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Joob
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joob wrote:
if you dont have time for something you should just leave.. the desire to hang on is just having a bad affect on the user base & as someone in a team that the admins are heavily included in having to wait over 24 hours for a simple response isnt gonna cut it.. the constant apologises with no change just isnt good enough like whydie said we deserve admins who have the time to spend on here..

Private
Princess of Pop

whydoiexist wrote:
Would appreciate some sort of response instead of us being ignored

Joob
National star

joob wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:
Would appreciate some sort of response instead of us being ignored

Klavier
Minister of Pop

Klavier wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:
Sets not being set in time for months and the overall lack of communication isn't just a " I have been a little sloppy with my Admin duties lately" situation, it's a persistent problem. I've said that before and I'll say that again - if you are unable to keep up with your duties, at least get another admin or some sort of a helper.

I feel for both of your situations, truly, but that is not an excuse for not fulfilling your duties or doing that very poorly. And please don't take this personally but if you are able to tell you cannot keep up, maybe consider resigning from the position. The other admin has been gone for 3 months now too and it doesn't seem like she's coming back any time soon and while I feel bad about her situation, that position could be better filled with someone with time and ability to do admin work.

We need admins who are able to actually spend time and energy on the site, and while you may want to do that, being able to acknowledge your inability to do so and let someone else take over would be a responsible thing to do.

i'm gonna have to agree with this. i haven't been in dt since february (or even longer if we're thinking more actively) so i haven't seen much of the current situation up close, but we can't have this happening...
i can compare it to a previous admins situation where we had two admins who did not fulfill their duties and weren't able to take responsibility when their lack of action and communication caused problems for the entire site. it was stressful and demoralizing for the designers to have to deal with it constantly, only to then feel completely unheard and disregarded in the aftermath.

something needs to be done to prevent these issues as the core of the site is within the clothing management, and not having things set in time paints vp in a very bad light. it's frustrating for active users, frustrating for the designers who are trying their best to keep things afloat (but who still ultimately need admins to do their work), and it's a bad look to show to new users.
it isn't personal. the fact is just that if the current admins aren't able to fulfill their duties (which is understandable as this is volunteer work), then something needs to be done. i'm pointing at the part i bolded in whydies post ☝️

Private
World famous

toraix wrote:

Elisia wrote:

toraix wrote:
love to see it! i already got my first warning (in a long while) so ik things are getting better /lh /j

YOU GOT A WARNING????

rules are there to be broken................. i have 3 warnings in total

edit: /lh /jokes but i do actually have that many

Private
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toraix wrote:
I do get peoples frustrations over admins not getting a helper over the time abby has been less active, but someone has to actually do an decent amount of work for an another one to get into that position IF its done well/gen

so thats why im not that suprised over this situation since tess has been doing a lot to cover for everything and i would love to see people be more grateful about that

/lh

Elisia
International star

Elisia wrote:

toraix wrote:
I do get peoples frustrations over admins not getting a helper over the time abby has been less active, but someone has to actually do an decent amount of work for an another one to get into that position IF its done well/gen

so thats why im not that suprised over this situation since tess has been doing a lot to cover for everything and i would love to see people be more grateful about that

/lh

!!!!

Joob
National star

joob wrote:

toraix wrote:
I do get peoples frustrations over admins not getting a helper over the time abby has been less active, but someone has to actually do an decent amount of work for an another one to get into that position IF its done well/gen

so thats why im not that suprised over this situation since tess has been doing a lot to cover for everything and i would love to see people be more grateful about that

/lh

why should people be grateful for the bare minimum? if ur gonna become an admin u should expect to know what ur doing i feel like people are forgetting we had 1 admins for so long so who did all of this.. why with 2 admins are they struggling to do that.. if neither of the admins have time to do very basic things then they shouldnt be admins..

Private
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coco wrote:
guys im unemployed for the next 3 months u should scout me

Private
Princess of Pop

whydoiexist wrote:

toraix wrote:
I do get peoples frustrations over admins not getting a helper over the time abby has been less active, but someone has to actually do an decent amount of work for an another one to get into that position IF its done well/gen

so thats why im not that suprised over this situation since tess has been doing a lot to cover for everything and i would love to see people be more grateful about that

/lh

Respectfully, unless you have experienced first hand what it's like to be in a team where admins responding is a big part of it, you would not understand the frustration.

