online.

Chloroform
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Chloroform wrote:

Obliviate wrote:
1, The thread is supposed to close tomorrow and so far only 3 mods have written their part of the story out of 8?
Wasn't it supposed to be views of all of the mods

2, Sareureuk has been offline for 10 days, is there a real reason to it or?
Also, I barely knew she's mods since I never see her online.

Photosynthesis posting from her male account (because I want the auction sets).
Some of the mods (ie new mods) were not involved in this situation. I personally don't have much to say about my part. If there is anything else anyone would like to ask me, please feel free!

Obliviate
Queen of Pop

Obliviate wrote:

Chloroform wrote:

Obliviate wrote:
1, The thread is supposed to close tomorrow and so far only 3 mods have written their part of the story out of 8?
Wasn't it supposed to be views of all of the mods

2, Sareureuk has been offline for 10 days, is there a real reason to it or?
Also, I barely knew she's mods since I never see her online.

Photosynthesis posting from her male account (because I want the auction sets).
Some of the mods (ie new mods) were not involved in this situation. I personally don't have much to say about my part. If there is anything else anyone would like to ask me, please feel free!

Ah okay, I just expected more.
But what about sareureuk?
Until today she has been offline for 10 days.
Does she have a legit reason to be away or not, since a mod should be active?
I think I barely has seen her online since she became a mod

Sinister
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sinister wrote:
alright but when is solitude getting unbanned