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TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
Pride week isn't over yet, but I'd like to start gathering some ideas of what y'all have liked and disliked. This will help for planning next year's event.

1. So, three favorite things about pride week?

2. Three things you didn't like about pride week?

3. Two things you'd like to see in next year's pride week? Feel free to give as many ideas as you'd like.

Thank you!

1) i rly liked the diversity of things included! (like it wasn't just designs or social media posts, it was the two of them + competitions, forum posts, blog posts...) i also liked how some sets were unlimited! tht rly gives a chance 4 every lgbt person to get their flag without worrying abt it being snatched in seconds by ppl of other orientations/genders/even cishets! and i rly liked the designs! they were all rly pretty and i liked how each flag was given both a female and a male avatar versions!

2) i think it wasn't very well planned in general. even if u guys took months to put the event together, u still have lives and other stuff to worry abt so u couldn't have spent the WHOLE time on planning the event. bcuz of this, i think it should be discussed throughout the year to at least have a rough guideline on what should be done when the time to actually do what will be used in the event, like sets and articles, all u guys will have to worry abt is the execution of ur plans and not planning the whole event in a small amount of time.
also, even tho some sets were unlimited, others were limited and idk if tht's good for an event like pride? even tho it probably stimulates lgbt users to pay attention to the smt pages and all (which was probably what u guys were going for?). i just don't think limited sets rly work for pride? cuz it should include all the lgbt users! and they should not feel pressured to constantly check everything not to miss their flag imo. so maybe having code hunts and games to make it interesting and not SO available while still allowing all users to get their flags/flag sets?
another thing i didn't like were the competitions? (the dress up comps i mean) for the same reason i disliked the le codes. making flags exclusive to those who get to them faster (and maybe "better" in this case as well?) excludes those who should be included. maybe if the comps were only rly comps 4 a few users who weren't of tht particular lgbt orientation/gender? and all the users who WERE and participated in the comp would automatically get the prize

3) aaaaa i honestly have so many suggestions? i've given some regarding the aspects i dislikes abt the event above but i definitely have others if u guys would want to hear abt them! i'll read what other ppl wrote b4 so i don't repeat stuff tht's already been said!

thank u for making this thread!! and sorry if any of this is confusing? i'm not the best writer lmao feel free to ask if anything wasn't clear enough!

how would we do that last thing you wrote on 2)?
theres no way for us to "check" people's orientation/gender
i like what you're thinking, but i think it'd be hard to execute

This.
Plus I also feel like spending a year on one event is a big ask.
Multiple are events are planned throughout a year
If we spend a year planning all of them, nothing would get done and people would then complain that we don't do anything : //
Plus, the longer time is spent on an event - the more likely it is to get forgotten as teams have their own activities and responsibilities to do as a team, as well as collabing. I feel nothing would improve from spending longer planning tbh.
I think better communication would, completely. But I'm afraid a longer time span would do nothing, maybe even just make thing worse.

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dontcha wrote:

Targaryen wrote:

dontcha wrote:

TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
Pride week isn't over yet, but I'd like to start gathering some ideas of what y'all have liked and disliked. This will help for planning next year's event.

1. So, three favorite things about pride week?

2. Three things you didn't like about pride week?

3. Two things you'd like to see in next year's pride week? Feel free to give as many ideas as you'd like.

Thank you!

1) i rly liked the diversity of things included! (like it wasn't just designs or social media posts, it was the two of them + competitions, forum posts, blog posts...) i also liked how some sets were unlimited! tht rly gives a chance 4 every lgbt person to get their flag without worrying abt it being snatched in seconds by ppl of other orientations/genders/even cishets! and i rly liked the designs! they were all rly pretty and i liked how each flag was given both a female and a male avatar versions!

