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There should be another way to exchange pd to cr through the website not just by user exchange. It would add a better use for the bank. This would also help trading and allow users who can't afford to get cr by spending real money a chance to get cr besides having to trade some valuable items to even get a shot. 

this was probably  brought up numerous times before................. I just really hate inflation. 
Date: 14-04-2016 00:51
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ShadowFury wrote:
Here's the thing:
kaj wants $ 
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Date: 14-04-2016 00:54
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ShadowFury wrote:
Here's the thing:
kaj wants $ 
He can easily lose the $ if he keeps up with inflation. 
Date: 14-04-2016 00:55
Mold
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Mold wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
ShadowFury wrote:
Here's the thing:
kaj wants $ 
He can easily lose the $ if he keeps up with inflation. 
??? pretty sure he profits by allowing the buying power of each credit to drop.
Why else would he raise the sales cap to allow people to sell a single item for over 1,000 credits? He's obviously embracing inflation.

Anyway, all he has to do if his wallet's feeling skinny is call up ratskeleton to design some outfits for him to whore out for those limited time credit purchase bonuses. You guys ate that shit up.
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Date: 14-04-2016 00:59 | Times changed: 1
Cosmos
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Cosmos wrote:
Mold wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
ShadowFury wrote:
Here's the thing:
kaj wants $ 
He can easily lose the $ if he keeps up with inflation. 
??? pretty sure he profits by allowing the buying power of each credit to drop.
Why else would he raise the sales cap to allow people to sell a single item for over 1,000 credits?
I still feel like 20cr is a lot not to mention 1000. 

I really liked this game before, now I feel like its too much about wardrobe and money, sort of in real life. Rich people benefits more. But then again this is suppose to be like being a real pop star, so ehhh, rich is the better way to go. But I'm not rich, so I wouldn't know. 

I kind of agree with the whole inflation deal though. Gaia online 3.5 bil gold can barely buy much good items.
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Date: 14-04-2016 01:07
Cosmos
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Cosmos wrote:
Though the thing with the outfits is that they will at some point get to be too many in game to be too special.
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Date: 14-04-2016 01:08
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Cosmos wrote:
Mold wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
He can easily lose the $ if he keeps up with inflation. 
??? pretty sure he profits by allowing the buying power of each credit to drop.
Why else would he raise the sales cap to allow people to sell a single item for over 1,000 credits?
I still feel like 20cr is a lot not to mention 1000. 

I really liked this game before, now I feel like its too much about wardrobe and money, sort of in real life. Rich people benefits more. But then again this is suppose to be like being a real pop star, so ehhh, rich is the better way to go. But I'm not rich, so I wouldn't know. 

I kind of agree with the whole inflation deal though. Gaia online 3.5 bil gold can barely buy much good items.
Gaia is far worse. I looked up how much my coco kitty was worth recently I nearly died. I was like 'shit you guys fucked up really bad somewhere'
Date: 14-04-2016 01:11
Cosmos
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Cosmos wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
Cosmos wrote:
Mold wrote:
??? pretty sure he profits by allowing the buying power of each credit to drop.
Why else would he raise the sales cap to allow people to sell a single item for over 1,000 credits?
I still feel like 20cr is a lot not to mention 1000. 

I really liked this game before, now I feel like its too much about wardrobe and money, sort of in real life. Rich people benefits more. But then again this is suppose to be like being a real pop star, so ehhh, rich is the better way to go. But I'm not rich, so I wouldn't know. 

I kind of agree with the whole inflation deal though. Gaia online 3.5 bil gold can barely buy much good items.
Gaia is far worse. I looked up how much my coco kitty was worth recently I nearly died. I was like 'shit you guys fucked up really bad somewhere'
they f up real real bad. when 300k can buy you something nice, not 300 mil.
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Date: 14-04-2016 01:12
Rot1
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Rot1 wrote:
Oh, I'm not defending inflation or anything, I agree with you in spirit. I just don't want you to raise your hopes for something that's not going to happen. Gaia runs as a business first and a community second, which is why it is such a terrible place, economically and socially. VP is run the same way. kaj's priorities are pretty clear: profits are more important than user experience.

