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i'm making a seperate thread for this so that i have more space to deconstruct it without cluttering up the original forum, hopefully @Kaj will see this and we can work something out
*update* my responses to kaj will be in blue.
-"i have some kind of feeling that i should apologize, but for what?" maybe for making a shitlist
I dit not
okay, so you expect me to believe that your 'shitlist' blog magically appeared after namedropping four users just because you felt like sharing a song you never mentioned liking before. okay then.
telling admins publically that you were disappointed with them
I was a little bit since they did not believe me but we talked about it
it's still not appropriate for your to publically say things like that. if you are disappointed in someone, you tell them privately if you actually want them to learn- if you do it publically, you are just looking to shame them.
namedropping four users that you banned,
?
i don't have any reliable screenshots since you so wonderfully deleted the thread where you said it, but i have it copy/pasted here.
threatening to have people's tumblr accounts deleted... need i go on?
?
here, and whether you meant tumblr or vp accounts, sharing an announcement threatening to delete accounts (like you've done with hamartia in the past) is highly inappropriate- there's a difference between a warning and a threat, and you've crossed that line
there's a lot you need to apologize for, and not just this week's incident. again and again you've been rude and nasty to your users, and every time you cover it up with 'that's how i am!' if that's how you are, then you are in no place to professionally run a website.
-you're claiming that a former admin mod tried to "burn vp to the ground",
It was not an admin, it was a mod.
point noted, post has been edited.
but all she did was expose you.
no she told lies
what part were lies? right now there's misinformation flying left and right, and you not addressing it is only pushing that misinformation further.
many users will agree that we love the site, but dislike the fact that you are running it (and you haven't done much to try to win us over). if you had addressed the vpleaks in the first place and elaborated on what was and wasn't true, it would have cut down on user speculation and spread misinformation in the first place.
Treu, learning point
-'i do not make any money off of vp' then where are the funds for this luxurious trip to a high-end waterpark coming from?
The same source I fund VP with. I have another successful businesses.
so you're taking funds from a second business to fund the waterpark? that doesn't exactly seem fair to that second business, but it's probably not my place to comment on that since i don't really have a horse in that race.
why are you not addressing that you allegedly took 10k from vp funds?
That was just totally rubbish made up bullshit, why should I comment on every lie that a some user made up. No, I do not.
because in a position of power, you have the ability to formally address lies and make sure that your users know the truth. if you refuse to address major lies like this, it just makes it look like you're avoiding the truth, regardless of whether or not it's actually a lie.
if all funds are going towards the app/site developement like you claim, why are many of the features buggy at best and why has the app been in development for over a year now, without so much as a screenshot to show that you're actually putting effort into making something?
-'neither kim and i were happy' let kim speak for herself- in person, on camera, something. many users are convinced that you logged onto kim's account and used her account to pretend that she was unhappy with this, and the evidence is definitely against you (kim normally has decent english, and has never called any of her users cunts [though that could be a mistranslation on my part]).
She did not name anyone a cunt, and I never have posted stuff on her behalf
like i said, the cunt thing was most likely a mistranslation on my part, and i can't prove or disprove the kim thing either way.
-thank you for having the decency to at least take a small bit of accountability for your attitude, but it really doesn't show anything when you just apologize and then refuse to fix any of your errors. you need to apologize to the users you namedropped, you need to admit your mistakes directly instead of just saying 'i'm sorry for how i responded'.
The attitude you show now in this topic towards me is exactly why I am not around as much as you want, I do not feel welcome.
you said in the other thread 'i'm tired of being criticized' then fix the issues people are bringing to you. you chose to take on a site, and if your customers are unhappy, your site's not likely to get any business. your main focus should be 'how can i find a happy medium', not 'how can i brush off user feedback as much as possible'
-why do you still insist on not giving shadowjess more admin privileges? i'm sorry she's not dating you, but that doesn't give you a right to leave us with an admin that can't manage the site properly because she's not being given the tools to handle things (and you're clearly not going to do it). the best way to fix any issues the english server has with you is to let shadowjess handle things, have more communication with the mods, and actually attempt to make things right.
See my original topic
it still doesn't make sense if you're just going to demote them the second they break up with you. you say that people don't want lianne back on the site, but from what i've seen people adored her and would be more than happy to have her back.