2) i think it wasn't very well planned in general. even if u guys took months to put the event together, u still have lives and other stuff to worry abt so u couldn't have spent the WHOLE time on planning the event. bcuz of this, i think it should be discussed throughout the year to at least have a rough guideline on what should be done when the time to actually do what will be used in the event, like sets and articles, all u guys will have to worry abt is the execution of ur plans and not planning the whole event in a small amount of time.
also, even tho some sets were unlimited, others were limited and idk if tht's good for an event like pride? even tho it probably stimulates lgbt users to pay attention to the smt pages and all (which was probably what u guys were going for?). i just don't think limited sets rly work for pride? cuz it should include all the lgbt users! and they should not feel pressured to constantly check everything not to miss their flag imo. so maybe having code hunts and games to make it interesting and not SO available while still allowing all users to get their flags/flag sets?
another thing i didn't like were the competitions? (the dress up comps i mean) for the same reason i disliked the le codes. making flags exclusive to those who get to them faster (and maybe "better" in this case as well?) excludes those who should be included. maybe if the comps were only rly comps 4 a few users who weren't of tht particular lgbt orientation/gender? and all the users who WERE and participated in the comp would automatically get the prize

3) aaaaa i honestly have so many suggestions? i've given some regarding the aspects i dislikes abt the event above but i definitely have others if u guys would want to hear abt them! i'll read what other ppl wrote b4 so i don't repeat stuff tht's already been said!

thank u for making this thread!! and sorry if any of this is confusing? i'm not the best writer lmao feel free to ask if anything wasn't clear enough!

how would we do that last thing you wrote on 2)?
theres no way for us to "check" people's orientation/gender
i like what you're thinking, but i think it'd be hard to execute

i was kinda imagining something like what yoko suggested? maybe in the end of may release a feature tht allows users to put in their lgbt identity and tht could get them a little flag beside their name (like the manager badge star?). this could be thru just like marking it in the account settings or having a "flag hunt" like yoko said! and tht could be on ppl's profile from late may to early july? to let ppl show their id during pride and also make it easier for them to be recognized during comps if they were done the way i suggested! of course some ppl could end up lying just to get stuff but idk if they would be a huge problem? especially not compared to ppl of some id not being able to get their flag set and also if it were "unchangeable" after u first put it in so it wouldn't allow ppl to choose whichever id is being used in a comp?
if this is still unclear i could try to explain again?

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1) i rly liked the diversity of things included! (like it wasn't just designs or social media posts, it was the two of them + competitions, forum posts, blog posts...) i also liked how some sets were unlimited! tht rly gives a chance 4 every lgbt person to get their flag without worrying abt it being snatched in seconds by ppl of other orientations/genders/even cishets! and i rly liked the designs! they were all rly pretty and i liked how each flag was given both a female and a male avatar versions!

2) i think it wasn't very well planned in general. even if u guys took months to put the event together, u still have lives and other stuff to worry abt so u couldn't have spent the WHOLE time on planning the event. bcuz of this, i think it should be discussed throughout the year to at least have a rough guideline on what should be done when the time to actually do what will be used in the event, like sets and articles, all u guys will have to worry abt is the execution of ur plans and not planning the whole event in a small amount of time.
also, even tho some sets were unlimited, others were limited and idk if tht's good for an event like pride? even tho it probably stimulates lgbt users to pay attention to the smt pages and all (which was probably what u guys were going for?). i just don't think limited sets rly work for pride? cuz it should include all the lgbt users! and they should not feel pressured to constantly check everything not to miss their flag imo. so maybe having code hunts and games to make it interesting and not SO available while still allowing all users to get their flags/flag sets?
another thing i didn't like were the competitions? (the dress up comps i mean) for the same reason i disliked the le codes. making flags exclusive to those who get to them faster (and maybe "better" in this case as well?) excludes those who should be included. maybe if the comps were only rly comps 4 a few users who weren't of tht particular lgbt orientation/gender? and all the users who WERE and participated in the comp would automatically get the prize