I could go way further in-depth about what gaia and vp did/does wrong economically, but this seems to be about income inequality as much as combating inflation. Do people complain about popdollar inflation, or just the currency you have to actually pay for?
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Date: 14-04-2016 01:46
Cosmos
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Cosmos wrote:
PatientZero wrote:
Oh, I'm not defending inflation or anything, I agree with you in spirit. I just don't want you to raise your hopes for something that's not going to happen. Gaia runs as a business first and a community second, which is why it is such a terrible place, economically and socially. VP is run the same way. kaj's priorities are pretty clear: profits are more important than user experience.

I could go way further in-depth about what gaia and vp did/does wrong economically, but this seems to be about income inequality as much as combating inflation. Do people complain about popdollar inflation, or just the currency you have to actually pay for?
Well I'd say both as inflation with pd as well as cr often led to not enough to pay for anything, though no one even really want pd when selling everyone just wants cr.
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Date: 14-04-2016 01:50
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PatientZero wrote:
Oh, I'm not defending inflation or anything, I agree with you in spirit. I just don't want you to raise your hopes for something that's not going to happen. Gaia runs as a business first and a community second, which is why it is such a terrible place, economically and socially. VP is run the same way. kaj's priorities are pretty clear: profits are more important than user experience.

I could go way further in-depth about what gaia and vp did/does wrong economically, but this seems to be about income inequality as much as combating inflation. Do people complain about popdollar inflation, or just the currency you have to actually pay for?
I have legitimately no hope in that factor. Gaia used to be vice versa.. It's really sad. I just like to figure out ways to kill the inflation and still keep people somewhat have hope as new users.
Date: 14-04-2016 01:56
Rot1
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Rot1 wrote:
Cosmos wrote:
PatientZero wrote:
Oh, I'm not defending inflation or anything, I agree with you in spirit. I just don't want you to raise your hopes for something that's not going to happen. Gaia runs as a business first and a community second, which is why it is such a terrible place, economically and socially. VP is run the same way. kaj's priorities are pretty clear: profits are more important than user experience.

I could go way further in-depth about what gaia and vp did/does wrong economically, but this seems to be about income inequality as much as combating inflation. Do people complain about popdollar inflation, or just the currency you have to actually pay for?
Well I'd say both as inflation with pd as well as cr often led to not enough to pay for anything, though no one even really want pd when selling everyone just wants cr.
Have popdollars really inflated? I see people complaining about not having pd almost as much as not having credits. People don't want popdollars when selling items because popdollars are only good for site functions and shop items younger than 24 hours. After the first 24 hours, most items are only available for credits because they're harder to earn without spending money. This is not an unforeseen effect of the 24-hour strategy; i guarantee it is intentional. Making items so time-limited forces users to check the site daily and discourages people from waiting to make purchase decisions, knowing that if they decide they want those items tomorrow they'll have to pay much more to buy the same item from someone else, so they better spend today. Of course people are going to crank up the price. people are greedy, and the system is honestly designed for them to profit by inflating prices.

anyway, i don't think popdollars have significantly inflated. The transfer rate between pd and cr really hasn't changed since the site opened and shop items are not much more expensive than they were three years ago, either. There are a lot more items coming out for girls to buy with both pd and cr, but you can't earn pd effortlessly the same way you can effortlessly order credits in bulk. While system functions sink enough pd to control pd inflation, they can't force users to spend credits for site functions because not everyone has credits to spend. It seems like they tried to compensate by making site functions incredibly expensive when using credits, but that seems like a pretty stupid idea to me.
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Date: 14-04-2016 02:43
Cosmos
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Cosmos wrote:
I agree that the cr to pd ratio is about the same 1: 3k, though at some point it did drop down then rise again. Thing is this is just and average ratio, often times it's more. (Though people insist it's not more, people want cr enough to pay more than 3k)

Well considering the amount of pd in game jumped from 34mil to 174mil is sort of.....a big difference. Though there are more players. Besides, you can't really buy much of anything for 3-5k, most things goes for 10k+ (unless you see some stuff from mp around that price and not counting Fashion shop). But yeah it's more or less due to greed just because it's unavailable.
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Date: 14-04-2016 03:26
Ariix
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Ariix wrote:
Tezzica wrote:
There should be another way to exchange pd to cr through the website not just by user exchange. It would add a better use for the bank. This would also help trading and allow users who can't afford to get cr by spending real money a chance to get cr besides having to trade some valuable items to even get a shot. 

this was probably  brought up numerous times before................. I just really hate inflation. 
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