BackstagePass - April - Forum

5sar
International star

5sar wrote:
etjen ur a flop

Private
World famous

Rochellette wrote:
So it wasn't fixed so I spend a golden key 😑😑😑😑

Balloon
National star

Balloon wrote:

VP-Etjen wrote:

peachier wrote:
nooo i already spent a golden key because i didn't know it was gonna be fixed

My suggestion to all players who were not able to get that item because they did more than 3 performances is to pay with credits for that day and send me a personal message and I will reimburse you the credits.

This (until it is fixed) seems to be the best way forward because it is weekend and the developer might only be back on Monday (though I'm trying to get hold of him) and if you don't buy the item now, then the other days will be blocked as well.

For the ones who used a golden key, I will see what we can do, but will only know more after I've spoken to the designer.

So if I get this right you are forced to try to get everything (even if you don't want certain items) if you want to be able to get the items for later days?!
OK, this backstagepass-thing is over for me now. It's a kind of blackmail.

Private
Queen of Queens

VP-Etjen wrote:

peachier wrote:
nooo i already spent a golden key because i didn't know it was gonna be fixed

My suggestion to all players who were not able to get that item because they did more than 3 performances is to pay with credits for that day and send me a personal message and I will reimburse you the credits.

This (until it is fixed) seems to be the best way forward because it is weekend and the developer might only be back on Monday (though I'm trying to get hold of him) and if you don't buy the item now, then the other days will be blocked as well.

For the ones who used a golden key, I will see what we can do, but will only know more after I've spoken to the designer.

Update:

The developer changed it to "3 or more performances".

I realise this is a bit too late for some of you who already paid with credits or who used a golden key. To take some pressure away, I have made the next couple of days "free" and have refunded the people who have sent me a direct message.

For the ones who are surprised that days/items can be bought with credits, please visit the FAQ page on the BSP for a more detailed explanation.

If you log in every day and do the BSP activities every day, then the items are for free and every month you can collect a full set.
In case you feel that VP should not ask any credits and you are of the opinion that everything should be for free, then please also ask yourself how we are going to pay for the next updates, or even pay for the daily running costs.

Regarding the next updates and as communicated previously; we will be updating the 'wardrobe'. If there are people who want to contribute, please send me a message and you might become part of a 'steering team' because it is true that I don't know anything about dress-up games and therefore I fully rely on the advise of others (like the designer team)

The BSP came from the brainpower of the designers of the 3 sites who had to explain the concept to me and my role was to merely translate the info to the developer. I feel that the designers did a wonderful job and the BSP is a great addition to VP. But I understand that other people want to contribute their ideas and therefore the need for a 'steering team' is born.

Lastly, I do see that one or two people have been highly critical and that is fine... everyone has the right to have their opinion on VP. However, I don't think personal attacks are really necessary, not only toward me, but towards anyone on VP. Please keep VP civilised as there are plenty of other platforms where you can attack people if you feel you need to attack someone or call someone names to make you feel better.

Private
National star

Sylvan wrote:
Tbh the fact that of you miss one day (that wasn't set to free) you can't claim any other days might really discourage players to be more active. Especially for new players who don't join on the first day of the month (which is most of them). Especially since a key is so expensive. It just seems very impractical.

If i was an inactive player who came back to log in on april 12 I would have no interest at all to log in on april 13 if I had to spend so much money to be able to participate in this month's backstagepass. Like i would absolutely not spend that many credits OR wait till the beginning of the next month to come back I would just go. A better solution would definitely be if ypu could just start at the current day without having to claim all prior days to be able to claim the current day. This is a lot more motivation to log in the next say.

On another note, you might clear the air with the teamers on here, especially the designers. Those are the people who keep the site running because you wouldn't make any money without their designs and they get paid very little for it which they accept because they want this site to continue to exist. The userbase is small and spends a lot of real money on average and they are more loyal to the teamers than you. All I'm saying is that you really need to communicate better and not randomly kick people off teams. You should give the badge back to the designer in question and pay what you owe them. I know you have a life and job outside of all this and vp is not making you money at this stage but if you continue to manage things the way you do it never will. This is absolutely not personal, just an observation from someone who has been here a long time and would hate to see the site go down for good.