3) aaaaa i honestly have so many suggestions? i've given some regarding the aspects i dislikes abt the event above but i definitely have others if u guys would want to hear abt them! i'll read what other ppl wrote b4 so i don't repeat stuff tht's already been said!

thank u for making this thread!! and sorry if any of this is confusing? i'm not the best writer lmao feel free to ask if anything wasn't clear enough!

how would we do that last thing you wrote on 2)?
theres no way for us to "check" people's orientation/gender
i like what you're thinking, but i think it'd be hard to execute

i was kinda imagining something like what yoko suggested? maybe in the end of may release a feature tht allows users to put in their lgbt identity and tht could get them a little flag beside their name (like the manager badge star?). this could be thru just like marking it in the account settings or having a "flag hunt" like yoko said! and tht could be on ppl's profile from late may to early july? to let ppl show their id during pride and also make it easier for them to be recognized during comps if they were done the way i suggested! of course some ppl could end up lying just to get stuff but idk if they would be a huge problem? especially not compared to ppl of some id not being able to get their flag set and also if it were "unchangeable" after u first put it in so it wouldn't allow ppl to choose whichever id is being used in a comp?
if this is still unclear i could try to explain again?

I love the idea but it may be too much coding for VP.
Also, I don't agree with the unchangeable part as I know sexuality and gender is very fluid, especially as you grow and learn more. It wouldn't be very fair on people who think they are bi then come to understand they are homosexual, for example, just to name one.
Maybe if it was unchangeable for that year??

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by the wayy with the flag thing i meant just like a small flag in the Others section in the wardrobe, like the special effect diamonds, i dont think its possible to put it by a username.

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by the wayy with the flag thing i meant just like a small flag in the Others section in the wardrobe, like the special effect diamonds, i dont think its possible to put it by a username.

I feel like having it like the diamonds would actually be cuter than by usernames
Plus it'd allow people to stack them if they identify as multiple (like an example I saw in another thread is many saying they were panromantic asexual - it'd be good that people wouldn't have to pick one or the other)

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This. Plus I also feel like spending a year on one event is a big ask.
Multiple are events are planned throughout a year
If we spend a year planning all of them, nothing would get done and people would then complain that we don't do anything : //
Plus, the longer time is spent on an event - the more likely it is to get forgotten as teams have their own activities and responsibilities to do as a team, as well as collabing. I feel nothing would improve from spending longer planning tbh.
I think better communication would, completely. But I'm afraid a longer time span would do nothing, maybe even just make thing worse.

i meant it more like not letting the whole process wait til a couple of months b4 pride? not necessarily having team members actively discuss and create stuff for pride week.
also there could be a thread active throughout the year like this one for users to voice their opinions and discuss what they want to see with each other and team members? so u guys wouldn't have to do it all by urselves, which, admittedly, sounds nearly impossible.
if anything, u could still have the event discussions and the execution of plans of the event be restricted to a specific period inside the teams, but having an open channel for users (team members or not) to talk abt pride week and expectations or criticisms all year round would still be a rly good idea imo!

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Yoko wrote:

Quinzelle wrote:

Yoko wrote:
by the wayy with the flag thing i meant just like a small flag in the Others section in the wardrobe, like the special effect diamonds, i dont think its possible to put it by a username.

I feel like having it like the diamonds would actually be cuter than by usernames
Plus it'd allow people to stack them if they identify as multiple (like an example I saw in another thread is many saying they were panromantic asexual - it'd be good that people wouldn't have to pick one or the other)

yeah i thought about stacking too , maybe a space for gender and a space for sexuality. and a space for romantic too. maybe the rainbow pride flag has its own space entirely.

idk how to explain this without drawing a pic bt its like 1am Lol

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dontcha wrote:

Quinzelle wrote:
This. Plus I also feel like spending a year on one event is a big ask.
Multiple are events are planned throughout a year
If we spend a year planning all of them, nothing would get done and people would then complain that we don't do anything : //
Plus, the longer time is spent on an event - the more likely it is to get forgotten as teams have their own activities and responsibilities to do as a team, as well as collabing. I feel nothing would improve from spending longer planning tbh.
I think better communication would, completely. But I'm afraid a longer time span would do nothing, maybe even just make thing worse.