It's not about them not getting a helper because Abby is gone (again, gone, not less active), it's about them constantly not setting sets in time for MONTHS and us being constantly ignored. If you need an actual recent example, our montly auctions were not set twice in a row now and both times it took way over 24 hours to even acknowledge us asking about it. Our concerns are either not acknowledged or ignored too. Also, there were mistakes with what sets are used for MCM, which is really important, because of the lack of communication.

Do not ask us to be grateful for bare minimum. That's just demeaning towards designers and people working towards keeping this site alive and working. You know you're gonna have to take a lot of responsibility while applying for an admin, you need to be able to fulfill your duties. We had 1 admin doing all the work alone before, this isn't a job that requires 2 people, so how come even 2 admins are struggling to do their job?

Private
World famous

toraix wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:

toraix wrote:
I do get peoples frustrations over admins not getting a helper over the time abby has been less active, but someone has to actually do an decent amount of work for an another one to get into that position IF its done well/gen

so thats why im not that suprised over this situation since tess has been doing a lot to cover for everything and i would love to see people be more grateful about that

/lh

Respectfully, unless you have experienced first hand what it's like to be in a team where admins responding is a big part of it, you would not understand the frustration.

It's not about them not getting a helper because Abby is gone (again, gone, not less active), it's about them constantly not setting sets in time for MONTHS and us being constantly ignored. If you need an actual recent example, our montly auctions were not set twice in a row now and both times it took way over 24 hours to even acknowledge us asking about it. Our concerns are either not acknowledged or ignored too. Also, there were mistakes with what sets are used for MCM, which is really important, because of the lack of communication.

Do not ask us to be grateful for bare minimum. That's just demeaning towards designers and people working towards keeping this site alive and working. You know you're gonna have to take a lot of responsibility while applying for an admin, you need to be able to fulfill your duties. We had 1 admin doing all the work alone before, this isn't a job that requires 2 people, so how come even 2 admins are struggling to do their job?

I have infact been in that type of team because the admins' project to fix up SMT, and I've worked very closely with them.

Just wanted to say that its not the bare minimum if one person is doing a two person job, and unless you know the two admins personally, you dont know their situations or lives they live. Just because the job was done badly before, in a smaller scale and with smaller stakes (since no one really expected change back then), i wouldnt start being mean and blaming. This isnt constructive in any way, if you have genuine complaints, you would reach out to them personally and take this situation with them. /gen

This conversation feels hostile, so i will not answer further today, because i just wanted to share my take on this.

Talent
World famous

talent wrote:
also mind you nobody has been accusing them of doing nothing. several people have acknowledged their possibly busy lives intervening with their duties and also the drive to want to do something… but the issue is we constantly have scenarios where things arent happening. none of this is a personal attack against either abby or tess, it is a plea for more support to keep this site running and active by someone who has the time to help keep it running. we had one admin, clavicle, who had the time and wasnt perfect but was great at communicating when things werent going smoothly and when she ran out of time to help the site, she stepped down. why is the scenario different now?

Talent
World famous

talent wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:
Sets not being set in time for months and the overall lack of communication isn't just a " I have been a little sloppy with my Admin duties lately" situation, it's a persistent problem. I've said that before and I'll say that again - if you are unable to keep up with your duties, at least get another admin or some sort of a helper.

I feel for both of your situations, truly, but that is not an excuse for not fulfilling your duties or doing that very poorly. And please don't take this personally but if you are able to tell you cannot keep up, maybe consider resigning from the position. The other admin has been gone for 3 months now too and it doesn't seem like she's coming back any time soon and while I feel bad about her situation, that position could be better filled with someone with time and ability to do admin work.

We need admins who are able to actually spend time and energy on the site, and while you may want to do that, being able to acknowledge your inability to do so and let someone else take over would be a responsible thing to do.

is this whydie being mean ? just wondering where you think people are being mean

Talent
World famous

talent wrote:
you are completely ignoring the fact that there is a full respectful acknowledgement of the reason things havent been running smoothly is because theyre busy. but we need people who arent so busy to help keep this site afloat…………..

Private
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coco wrote:
are we having an impeachment rn