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Poll: Do you think it's okay for VP to earn money off of someone else's art work?
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Is this okay to do?
SMALLS
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SMALLS wrote:
i dont think its a problem tbh, its not an knock off item you are paying money for to wear in real life its just virtual
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Posts: 1377
Date: 01-03-2017 20:20
Ad0xa
World Famous



ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
it's still bad since it contributes to further fetishazation of irl gay men. especially young gay men.
Well yeah but I don't think you mean that yaoi should be gone altogether tho? 
if it could? that would be lovely, so we could start over with actual good representation in gay media. i think i have read one maybe two, that didn't include harmful tropes in the plot or the lack of plot, since it's pretty much all abt sex.
I think there's a place for smut too. But it needs ot be smart smut? Or smut that at least explains why this isn't healthy XD 
Like I say'd... it's like the thing with 50shades. 
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Posts: 14827
Date: 01-03-2017 20:21
Gothgirl
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gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
Well yeah but I don't think you mean that yaoi should be gone altogether tho? 
if it could? that would be lovely, so we could start over with actual good representation in gay media. i think i have read one maybe two, that didn't include harmful tropes in the plot or the lack of plot, since it's pretty much all abt sex.
I think there's a place for smut too. But it needs ot be smart smut? Or smut that at least explains why this isn't healthy XD 
Like I say'd... it's like the thing with 50shades. 
it's not
u can't compare this to 50 shades no matter how hard u try.
this is abt gay people getting objectified and sexualised for straight people's pleasure. 
the other thing is for bored straight women who has bad sex and don't know what bdsm really is.
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Posts: 13147
Date: 01-03-2017 20:23
Private
Queen of Queens



Adore wrote:
Of course it's not okay, why would someone think it is ugh.
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Date: 01-03-2017 20:23
Ad0xa
World Famous



ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
if it could? that would be lovely, so we could start over with actual good representation in gay media. i think i have read one maybe two, that didn't include harmful tropes in the plot or the lack of plot, since it's pretty much all abt sex.
I think there's a place for smut too. But it needs ot be smart smut? Or smut that at least explains why this isn't healthy XD 
Like I say'd... it's like the thing with 50shades. 
it's not
u can't compare this to 50 shades no matter how hard u try.
this is abt gay people getting objectified and sexualised for straight people's pleasure. 
the other thing is for bored straight women who has bad sex and don't know what bdsm really is.
So the bdsm community isn't as valid community as gay community? Good to know...  
Bdsm done badly is actually harmful for people too. Both physically and psychological. Yeah sure they don't have the *struggle* gay ppl have. But it's still smut that does bad things? And it's still something that could be really good.
50shades made bored housewifes buy lots of sextoys and that's good. But it also makes bored housewifes that's in a bad relationship glorify that fact and think it's okay. 
....so yeah I think it's more similar than you wanna make it. Things are not black and white dude. Smut has it's place and is something humans need. But it has to be smut that doesn't press on harmful things ofc. 

I don't think a good world would be where only super serious gay drama was a thing and no silly smut about gay ppl was okay. 
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Posts: 14827
Date: 01-03-2017 20:29
Solitude
National Star



Solitude wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
I think there's a place for smut too. But it needs ot be smart smut? Or smut that at least explains why this isn't healthy XD 
Like I say'd... it's like the thing with 50shades. 
it's not
u can't compare this to 50 shades no matter how hard u try.
this is abt gay people getting objectified and sexualised for straight people's pleasure. 
the other thing is for bored straight women who has bad sex and don't know what bdsm really is.
So the bdsm community isn't as valid community as gay community? Good to know...  
Bdsm done badly is actually harmful for people too. Both physically and psychological. Yeah sure they don't have the *struggle* gay ppl have. But it's still smut that does bad things? And it's still something that could be really good.
50shades made bored housewifes buy lots of sextoys and that's good. But it also makes bored housewifes that's in a bad relationship glorify that fact and think it's okay. 
....so yeah I think it's more similar than you wanna make it. Things are not black and white dude. Smut has it's place and is something humans need. But it has to be smut that doesn't press on harmful things ofc. 