Private
World famous

remains wrote:
when i still keep forgetting to do backstage pass when the reward is one of the best sets ever, you know it's a bad game feature

Private
Princess of Pop

Limited wrote:
does that mean that ill get my Golden key back from Day 4? since it was bugged af

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Princess of Pop

whydoiexist wrote:

VP-Etjen wrote:

peachier wrote:
nooo i already spent a golden key because i didn't know it was gonna be fixed

My suggestion to all players who were not able to get that item because they did more than 3 performances is to pay with credits for that day and send me a personal message and I will reimburse you the credits.

This (until it is fixed) seems to be the best way forward because it is weekend and the developer might only be back on Monday (though I'm trying to get hold of him) and if you don't buy the item now, then the other days will be blocked as well.

For the ones who used a golden key, I will see what we can do, but will only know more after I've spoken to the designer.

Update:

The developer changed it to "3 or more performances".

I realise this is a bit too late for some of you who already paid with credits or who used a golden key. To take some pressure away, I have made the next couple of days "free" and have refunded the people who have sent me a direct message.

For the ones who are surprised that days/items can be bought with credits, please visit the FAQ page on the BSP for a more detailed explanation.

If you log in every day and do the BSP activities every day, then the items are for free and every month you can collect a full set.
In case you feel that VP should not ask any credits and you are of the opinion that everything should be for free, then please also ask yourself how we are going to pay for the next updates, or even pay for the daily running costs.

Regarding the next updates and as communicated previously; we will be updating the 'wardrobe'. If there are people who want to contribute, please send me a message and you might become part of a 'steering team' because it is true that I don't know anything about dress-up games and therefore I fully rely on the advise of others (like the designer team)

The BSP came from the brainpower of the designers of the 3 sites who had to explain the concept to me and my role was to merely translate the info to the developer. I feel that the designers did a wonderful job and the BSP is a great addition to VP. But I understand that other people want to contribute their ideas and therefore the need for a 'steering team' is born.

Lastly, I do see that one or two people have been highly critical and that is fine... everyone has the right to have their opinion on VP. However, I don't think personal attacks are really necessary, not only toward me, but towards anyone on VP. Please keep VP civilised as there are plenty of other platforms where you can attack people if you feel you need to attack someone or call someone names to make you feel better.

you might want to consider communicating with your already existing "steering team" sometimes first

"one or two people have been highly critical" no one here likes that fucking feature, not a single positive comment was left. you still havent addressed the fact that you refused to do another trial round with previous bsp set, using a new good set for a feature that works half the time.

at least on those other platforms person you attack would actually respond instead of saying hes busy with his "real job" and that he will "look into it" all the time.

Private
Princess of Pop

whydoiexist wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
Tbh the fact that of you miss one day (that wasn't set to free) you can't claim any other days might really discourage players to be more active. Especially for new players who don't join on the first day of the month (which is most of them). Especially since a key is so expensive. It just seems very impractical.

If i was an inactive player who came back to log in on april 12 I would have no interest at all to log in on april 13 if I had to spend so much money to be able to participate in this month's backstagepass. Like i would absolutely not spend that many credits OR wait till the beginning of the next month to come back I would just go. A better solution would definitely be if ypu could just start at the current day without having to claim all prior days to be able to claim the current day. This is a lot more motivation to log in the next say.

