do you believe in therapy? - Forum

Mookid
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mookid wrote:
a lot of it actually depends on the therapist too, and the type of therapy youre going to. sometimes the kind of therapy someone offers just doesnt fit with how you see the world or yourself or how your mind works and yeah, it seems that many therapists will try to offer you medication, but (depending where u are) that's kind of their job i guess? but if you dont want medication, they cant "deny" you help still, so they will go through other methods of course. some seem to agree that the combination of medication and therapy is the best way to go, the medication helping with the symptoms for the time being and therapy getting in the root causes to make it possible to live without meds later. but of course that doesn't work for everyone, and not wanting medication is perfectly understandable.

i'd say you just need to be open minded about the process and try to trust it, put in the work yourself and find a therapist you "click" with.

Artsy
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artsy wrote:

wuwu wrote:
i believe its good for a lot of people yes, but in my opinion its too normalised now to just tell people to go to therapy. you shouldnt need therapy for normal human emotions that everyone experience, this is what friends and family is for - talking about feelings, being open about things that bother you and work through it together. people seem to think therapy = a cure to whatever you struggle with which it definitely does not. therapy can teach you how to cope with feelings when you feel like you cant figure this out on your own, and if you have trauma/very bad thoughts that you cannot speak with friends or family about then it can be good to have a therapist to open up to. in the end youre the one doing the work you think needs to be done

i agree very much with this. how many kids are diagnosed with depression or anxiety these days? isn't it completely normal for teenagers to be self-conscious, insecure and feel confused? that's just part of life. i think it does more harm than good to put a label on everything. there is a long line to be crossed between feeling sad and chronic depression. i think those who prescribe the medications (with the help from the therapists) are far too quick to go with the latter.

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Arthema wrote:
I believe it's for everyone that actually needs help
normal emotions that we go through in our daily life is not a thing that requires therapy attention,
but things that are more severe do and all that is in that position can and should, and think that they are not worthy of help or can do it on their own until it's gotten worse

Mookid
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mookid wrote:

artsy wrote:

wuwu wrote:
i believe its good for a lot of people yes, but in my opinion its too normalised now to just tell people to go to therapy. you shouldnt need therapy for normal human emotions that everyone experience, this is what friends and family is for - talking about feelings, being open about things that bother you and work through it together. people seem to think therapy = a cure to whatever you struggle with which it definitely does not. therapy can teach you how to cope with feelings when you feel like you cant figure this out on your own, and if you have trauma/very bad thoughts that you cannot speak with friends or family about then it can be good to have a therapist to open up to. in the end youre the one doing the work you think needs to be done

i agree very much with this. how many kids are diagnosed with depression or anxiety these days? isn't it completely normal for teenagers to be self-conscious, insecure and feel confused? that's just part of life. i think it does more harm than good to put a label on everything. there is a long line to be crossed between feeling sad and chronic depression. i think those who prescribe the medications (with the help from the therapists) are far too quick to go with the latter.

this is also true. if you dont feel like you need therapy, can perform everyday tasks and feel relatively ok then you probably dont need it. on the other hand, if you have some stuff that's on your mind regularly and you can't seem to shake by yourself, or if you've been living in a prolonged state of confusion, just talking about it with a professional might help you see your thoughts in a differnt light and help you heal yourself. if you dont want/need medication, just talking about your thoughts shouldn't do any harm

Solar
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Solar wrote:

artsy wrote:

wuwu wrote:
i believe its good for a lot of people yes, but in my opinion its too normalised now to just tell people to go to therapy. you shouldnt need therapy for normal human emotions that everyone experience, this is what friends and family is for - talking about feelings, being open about things that bother you and work through it together. people seem to think therapy = a cure to whatever you struggle with which it definitely does not. therapy can teach you how to cope with feelings when you feel like you cant figure this out on your own, and if you have trauma/very bad thoughts that you cannot speak with friends or family about then it can be good to have a therapist to open up to. in the end youre the one doing the work you think needs to be done

i agree very much with this. how many kids are diagnosed with depression or anxiety these days? isn't it completely normal for teenagers to be self-conscious, insecure and feel confused? that's just part of life. i think it does more harm than good to put a label on everything. there is a long line to be crossed between feeling sad and chronic depression. i think those who prescribe the medications (with the help from the therapists) are far too quick to go with the latter.

getting a diagnosis isn't easy & done by using an extensive list of criteria you have to fit to actually get the diagnosis. there are more ppl getting diagnosed bc society is getting more & more complicated, which makes it harder to keep up for a lot of people

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Conqueror wrote:
its not just talking to someone and opening up, its also changing unhealthy behaviors by using techniques that are proven to work
so yes, i do believe in therapy

Artsy
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artsy wrote:

Conqueror wrote:

artsy wrote:

wuwu wrote:
i believe its good for a lot of people yes, but in my opinion its too normalised now to just tell people to go to therapy. you shouldnt need therapy for normal human emotions that everyone experience, this is what friends and family is for - talking about feelings, being open about things that bother you and work through it together. people seem to think therapy = a cure to whatever you struggle with which it definitely does not. therapy can teach you how to cope with feelings when you feel like you cant figure this out on your own, and if you have trauma/very bad thoughts that you cannot speak with friends or family about then it can be good to have a therapist to open up to. in the end youre the one doing the work you think needs to be done

i agree very much with this. how many kids are diagnosed with depression or anxiety these days? isn't it completely normal for teenagers to be self-conscious, insecure and feel confused? that's just part of life. i think it does more harm than good to put a label on everything. there is a long line to be crossed between feeling sad and chronic depression. i think those who prescribe the medications (with the help from the therapists) are far too quick to go with the latter.