i meant it more like not letting the whole process wait til a couple of months b4 pride? not necessarily having team members actively discuss and create stuff for pride week.
also there could be a thread active throughout the year like this one for users to voice their opinions and discuss what they want to see with each other and team members? so u guys wouldn't have to do it all by urselves, which, admittedly, sounds nearly impossible.
if anything, u could still have the event discussions and the execution of plans of the event be restricted to a specific period inside the teams, but having an open channel for users (team members or not) to talk abt pride week and expectations or criticisms all year round would still be a rly good idea imo!

I get that, though from past experience, things like that often get abandoned by the community : //
Plus I would like to point back to the part about the other events. I know Pride is the one atm and the focus but we like to ensure that the same amount of effort is put into every event that we do.
So once you times the discussions by about 10 events, people start to get annoyed.
I do like the ideas but I think they need to be considered on a smaller scale (not the right word but it's 1 am and my vocab is out the window x3), almost. There needs to be a way to actively make sure the community pays attention to things like that, participates and a way that it can be equal for everything we create.
Idek if I'm making sense anymore x3

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Yoko wrote:

Quinzelle wrote:

Yoko wrote:
by the wayy with the flag thing i meant just like a small flag in the Others section in the wardrobe, like the special effect diamonds, i dont think its possible to put it by a username.

I feel like having it like the diamonds would actually be cuter than by usernames
Plus it'd allow people to stack them if they identify as multiple (like an example I saw in another thread is many saying they were panromantic asexual - it'd be good that people wouldn't have to pick one or the other)

yeah i thought about stacking too , maybe a space for gender and a space for sexuality. and a space for romantic too. maybe the rainbow pride flag has its own space entirely.

idk how to explain this without drawing a pic bt its like 1am Lol

That's okay, I know what you mean. I really like the idea :3 <3

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Quinzelle wrote:
I love the idea but it may be too much coding for VP. Also, I don't agree with the unchangeable part as I know sexuality and gender is very fluid, especially as you grow and learn more. It wouldn't be very fair on people who think they are bi then come to understand they are homosexual, for example, just to name one.
Maybe if it was unchangeable for that year??

yeah i understand. i would still like to see it even if it weren't available as soon as next year's pride (since it does seem like something tht would be very complicated to do, especially in a small time frame)
also yeah i meant it to be unchangeable only during tht specific pride! i guess i forgot to add/explain tht lol sorry,,, cuz i agree it would definitely be unfair to have it be unchangeable forever since i know from personal experience figuring out ur gender and orientation is rly hard lol

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Quinzelle wrote:
I love the idea but it may be too much coding for VP. Also, I don't agree with the unchangeable part as I know sexuality and gender is very fluid, especially as you grow and learn more. It wouldn't be very fair on people who think they are bi then come to understand they are homosexual, for example, just to name one.
Maybe if it was unchangeable for that year??

yeah i understand. i would still like to see it even if it weren't available as soon as next year's pride (since it does seem like something tht would be very complicated to do, especially in a small time frame)
also yeah i meant it to be unchangeable only during tht specific pride! i guess i forgot to add/explain tht lol sorry,,, cuz i agree it would definitely be unfair to have it be unchangeable forever since i know from personal experience figuring out ur gender and orientation is rly hard lol

Sadly, a lot of VP's coding relies on switching out something old for the new thing - e.g. new forum sections appearing = they replaced old ones. The only way I think it could be implemented would be if one of the current badges available was replaced. Though I'm not 100% sure, this is just what I gather from how ShadowJess explained the coding to me - so she's probably the better person to approach in terms of that x3
Aah that's okay :3 I just wanted to be sure I mentioned it <3

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dontcha wrote:

Quinzelle wrote:

dontcha wrote:
i meant it more like not letting the whole process wait til a couple of months b4 pride? not necessarily having team members actively discuss and create stuff for pride week.
also there could be a thread active throughout the year like this one for users to voice their opinions and discuss what they want to see with each other and team members? so u guys wouldn't have to do it all by urselves, which, admittedly, sounds nearly impossible.
if anything, u could still have the event discussions and the execution of plans of the event be restricted to a specific period inside the teams, but having an open channel for users (team members or not) to talk abt pride week and expectations or criticisms all year round would still be a rly good idea imo!

