Old/Rare Items / Rereleasing? - Forum

LucyTheLunatic
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LucyTheLunatic wrote:

Photosynthesis wrote:
I'd like to see this happen with the items that have like 1-5 in game, where chances are most of the owners are inactive so you have literally no way of obtaining them. There are a few items I doubt I'll be able to buy, no matter how much I pay.

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Lycanthus
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Lycanthus wrote:

>But if I pay 4000cr for skin just for it to be released in the shops for 1000pd, then yeah, I'm gonna be a little pissed off that my collection item is now worthless, I'd say it's unfair.

whoa, no. that's not what i was saying. i'm saying that the price of the item, in cr, should reflect its value if it were to be rereleased. perhaps not as a shop item, but maybe in some other way?

but, i don't have the collector's mindset. i only pay for things i plan to use or sell. so idk, i understand your logic, i just don't really see the appeal. but that's just me, i'm not saying you're wrong.

re: unfairness
well, do you think it's unfair that other users can't get those items just because they didn't know about the site until later? i mean, my problem with the "unfairness" argument is that what's fair/not fair is subjective and can change depending on which side of the fence you're on. i need something a little more concrete than that.

i could have just opened this thread up with something like "it's so unfair that i can't get these items because there's so few of them!!" but i didn't think that had any real weight.

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DreDheZza wrote:

Eli wrote:

Lycanthus wrote:

wait, okay, so just to be clear... we're both on the same page that IF items were to be re-released, they would be at the same or higher price than before.

> I don't really think it's fair to bring them back when we forked over the money to get them.
i mean, i'm not saying they'll be free. i'm saying that people would be able to also fork over their money in exchange for items.

but according to the rest of your post, i guess that doesn't really matter to you. i mean, i don't understand and i don't agree, but you have a valid opinion. i respect that.

I think we're just no on the page because you're talking about people selling these items for way to high of prices that just aren't attainable for most people to get, so bringing the items back will deflate the price and make items easier to get in the future.

My point was that some people don't care about the price of the item. A lot of people don't actually. It's a pain in the ass when you're paying 4000cr for a skin. *cough* but it makes it worth it when the item is exclusive. It's few in the game. It's collectors piece now for the game. You earned it by that point and you shouldn't have to be worried about it's value decreasing because, oh look, there's a re-release in the shops.

The unfair argument isn't invalid, it's it juvenile? Yeah, but this is a dress up game. But if I pay 4000cr for skin just for it to be released in the shops for 1000pd, then yeah, I'm gonna be a little pissed off that my collection item is now worthless, I'd say it's unfair.

Amen sister

Lycanthus
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Lycanthus wrote:
bumpsss

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DadooDattoo wrote:
Some of the prices are just ridiculously high, especially if those pricy items used to be some random pieces sold in the store -- of course all competition prizes etc. should stay rare, but code prizes? Basic clothes sold in the shop? They could come back into the circulation somehow.

Maybe some of them could be competition prizes? Like: "Lookie lookie, kids, if you want this super rare outfit you better work for it!"
Or as some really limited time/amount thing, like the items could sit in the shop for 12x15min in one day (12x only because of the time zones, so that people could have a chance to grab them, did they live in the US or in Russia.)

Lycanthus
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Lycanthus wrote:

DadooDattoo wrote:
Some of the prices are just ridiculously high, especially if those pricy items used to be some random pieces sold in the store -- of course all competition prizes etc. should stay rare, but code prizes? Basic clothes sold in the shop? They could come back into the circulation somehow.

Maybe some of them could be competition prizes? Like: "Lookie lookie, kids, if you want this super rare outfit you better work for it!"
Or as some really limited time/amount thing, like the items could sit in the shop for 12x15min in one day (12x only because of the time zones, so that people could have a chance to grab them, did they live in the US or in Russia.)

ooh, these are good ideas! i'll add them to the first post!
i like the limited time/amount thing, i actually forgot about that completely. this way, it's much easier to regulate supply/demand.