I don't think a good world would be where only super serious gay drama was a thing and no silly smut about gay ppl was okay. 
but what gothgirl is talking about isnt silly smut tho ?
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Posts: 18682
Date: 01-03-2017 20:30
Gothgirl
International Star



gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
I think there's a place for smut too. But it needs ot be smart smut? Or smut that at least explains why this isn't healthy XD 
Like I say'd... it's like the thing with 50shades. 
it's not
u can't compare this to 50 shades no matter how hard u try.
this is abt gay people getting objectified and sexualised for straight people's pleasure. 
the other thing is for bored straight women who has bad sex and don't know what bdsm really is.
So the bdsm community isn't as valid community as gay community? Good to know...  
Bdsm done badly is actually harmful for people too. Both physically and psychological. Yeah sure they don't have the *struggle* gay ppl have. But it's still smut that does bad things? And it's still something that could be really good.
50shades made bored housewifes buy lots of sextoys and that's good. But it also makes bored housewifes that's in a bad relationship glorify that fact and think it's okay. 
....so yeah I think it's more similar than you wanna make it. Things are not black and white dude. Smut has it's place and is something humans need. But it has to be smut that doesn't press on harmful things ofc. 

I don't think a good world would be where only super serious gay drama was a thing and no silly smut about gay ppl was okay. 
that's not what i'm saying at all
but u can't compare a "straight relationship for straight people" to "gay men written by straight girls for straight girls" at all. 
and really u sound ignorant abt this, when u think that the struggles of gay people can be compared to straight people. 
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Posts: 13147
Date: 01-03-2017 20:33
Ad0xa
World Famous



ad0xa wrote:
Solitude wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
it's not
u can't compare this to 50 shades no matter how hard u try.
this is abt gay people getting objectified and sexualised for straight people's pleasure. 
the other thing is for bored straight women who has bad sex and don't know what bdsm really is.
So the bdsm community isn't as valid community as gay community? Good to know...  
Bdsm done badly is actually harmful for people too. Both physically and psychological. Yeah sure they don't have the *struggle* gay ppl have. But it's still smut that does bad things? And it's still something that could be really good.
50shades made bored housewifes buy lots of sextoys and that's good. But it also makes bored housewifes that's in a bad relationship glorify that fact and think it's okay. 
....so yeah I think it's more similar than you wanna make it. Things are not black and white dude. Smut has it's place and is something humans need. But it has to be smut that doesn't press on harmful things ofc. 

I don't think a good world would be where only super serious gay drama was a thing and no silly smut about gay ppl was okay. 
but what gothgirl is talking about isnt silly smut tho ?
I say smut and they said "no it's still harmfull!!!!!"" 
I say "so it's like 50shades" ? Doing the comparison that it's  smut gone wrong. And they said "NOOOO IT''S NOT THE SAME"!!" But that's what I'm talking about? I don't know what the hell they're talking about but that's what I'm talking about. 

smut 
Yummy erotic fiction or art.

Smut 
A writting style that is sexually explicit and generally associated with females. 

Basically porn aimed towards women. 

The difference between porn and smut: 

Porn: Usually has very little plot line and is extremely sexually explicit. Mostly watched or 'read' for the pictures. Aimed towards men. 

Smut: Highly developed stories with love lines and other things that appeal to women that also include alot of sexually explicit scenes. Can be in comic form, or in written form (as in romance books)

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(And since we're intellectual individuals I don't think "aimed toward women" has to be a thing. Since there's many more sexualitys than straight. And Men can like smut as much as women. ) 
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Posts: 14827
Date: 01-03-2017 20:35
Botany
National Star



Botany wrote:
If they directly took it from a picture of the shirt and pasted it in then whoever made the original can take VP to court for copyright infringement. 
However if the item was made from scratch with inspiration from something in real life like a shirt, nothin can legally be done.

That's how Zara can steal from independent artists and get away with it. They make slight changes and it's 100% legal.
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Date: 01-03-2017 20:35 | Times changed: 1
Private
International Star



beauyidul wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
If it's a company that made the image, say like, Disney, McDonalds,  I'd say it would be okay. 
If it's a unknown artist, or a lesser known artist:>>> It's not okay. <<<
We have that same thing with the mermaid dress by rat. she apologized for it so don't hunt her down. But Vp should actually remove it or re-place it with something else tbh. 