I get that, though from past experience, things like that often get abandoned by the community : //
Plus I would like to point back to the part about the other events. I know Pride is the one atm and the focus but we like to ensure that the same amount of effort is put into every event that we do.
So once you times the discussions by about 10 events, people start to get annoyed.
I do like the ideas but I think they need to be considered on a smaller scale (not the right word but it's 1 am and my vocab is out the window x3), almost. There needs to be a way to actively make sure the community pays attention to things like that, participates and a way that it can be equal for everything we create.
Idek if I'm making sense anymore x3

oh yeah i didn't think of tht... i guess it could be a problem if they were abandoned but tbh me and would probably be enough to keep an lgbt thread going for years lmao
imo tho like pride is extremely important? much more than most (if not all) other vp events and a place where lgbt users could talk abt their experiences and their suggestions 4 pride week is rly necessary even if some ppl will find it annoying.
yeah i get tht! i do think my suggestions were rly grand? like it would probably be impossible to have them all done in next year's pride week. a smaller scale of them and/or choosing specific ones to be done each year could definitely be a solution to tht!
and don't worry u're making sense to me lol

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dontcha wrote:

Quinzelle wrote:

dontcha wrote:

Quinzelle wrote:
I love the idea but it may be too much coding for VP. Also, I don't agree with the unchangeable part as I know sexuality and gender is very fluid, especially as you grow and learn more. It wouldn't be very fair on people who think they are bi then come to understand they are homosexual, for example, just to name one.
Maybe if it was unchangeable for that year??

yeah i understand. i would still like to see it even if it weren't available as soon as next year's pride (since it does seem like something tht would be very complicated to do, especially in a small time frame)
also yeah i meant it to be unchangeable only during tht specific pride! i guess i forgot to add/explain tht lol sorry,,, cuz i agree it would definitely be unfair to have it be unchangeable forever since i know from personal experience figuring out ur gender and orientation is rly hard lol

Sadly, a lot of VP's coding relies on switching out something old for the new thing - e.g. new forum sections appearing = they replaced old ones. The only way I think it could be implemented would be if one of the current badges available was replaced. Though I'm not 100% sure, this is just what I gather from how ShadowJess explained the coding to me - so she's probably the better person to approach in terms of that x3
Aah that's okay :3 I just wanted to be sure I mentioned it <3

oh ok. if there was a way to get around tht at least for pride i'd be stoked! but if all we can get is a flag we could wear, like yoko l8r said, it would still be enough imo!
and no problem! i get how what i said could be understood like u did and i'm glad u pointed it out! (l)

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Really glad to see all the discussion on here. Would love to hear more thoughts. (:

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Donoghue wrote:
the sets in the codes being the colors of lgbtq+ flags
the dress up comps, esp the second one
and the highlight and info about famous lgbtq+ supporters and such on the social media accs

the choice of celebrities to highlight; maybe do a more thorough background check?
the lack of eventfulness; ideas to combat this below
cant really think of anything else besides the yaoi/yuri thing but i know that wasn't a planned part of the event so i'm not gonna count it

small things happening daily, like forum discussions about how people realized their sexuality or their best memory of something lgbtq+ related, etc, and maybe make a survey to find out how many people belong to the different sexualities or something like that? interviews with lbgtq+ members... there are lots of small stuff that could be done without too much effort

I and liberstas actually did that for BT if you check the BT account ^^