On another note, you might clear the air with the teamers on here, especially the designers. Those are the people who keep the site running because you wouldn't make any money without their designs and they get paid very little for it which they accept because they want this site to continue to exist. The userbase is small and spends a lot of real money on average and they are more loyal to the teamers than you. All I'm saying is that you really need to communicate better and not randomly kick people off teams. You should give the badge back to the designer in question and pay what you owe them. I know you have a life and job outside of all this and vp is not making you money at this stage but if you continue to manage things the way you do it never will. This is absolutely not personal, just an observation from someone who has been here a long time and would hate to see the site go down for good.

joob actually expressed reluctance to come back despite wanting to design because of this whole kicking out situation :/

insane how he would try to quietly kick someone out for calling him out on his bullshit, erasing them from the tracker so it would appear as if they were never there so he would not have to pay them and then complain about people being mean to him

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Princess of Pop

whydoiexist wrote:
if you want to act like you care, etjen, maybe try changing the fucking background that you were asked to do back in february instead of saying "i'll try"

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Princess of Pop

whydoiexist wrote:
designers and the entire userbase being treated like shit is getting old

Private
National star

Sylvan wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:

VP-Etjen wrote:

VP-Etjen wrote:

My suggestion to all players who were not able to get that item because they did more than 3 performances is to pay with credits for that day and send me a personal message and I will reimburse you the credits.

This (until it is fixed) seems to be the best way forward because it is weekend and the developer might only be back on Monday (though I'm trying to get hold of him) and if you don't buy the item now, then the other days will be blocked as well.

For the ones who used a golden key, I will see what we can do, but will only know more after I've spoken to the designer.

Update:

The developer changed it to "3 or more performances".

I realise this is a bit too late for some of you who already paid with credits or who used a golden key. To take some pressure away, I have made the next couple of days "free" and have refunded the people who have sent me a direct message.

For the ones who are surprised that days/items can be bought with credits, please visit the FAQ page on the BSP for a more detailed explanation.

If you log in every day and do the BSP activities every day, then the items are for free and every month you can collect a full set.
In case you feel that VP should not ask any credits and you are of the opinion that everything should be for free, then please also ask yourself how we are going to pay for the next updates, or even pay for the daily running costs.

Regarding the next updates and as communicated previously; we will be updating the 'wardrobe'. If there are people who want to contribute, please send me a message and you might become part of a 'steering team' because it is true that I don't know anything about dress-up games and therefore I fully rely on the advise of others (like the designer team)

The BSP came from the brainpower of the designers of the 3 sites who had to explain the concept to me and my role was to merely translate the info to the developer. I feel that the designers did a wonderful job and the BSP is a great addition to VP. But I understand that other people want to contribute their ideas and therefore the need for a 'steering team' is born.

Lastly, I do see that one or two people have been highly critical and that is fine... everyone has the right to have their opinion on VP. However, I don't think personal attacks are really necessary, not only toward me, but towards anyone on VP. Please keep VP civilised as there are plenty of other platforms where you can attack people if you feel you need to attack someone or call someone names to make you feel better.

you might want to consider communicating with your already existing "steering team" sometimes first

"one or two people have been highly critical" no one here likes that fucking feature, not a single positive comment was left. you still havent addressed the fact that you refused to do another trial round with previous bsp set, using a new good set for a feature that works half the time.

at least on those other platforms person you attack would actually respond instead of saying hes busy with his "real job" and that he will "look into it" all the time.

I actually like the concept of backstage pass. I just don't like the execution because of the points I mentioned

Dew
National star

Dew wrote:
Finding out designers get treated like shit on an avatar dress-up site is absolutely outrageous to me they are the bread and butter of the entire operation?

Can u imagine this site w/o new clothes we'd all be in dollzmania playing clumsy bird ctfu that would get old quick. Damn if I was running this site I would get back on their good side asap

Klavier
Minister of Pop

Klavier wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:

VP-Etjen wrote:

Dazzle wrote:
But how do we get the item without spending credits or golden keys? @VP-Etjen

I will check with the designer

what does this even mean

still wondering

Klavier
Minister of Pop

Klavier wrote:
see this is why i didn't want my set that i made specifically for mcm to be used for this broken unfinished feature T_T