There's a lot of more items like that I think. 
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Posts: 12060
Date: 01-03-2017 20:37
Ad0xa
World Famous



ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
it's not
u can't compare this to 50 shades no matter how hard u try.
this is abt gay people getting objectified and sexualised for straight people's pleasure. 
the other thing is for bored straight women who has bad sex and don't know what bdsm really is.
So the bdsm community isn't as valid community as gay community? Good to know...  
Bdsm done badly is actually harmful for people too. Both physically and psychological. Yeah sure they don't have the *struggle* gay ppl have. But it's still smut that does bad things? And it's still something that could be really good.
50shades made bored housewifes buy lots of sextoys and that's good. But it also makes bored housewifes that's in a bad relationship glorify that fact and think it's okay. 
....so yeah I think it's more similar than you wanna make it. Things are not black and white dude. Smut has it's place and is something humans need. But it has to be smut that doesn't press on harmful things ofc. 

I don't think a good world would be where only super serious gay drama was a thing and no silly smut about gay ppl was okay. 
that's not what i'm saying at all
but u can't compare a "straight relationship for straight people" to "gay men written by straight girls for straight girls" at all. 
and really u sound ignorant abt this, when u think that the struggles of gay people can be compared to straight people. 
You don't have to try to put me down saying things like I'm ignorant XD if that's what you think please explain things to me in a better way then? And don't throw rude words around. Maybe I am, but telling a person they're ignorant doesn't ever make them less ignorant or make them happy to hear your opinion. I'm telling you this as a reference for the future if you want people to understand what you mean and want to spread your opinions, rather than bully people into being quiet. 

I say bdsm community (and bdsm isn't even only for straight people?)  and I also said they didn't have as much struggles as the gay community so I did actually acknowledge that it wasn't the same on that point. But that it was the same in the point of it being smut. 
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Posts: 14827
Date: 01-03-2017 20:38
Solitude
National Star



Solitude wrote:
so umh
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Posts: 18682
Date: 01-03-2017 20:38
Private
International Star



Plaster wrote:
was this item a copy past n rescaled?
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Posts: 4725
Date: 01-03-2017 20:39
Gothgirl
International Star



gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
gothgirl wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
So the bdsm community isn't as valid community as gay community? Good to know...  
Bdsm done badly is actually harmful for people too. Both physically and psychological. Yeah sure they don't have the *struggle* gay ppl have. But it's still smut that does bad things? And it's still something that could be really good.
50shades made bored housewifes buy lots of sextoys and that's good. But it also makes bored housewifes that's in a bad relationship glorify that fact and think it's okay. 
....so yeah I think it's more similar than you wanna make it. Things are not black and white dude. Smut has it's place and is something humans need. But it has to be smut that doesn't press on harmful things ofc. 

I don't think a good world would be where only super serious gay drama was a thing and no silly smut about gay ppl was okay. 
that's not what i'm saying at all
but u can't compare a "straight relationship for straight people" to "gay men written by straight girls for straight girls" at all. 
and really u sound ignorant abt this, when u think that the struggles of gay people can be compared to straight people. 
You don't have to try to put me down saying things like I'm ignorant XD if that's what you think please explain things to me in a better way then? And don't throw rude words around. Maybe I am, but telling a person they're ignorant doesn't ever make them less ignorant or make them happy to hear your opinion. I'm telling you this as a reference for the future if you want people to understand what you mean and want to spread your opinions, rather than bully people into being quiet. 

I say bdsm community (and bdsm isn't even only for straight people?)  and I also said they didn't have as much struggles as the gay community so I did actually acknowledge that it wasn't the same on that point. But that it was the same in the point of it being smut. 
it was never abt bdsm, why exactly do u believe this?
it was abt how harmful yaoi and yuri is too actual real life people. 

and how it affects gay people negatively, and yet straight girls are glorifying it and not seeing the problem.


like read my posts for once.
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Posts: 13147
Date: 01-03-2017 20:40
Botany
National Star



Botany wrote:
Plaster wrote:
was this item a copy past n rescaled?
I'm curious as well, copy and paste is the only possible copyright infringement where VP can be taken to court.
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Date: 01-03-2017 20:41
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