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DadooDattoo wrote:

Lycanthus wrote:

DadooDattoo wrote:
Some of the prices are just ridiculously high, especially if those pricy items used to be some random pieces sold in the store -- of course all competition prizes etc. should stay rare, but code prizes? Basic clothes sold in the shop? They could come back into the circulation somehow.

Maybe some of them could be competition prizes? Like: "Lookie lookie, kids, if you want this super rare outfit you better work for it!"
Or as some really limited time/amount thing, like the items could sit in the shop for 12x15min in one day (12x only because of the time zones, so that people could have a chance to grab them, did they live in the US or in Russia.)

ooh, these are good ideas! i'll add them to the first post!
i like the limited time/amount thing, i actually forgot about that completely. this way, it's much easier to regulate supply/demand.

Glad you liked them :'D

And yeah, that's p much what I thought too.

Soeljo
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Soeljo wrote:
I dont like the idea, think it is really unfair to those who have the items.
And i think it is good that there are items which are very low ig, not everyone can own everything.

I think it is fine if it is only items (very low ig) that are owned be very inactive users. And if they ever become online again and their items have lost value because of this, them give them a credit bonus or something.

Lycanthus
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Lycanthus wrote:

Soeljo wrote:
I dont like the idea, think it is really unfair to those who have the items.
And i think it is good that there are items which are very low ig, not everyone can own everything.

is it not unfair to those who join later that they might have to pay ridiculous prices for items that used to be free giveaways?

Soeljo
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Soeljo wrote:

Lycanthus wrote:

Soeljo wrote:
I dont like the idea, think it is really unfair to those who have the items.
And i think it is good that there are items which are very low ig, not everyone can own everything.

is it not unfair to those who join later that they might have to pay ridiculous prices for items that used to be free giveaways?

No i dont think so.

Lycanthus
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Lycanthus wrote:

Soeljo wrote:

Lycanthus wrote:

Soeljo wrote:
I dont like the idea, think it is really unfair to those who have the items.
And i think it is good that there are items which are very low ig, not everyone can own everything.

is it not unfair to those who join later that they might have to pay ridiculous prices for items that used to be free giveaways?

No i dont think so.

no, it's not unfair? or no, it is fair?

here's an example to be more specific.

this was a free giveaway item last month, yet there are only 11 total in the game. do you believe it would be fair for someone to charge credits for it? selling it to a user who joined only a couple weeks too late?

Soeljo
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Soeljo wrote:

Lycanthus wrote:

Soeljo wrote:

Lycanthus wrote:

is it not unfair to those who join later that they might have to pay ridiculous prices for items that used to be free giveaways?

No i dont think so.

no, it's not unfair? or no, it is fair?

here's an example to be more specific.

this was a free giveaway item last month, yet there are only 11 total in the game. do you believe it would be fair for someone to charge credits for it? selling it to a user who joined only a couple weeks too late?

I think it is fair.
Isn't it the same thing as saying LE codes isn't fair? If one just logged in some hours before they could have gotten the items for free. And i dont see the problem in LE codes either.

I think that low ig items and the fact that we can collect items is one of the fun parts about this site. Not being able to get everything is perfect, one should be able to do that.

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I don't see it as being necessary.

Rot1
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Rot1 wrote:
Stopped reading when you tried to use a hyperinflated shit hole like gaia as a positive example. But at least gaia has a shot at being online in ten years. That should be long enough for Kaj to realize he has no idea what he's doing, right?
Theoretically i might support it. There are items on my wishlist with 2 in the game; I've had the designer tell me straight up I can't get them. I have items of which there are 4 in the game and I own 2 of them, yet I've never gotten an offer higher than like 40cr while female items go for literally thousands.
Ultimately, administration is a mixture of unwilling and unable to invest the necessary resources and quality control needed for a site like this to last. Don't waste your energy on something that won't utilize your enthusiasm.

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Velocity wrote:
You say a valid argument , and despite loosing money on items would be an annoyance , I think this is a good idea.