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Eis wrote:
legohouse wrote:
Hennastii wrote:
we're definitely not justifying the actions
i'm just saying that we discuss about the matter before doing anything final
And there's steps that need to be taken to receive a ban 
and that comment isn't enough? 
i just feel that i'm being shut down by people telling me it's a "discussion matter"
I'm pretty sure that what they meant by steps is that they don't have the ability to perma ban someone  unless they've had a certain amount of T/Os.
Don't take my word as 100% truth obv.
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also, let me give you a hypothetical scenario (to the mods): person a writes a triggering thread, meant for the dedicated forum section (if that is the final solution). it is, however, in the general section - a section that most people use for different matters. i know it depends on context, but how long will it take for you to react on the thread ? will person a get a warning ? will there be certain rules applied to the dedicated forum section and the usage of it ? or will the thread just be moved with no further warning ?


this is a hypothetical scenario that could very well happen
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do you guys have moderator guideliens or do you just discuss shit? 

i have a twelve page document that i wrote that tells my mods exactly how to respond to every situation. there should be no discussions necessary- there should be a clear policy laid out that you don't deviate from. 
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Claire wrote:
legohouse wrote:
Hennastii wrote:
we're definitely not justifying the actions
i'm just saying that we discuss about the matter before doing anything final
And there's steps that need to be taken to receive a ban 
on my subreddit that i am the head moderator of- we have a zero toelrance policy for violence. if someone makes a violent threat- that's it. you're gone. end of story. skip the warnings. skip the steps. get rid of the person who has made a violent threat. it literally makes no sense to me that you guys sit around discussing this shit  like it's not obvious what you need to do to protect your community. 
you have to notice that there are also other servers and admins and mods on them and the rules have to be the same on every server

we can't just go and change them in a second
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there should be no 'what do we do if someone says to kys to someone???? what do we do???' it should be IN WRITING what to fucking do.
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Hennastii wrote:
Claire wrote:
legohouse wrote:
And there's steps that need to be taken to receive a ban 
on my subreddit that i am the head moderator of- we have a zero toelrance policy for violence. if someone makes a violent threat- that's it. you're gone. end of story. skip the warnings. skip the steps. get rid of the person who has made a violent threat. it literally makes no sense to me that you guys sit around discussing this shit  like it's not obvious what you need to do to protect your community. 
you have to notice that there are also other servers and admins and mods on them and the rules have to be the same on every server

we can't just go and change them in a second

so the other servers also would tolerate a KYS comment. how is that better? how is that a good excuse ffor this? are you serious right now?
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Chlorine wrote:
telling someone to kys isn't a mistake- it's deliberately cruel and obscene.

At schools, if people write or say that to another student, do you know what happens in most cases ? (at least in the part of norway I live in)

They hire a security guard to be at the school, to protect the victim(s) from the person(s) who did that.

So for the mods to say they take it seriously, and it happens WHILE a mod is online (will not mention who), and it gets reported and it still stays up for HOURS is so shit work imo

Instead of saying "we are working hard, if it isn't anything else I will go back to do my work now" yhe mods should say they are sorry for not doing their work right this time. 
sick of bad excuses. 

-rant over-
If you're referring to ME, then yes my account never logged out and my warm sleeping body was here moderating in spirit 
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Claire wrote:
Hennastii wrote:
Claire wrote:
on my subreddit that i am the head moderator of- we have a zero toelrance policy for violence. if someone makes a violent threat- that's it. you're gone. end of story. skip the warnings. skip the steps. get rid of the person who has made a violent threat. it literally makes no sense to me that you guys sit around discussing this shit  like it's not obvious what you need to do to protect your community. 
you have to notice that there are also other servers and admins and mods on them and the rules have to be the same on every server

we can't just go and change them in a second

so the other servers also would tolerate a KYS comment. how is that better? how is that a good excuse ffor this? are you serious right now?
Where has anyone said it was acceptable to say this?
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Photosynthesis wrote:
Claire wrote:
Hennastii wrote:
you have to notice that there are also other servers and admins and mods on them and the rules have to be the same on every server

we can't just go and change them in a second

so the other servers also would tolerate a KYS comment. how is that better? how is that a good excuse ffor this? are you serious right now?
Where has anyone said it was acceptable to say this?
by letting the person come back you have SHOWN that it is acceptable.
Private
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by making the ban temporary you have DEMONSTRATED that it is acceptable
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what i've learned is that

1. too few mods

2. there should be rules SET in place, not be a discussion matter

3. no excuses

4. LISTEN 
Pusk
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Claire wrote:
Hennastii wrote:
Claire wrote:
on my subreddit that i am the head moderator of- we have a zero toelrance policy for violence. if someone makes a violent threat- that's it. you're gone. end of story. skip the warnings. skip the steps. get rid of the person who has made a violent threat. it literally makes no sense to me that you guys sit around discussing this shit  like it's not obvious what you need to do to protect your community. 
you have to notice that there are also other servers and admins and mods on them and the rules have to be the same on every server

we can't just go and change them in a second

so the other servers also would tolerate a KYS comment. how is that better? how is that a good excuse ffor this? are you serious right now?
I am assuming, they'd timeout whoever said it, depending on their previous timeouts / ban is up for discussing etc. I understand, they can't just ban someone for "no" reason
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Anyways a lot of the time it's also the people in the threads responding that egg them on to the point they feel like this. So not only are they the problem and deserve a harsher punishment but also the people who say this.

But every time someone has said "kys" they get an automatic TO
everyone gets treated the same and goes through the exact same tier of 3 TO's 2 week To ban
But if you're chill for 5-6 months you're starting at square 1 
Ad0xa
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Eis wrote:
what i've learned is that

1. too few mods

2. there should be rules SET in place, not be a discussion matter

3. no excuses

4. LISTEN 
Agree !
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