getting a diagnosis isn't easy & done by using an extensive list of criteria you have to fit to actually get the diagnosis. there are more ppl getting diagnosed bc society is getting more & more complicated, which makes it harder to keep up for a lot of people

i have heard from many detransitioners (people who used to identify as trans) and their experience and it's not uncommon to hear how easily they could get their hands on estrogen as under 18 as well.

this critera you speak of are symptoms. if you know the symptoms (which is easily accessible through the internet) you can easily go diagnose shopping although it may take some time and money but it is certainly possible. this happens with people who get social security as well. this of course depends heavily on where you live.

this might seem very anecdotal since obviously it would be near impossible to get actual numbers on this. who knows how many people deliberately lie? who knows how many people are misdiagnosed? all we can say for sure is that it's happening. is that a necessary evil for the benefits of others? that is the question

Fuji
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Fuji wrote:
a couple years back i went to therapy mostly about my dad
it really helped me accept him and his shortcomings
but it only helped because i opened up and took a chance

if you don't open up it won't help you

Solar
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Solar wrote:

artsy wrote:

Conqueror wrote:

artsy wrote:
i agree very much with this. how many kids are diagnosed with depression or anxiety these days? isn't it completely normal for teenagers to be self-conscious, insecure and feel confused? that's just part of life. i think it does more harm than good to put a label on everything. there is a long line to be crossed between feeling sad and chronic depression. i think those who prescribe the medications (with the help from the therapists) are far too quick to go with the latter.

getting a diagnosis isn't easy & done by using an extensive list of criteria you have to fit to actually get the diagnosis. there are more ppl getting diagnosed bc society is getting more & more complicated, which makes it harder to keep up for a lot of people

i have heard from many detransitioners (people who used to identify as trans) and their experience and it's not uncommon to hear how easily they could get their hands on estrogen as under 18 as well.

this critera you speak of are symptoms. if you know the symptoms (which is easily accessible through the internet) you can easily go diagnose shopping although it may take some time and money but it is certainly possible. this happens with people who get social security as well. this of course depends heavily on where you live.

this might seem very anecdotal since obviously it would be near impossible to get actual numbers on this. who knows how many people deliberately lie? who knows how many people are misdiagnosed? all we can say for sure is that it's happening. is that a necessary evil for the benefits of others? that is the question

hmhm, sure, that does happen and it's very problematic that it's happening. but i was responding to ur message in which u said that kids are diagnosed with depression/anxiety because of the normal amount of sadness/insecurity they expierence for their age. this isn't true, because a normal amount of sadness or insecurity wouldn't make you fit the criteria to get diagnosed with depression or anxiety. but yeah, if they lied about the intensity of their symptoms, they could get misdiagnosed - though that wouldn't be the professionals fault, but the clients fault.
& what do you mean with your last question? is it a necessary evil for some ppl to get misdiagnosed, so that other people who really need a diagnosis and the right treatment can also be diagnosed? because if that's what you mean, then yeah, definitely.

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Sobbing wrote:
it works,
you just have to be willing to put the work in and actually apply what you are learning in therapy

Meister
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Meister wrote:
A lot depends on what kind of therapy and the doctor you see at the therapy sessions.
Sometimes you need to change because you and the therapist dont fit and understands each other.
And a lot also depends on how much you want help, i get angry when i hear about people that are going to a session and then DONT TALK. After they say "Therapy dont work, my therapist dont understand"
Of course you wont get help if you dont answer the questions or talk to them. They cant read your mind and you take the time from someone that really needs therapy.

Some people wont accept that they are doing things wrong and its always everyone else fault not their.
I believe in therapy combined with medicine, some people need both to feel better and to have a functioning life.

Private
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Sobbing wrote:

artsy wrote:

Conqueror wrote:

artsy wrote:
i agree very much with this. how many kids are diagnosed with depression or anxiety these days? isn't it completely normal for teenagers to be self-conscious, insecure and feel confused? that's just part of life. i think it does more harm than good to put a label on everything. there is a long line to be crossed between feeling sad and chronic depression. i think those who prescribe the medications (with the help from the therapists) are far too quick to go with the latter.

getting a diagnosis isn't easy & done by using an extensive list of criteria you have to fit to actually get the diagnosis. there are more ppl getting diagnosed bc society is getting more & more complicated, which makes it harder to keep up for a lot of people

i have heard from many detransitioners (people who used to identify as trans) and their experience and it's not uncommon to hear how easily they could get their hands on estrogen as under 18 as well.

this critera you speak of are symptoms. if you know the symptoms (which is easily accessible through the internet) you can easily go diagnose shopping although it may take some time and money but it is certainly possible. this happens with people who get social security as well. this of course depends heavily on where you live.

this might seem very anecdotal since obviously it would be near impossible to get actual numbers on this. who knows how many people deliberately lie? who knows how many people are misdiagnosed? all we can say for sure is that it's happening. is that a necessary evil for the benefits of others? that is the question

that is a philosophical point of view, there are different theories about what ''right'' is, intent, consequences and law are some of those viewpoints, in this case its more of a consequential way of thinking as to how many sacrifices are made for the better good

statistically, lets say for detransitioning which you brought up, on the studies made it is estimated that only 3% detransition or regret their decision whereas 97% are happy with their results. is it right that 3% have to suffer? no, but realistically speaking it is impossible to make everyone happy, some people will suffer in any case so prioritizing the majority, which in this case would be 97% in the detransitioning case or studies made on misdiagnoses in general where it shows that 5% of the population get misdiagnosed vs. 95% getting the proper diagnosis and help they need.

its the same dilemma, imprison 1 person wrongfully and keep 50 murderers in, or let everyone escape their sentences?

the general basis is that these mistakes or wrongdoings are not intentional and the methods to correctly diagnose and prevent wrongdoings are always being worked on but it will never be 100%

Apate
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Apate wrote:
Ofc i do