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Shadowjess wrote:
Following on from all of the mess that's happened, I do want to address a few things. So bare with me while I put my admin hat back on,  just to add that this will also contain some of my own personal opinions on this which carries on from my forum yesterday,

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As most of you are aware by now, messages and screen prints of been leaked regarding information about our sites own Kaj. For now I'm asking that no more tags or PMs are sent to him regarding the matter. From discussions with myself and the mods, he is adamant that the information being leaked are lies. I want to be able to believe that to keep this site going forward. 

I'm aware that several users have also messaged him asking for an apology to the EN server. At this point I don't understand why. Yes people want clarity on what's been happening so we can find level ground, but what has been leaked involves the Dutch server and members of the Dutch server. So Kaj won't be writing any posts on this server regarding the incident. 

Another reason to why I'm bringing this up also, is because I won't accept word of mouth or edited screenshots. As a lot of us know, it's very easy to set up a mock mail chain edit out the names and say it's someone else. For those who seek the truth, I hope that you follow the same wave length that I do regarding this. At the same time, if it is lies how is Kaj meant to provide information on lies?

ENPVP has always had it's ups and downs, and like most I don't want this to be the downfall that kicks us into the dark. 

So I urge you to think about the good times you have spent on this site and use those memories to keep this site a positive place. I will stay here on VP regardless of if people start leaving, all the way up until the last member if need be. Even if I was to ever resign. 


#ENVPSTANDSSTRONG
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:28
Chrissy
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Chrissy wrote:
Nice words!! 
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:30
Damjal
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Damjal wrote:
If Kaj isnt going to do that much on the EN server, are you basically in charge of EN server?? :o
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:32
Fiskarna
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Fiskarna wrote:
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Bunny wrote:
I have mixed feelings about all this, but I will still stand behind you and trust you.
But I do think that these issues affect all the servers, not just the Dutch, and so I feel like we deserve to be addressed by Kaj too...
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:34
Runa
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Runa wrote:
Bunny wrote:
I have mixed feelings about all this, but I will still stand behind you and trust you.
But I do think that these issues affect all the servers, not just the Dutch, and so I feel like we deserve to be addressed by Kaj too...
^^^
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:34
Damjal
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Damjal wrote:
Bunny wrote:
I have mixed feelings about all this, but I will still stand behind you and trust you.
But I do think that these issues affect all the servers, not just the Dutch, and so I feel like we deserve to be addressed by Kaj too...
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:35
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Shadowjess wrote:
Damjal wrote:
If Kaj isnt going to do that much on the EN server, are you basically in charge of EN server??
I won't be given full admin duties, and after what's happened I can respect his choice in that.
I even offered to pay to buy company shares (which I wasn't going to mention) to be able to keep the site running as smooth as I can.


But I will do my best with what I have! and tbf, Kaj responds very quickly to me also.


@Bunny 
I get that, but at the moment (and I don't really blame him) I think he wants to stay off the server until it's settled down.I may be able to get him to later on, but with what's being going on understandably he's probably more stressed then the rest of us.
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:35 | Times changed: 2
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Bunny wrote:
I have mixed feelings about all this, but I will still stand behind you and trust you.
But I do think that these issues affect all the servers, not just the Dutch, and so I feel like we deserve to be addressed by Kaj too...
Date: 01-06-2017 18:36
Beholder
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beholder wrote:
Bunny wrote:
I have mixed feelings about all this, but I will still stand behind you and trust you.
But I do think that these issues affect all the servers, not just the Dutch, and so I feel like we deserve to be addressed by Kaj too...

this. 
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:37
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Bunny wrote:
Shadowjess wrote:
Damjal wrote:
If Kaj isnt going to do that much on the EN server, are you basically in charge of EN server??
I won't be given full admin duties, and after what's happened I can respect his choice in that.
I even offered to pay to buy company shares (which I wasn't going to mention) to be able to keep the site running as smooth as I can.


But I will do my best with what I have! and tbf, Kaj responds very quickly to me also.


@Bunny 
I get that, but at the moment (and I don't really blame him) I think he wants to stay off the servers until it's settled down.I may be able to get him to later on, but with what's being going on understandable he's probably more stressed then the rest of us.
Yeah I can totally understand that, but he does still have a responsibility. So although it's difficult and stressful, he can't and shouldn't run away until things calm down by themselves.
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:37
Beholder
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beholder wrote:
i legitimately thought this thread was going to be by him actually, so i'm a bit disappointed. 
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:37
Redd
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Redd wrote:
its been a stressful week. honestly everyone's vp lives would be better and simpler if he gave you the ability to run the site without going through him- he could easily do so and butt in if he felt things were being handled wrong. hes a money grubber, and what kills me is that if he would just fuck off and let you do the work (if you chose to! of course!) then he would be MAKING MORE MONEY cuz ppl wouldnt be so hung up on his childishness.

thats the difference between gSm being run by a small corporation vs VP, run by a scam artist with the mind of a child. if we could jUST FIND some MIDDLE GROUND. yeesh.

ALSO. he likes to pretend we dont exist. we don't exist until we bug him. we feel ignored, and rightfully so.
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:38 | Times changed: 1
Fiskarna
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Fiskarna wrote:
whats the motivation behind not giving you full admin powers
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:39
Redd
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Redd wrote:
Fiskarna wrote:
whats the motivation behind not giving you full admin powers

probably doesnt trust anyone at this point.
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Date: 01-06-2017 18:40
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Claire wrote:
Redd wrote:
Fiskarna wrote:
whats the motivation behind not giving you full admin powers

probably doesnt trust anyone at this point.
;-; the little stunt of bannng him, can't really blame him to trust no one after that.
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