-sorry if any of this sounds overly aggressive or harsh, but quite frankly i'm pissed at how long this has been going on with no effort on your end to attempt to smooth things over.
i'm making a seperate thread for this so that i have more space to deconstruct it without cluttering up the original forum, hopefully @Kaj will see this and we can work something out
*update* my responses to kaj will be in blue.
-"i have some kind of feeling that i should apologize, but for what?" maybe for making a shitlist
I dit not
okay, so you expect me to believe that your 'shitlist' blog magically appeared after namedropping four users just because you felt like sharing a song you never mentioned liking before. okay then.
telling admins publically that you were disappointed with them
I was a little bit since they did not believe me but we talked about it
it's still not appropriate for your to publically say things like that. if you are disappointed in someone, you tell them privately if you actually want them to learn- if you do it publically, you are just looking to shame them.
namedropping four users that you banned,
?
i don't have any reliable screenshots since you so wonderfully deleted the thread where you said it, but i have it copy/pasted here.
threatening to have people's tumblr accounts deleted... need i go on?
?
here, and whether you meant tumblr or vp accounts, sharing an announcement threatening to delete accounts (like you've done with hamartia in the past) is highly inappropriate- there's a difference between a warning and a threat, and you've crossed that line
there's a lot you need to apologize for, and not just this week's incident. again and again you've been rude and nasty to your users, and every time you cover it up with 'that's how i am!' if that's how you are, then you are in no place to professionally run a website.
-you're claiming that a former admin mod tried to "burn vp to the ground",
It was not an admin, it was a mod.
point noted, post has been edited.
but all she did was expose you.
no she told lies
what part were lies? right now there's misinformation flying left and right, and you not addressing it is only pushing that misinformation further.
many users will agree that we love the site, but dislike the fact that you are running it (and you haven't done much to try to win us over). if you had addressed the vpleaks in the first place and elaborated on what was and wasn't true, it would have cut down on user speculation and spread misinformation in the first place.
Treu, learning point
-'i do not make any money off of vp' then where are the funds for this luxurious trip to a high-end waterpark coming from?
The same source I fund VP with. I have another successful businesses.
so you're taking funds from a second business to fund the waterpark? that doesn't exactly seem fair to that second business, but it's probably not my place to comment on that since i don't really have a horse in that race.
why are you not addressing that you allegedly took 10k from vp funds?
That was just totally rubbish made up bullshit, why should I comment on every lie that a some user made up. No, I do not.
because in a position of power, you have the ability to formally address lies and make sure that your users know the truth. if you refuse to address major lies like this, it just makes it look like you're avoiding the truth, regardless of whether or not it's actually a lie.
if all funds are going towards the app/site developement like you claim, why are many of the features buggy at best and why has the app been in development for over a year now, without so much as a screenshot to show that you're actually putting effort into making something?
-'neither kim and i were happy' let kim speak for herself- in person, on camera, something. many users are convinced that you logged onto kim's account and used her account to pretend that she was unhappy with this, and the evidence is definitely against you (kim normally has decent english, and has never called any of her users cunts [though that could be a mistranslation on my part]).
She did not name anyone a cunt, and I never have posted stuff on her behalf
like i said, the cunt thing was most likely a mistranslation on my part, and i can't prove or disprove the kim thing either way.
-thank you for having the decency to at least take a small bit of accountability for your attitude, but it really doesn't show anything when you just apologize and then refuse to fix any of your errors. you need to apologize to the users you namedropped, you need to admit your mistakes directly instead of just saying 'i'm sorry for how i responded'.
The attitude you show now in this topic towards me is exactly why I am not around as much as you want, I do not feel welcome.
you said in the other thread 'i'm tired of being criticized' then fix the issues people are bringing to you. you chose to take on a site, and if your customers are unhappy, your site's not likely to get any business. your main focus should be 'how can i find a happy medium', not 'how can i brush off user feedback as much as possible'
-why do you still insist on not giving shadowjess more admin privileges? i'm sorry she's not dating you, but that doesn't give you a right to leave us with an admin that can't manage the site properly because she's not being given the tools to handle things (and you're clearly not going to do it). the best way to fix any issues the english server has with you is to let shadowjess handle things, have more communication with the mods, and actually attempt to make things right.
See my original topic
it still doesn't make sense if you're just going to demote them the second they break up with you. you say that people don't want lianne back on the site, but from what i've seen people adored her and would be more than happy to have her back.
-sorry if any of this sounds overly aggressive or harsh, but quite frankly i'm pissed at how long this has been going on with no effort on your end to attempt to smooth things over.
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