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almost forgot abt usa election
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Sylvan wrote:
somewhat unrelated but I don't understand why voting machines are so widespread in the US. Why not use paper?
I will guess here but it can be because papers can be be fake with fake votes. A machine can help people that dont speak English. They can choose their language  and  it also could save time to count the votes.
Im just guessing!
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looks like it worked out this time. Although realistically this is mostly damage control to whatever trump is doing and there are still too many corporate democrats in the senate and house
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Meister wrote:
Sometimes i wonder if it would be better if a robot decided things for us, a robot cant be bribed and can think more logical and give out different results of the same problem. But i wonder how New York will be in the future with the mayor they have now. I get tons of Youtube videos of New York and how they are going downhill.
while the robot itself doesnt have feelings or ideologies there is however bias for what youre feeding it, ai (whether gen ai or any type of robot stuff) has to be trained on something and that something will likely be biased towards a specific belief or opinion whether the author realises it or not 
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Sylvan wrote:
somewhat unrelated but I don't understand why voting machines are so widespread in the US. Why not use paper?
what are voting machines
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whydoiexist wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
somewhat unrelated but I don't understand why voting machines are so widespread in the US. Why not use paper?
what are voting machines
Imagine an extra large iPad with multiple choice questions. Thats how we vote instead of paper ballots
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Meister wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
somewhat unrelated but I don't understand why voting machines are so widespread in the US. Why not use paper?
I will guess here but it can be because papers can be be fake with fake votes. A machine can help people that dont speak English. They can choose their language  and  it also could save time to count the votes.
Im just guessing!
The machines are also easier to count, no human error + "free" labor
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NobodyFamous wrote:
Meister wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
somewhat unrelated but I don't understand why voting machines are so widespread in the US. Why not use paper?
I will guess here but it can be because papers can be be fake with fake votes. A machine can help people that dont speak English. They can choose their language  and  it also could save time to count the votes.
Im just guessing!
The machines are also easier to count, no human error + "free" labor
hm, maybe it's because I live in a pretty old-fashioned country, but paper always seemed 'safer' and less prone to systematic abuse to me. 
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Sylvan wrote:
NobodyFamous wrote:
Meister wrote:
I will guess here but it can be because papers can be be fake with fake votes. A machine can help people that dont speak English. They can choose their language  and  it also could save time to count the votes.
Im just guessing!
The machines are also easier to count, no human error + "free" labor
hm, maybe it's because I live in a pretty old-fashioned country, but paper always seemed 'safer' and less prone to systematic abuse to me. 
i think both can be abused tbh, so many cases of paper votes being faked and stuff unfortunately.,. but still feels safer somehow i agree
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whydoiexist wrote:
Meister wrote:
Sometimes i wonder if it would be better if a robot decided things for us, a robot cant be bribed and can think more logical and give out different results of the same problem. But i wonder how New York will be in the future with the mayor they have now. I get tons of Youtube videos of New York and how they are going downhill.
while the robot itself doesnt have feelings or ideologies there is however bias for what youre feeding it, ai (whether gen ai or any type of robot stuff) has to be trained on something and that something will likely be biased towards a specific belief or opinion whether the author realises it or not 
Tb to the racist AI judge 
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whydoiexist wrote:
Meister wrote:
Sometimes i wonder if it would be better if a robot decided things for us, a robot cant be bribed and can think more logical and give out different results of the same problem. But i wonder how New York will be in the future with the mayor they have now. I get tons of Youtube videos of New York and how they are going downhill.
while the robot itself doesnt have feelings or ideologies there is however bias for what youre feeding it, ai (whether gen ai or any type of robot stuff) has to be trained on something and that something will likely be biased towards a specific belief or opinion whether the author realises it or not 

Yes the robot can give bad advice and s on, im just tired of things taking years and years before they get better. Teachers has been screaming for help for years and they get the are minimum or nothing at all. The government cant agree if one party refuses to cooperate and the things will be talked about in the next election. 

If they get five different options wilt pros and cons on everything they can save years of discussion and see what can be done instead of just talking and make a decisions that on the long term affects people more negativ.e.
Im not saying that robots would decide ever thing, but act as a tool that can see if a scenario is good or not. We need humans to make decisions and that listens to people. A robot only see hard facts and dont see the people that are working. With the inflation, less payment, higher rent and so on it feels like we are not getting anywhere. And that the politicians are just talking in circles about the same things from 10 years back. ANn they will still talk in circles the next time we vote.

Im bad at explaining in text!! 
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Sylvan wrote:
somewhat unrelated but I don't understand why voting machines are so widespread in the US. Why not use paper?
Because when they use the voting machines, it counts your votes as soon as they're submitted. It syncs up the results to the main server. So the votes are more accurate and you can immediately see the results of who's winning in just hours.

When you use paper, they need to collect the ballot boxes, and transport them, and count them manually. The ballot boxes can be easily stolen and replaced along the way.

Both of them can be prone to cheating, but using the voting machines make it less likely than the paper ones.
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