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How to help kaj // re: his design thread
Klavier
Minister of Pop



Gucci wrote:
bowie wrote:
Claire wrote:

I got my username by PMing Kim when she was admin and she deleted the old account for me. I think this is still soemthing one can do? Not a full solution to the issue, but it's a temporary solution that works.
me too
but kim isnt admin anymore and kaj hasnt said that we can ask him to do it
you can ask Jess tho
thats what i mean its the same thing there hfhshfj jess hasnt publically stated that u can tuen to her
kim made an official thread about it and when she was removed as admin nobody said “ok so this is being handed over to this person so ask them instead” it just got dropped
of course u can just message jess and ask but when theres no “official” statement about it some ppl might just avoid it 
Gucci
Popstar



bowie wrote:
Gucci wrote:
bowie wrote:
me too
but kim isnt admin anymore and kaj hasnt said that we can ask him to do it
you can ask Jess tho
thats what i mean its the same thing there hfhshfj jess hasnt publically stated that u can tuen to her
kim made an official thread about it and when she was removed as admin nobody said “ok so this is being handed over to this person so ask them instead” it just got dropped
of course u can just message jess and ask but when theres no “official” statement about it some ppl might just avoid it 
i asked my name for jess many times
Gucci
Popstar



Gucci wrote:
bowie wrote:
Gucci wrote:
you can ask Jess tho
thats what i mean its the same thing there hfhshfj jess hasnt publically stated that u can tuen to her
kim made an official thread about it and when she was removed as admin nobody said “ok so this is being handed over to this person so ask them instead” it just got dropped
of course u can just message jess and ask but when theres no “official” statement about it some ppl might just avoid it 
i asked my name for jess many times
there isnt ''official'' statement but... if u ask her she will delete the old users
Private
World famous



OK I have an idea.

Don't try to address the community alone. Always have Jess or a mod in the thread to delete the nonconstructive and mean comments so that actual constructive comments can be addressed without having to defend himself against people who are just being cruel jackasses. 

Idea for the community: Calling someone names does not make them want to listen to you. I know, it's shocking, but you catch more flies with honey.
Allie
Queen of Pop



Claire wrote:
OK I have an idea.

Don't try to address the community alone. Always have Jess or a mod in the thread to delete the nonconstructive and mean comments so that actual constructive comments can be addressed without having to defend himself against people who are just being cruel jackasses. 

Idea for the community: Calling someone names does not make them want to listen to you. I know, it's shocking, but you catch more flies with honey.

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Claire wrote:
OK I have an idea.

Don't try to address the community alone. Always have Jess or a mod in the thread to delete the nonconstructive and mean comments so that actual constructive comments can be addressed without having to defend himself against people who are just being cruel jackasses. 

Idea for the community: Calling someone names does not make them want to listen to you. I know, it's shocking, but you catch more flies with honey.
I have personally offered to help him with public relations and what to write last time this happened, but he never took me up on it. 
Arsian
International star



Photosynthesis wrote:
Claire wrote:
OK I have an idea.

Don't try to address the community alone. Always have Jess or a mod in the thread to delete the nonconstructive and mean comments so that actual constructive comments can be addressed without having to defend himself against people who are just being cruel jackasses. 

Idea for the community: Calling someone names does not make them want to listen to you. I know, it's shocking, but you catch more flies with honey.
I have personally offered to help him with public relations and what to write last time this happened, but he never took me up on it.
so he should be more accepting to mods' and team members' help when they offer. not just ignore it, or turn down stating a reason WHY he doesn't want that so there can be that 2 way street communication he so fondly mentioned.
Private
Popstar



punch wrote:
vex wrote:
from what ive seen in my time as designer: whenever there was a time when we had like, 5 unused male outfits he used all of them in a week instead of holding some back next week. thats just ..... not very smart. 
but it's nice to get shop updates some times as well :C
thats true, but tbh we dont really need hall of fame outfits
I'd rather have regular shop updates and wof items then an extra outfit that like 3 ig coz males and females share the same winner pool 
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vex wrote:
punch wrote:
vex wrote:
from what ive seen in my time as designer: whenever there was a time when we had like, 5 unused male outfits he used all of them in a week instead of holding some back next week. thats just ..... not very smart. 
but it's nice to get shop updates some times as well :C
thats true, but tbh we dont really need hall of fame outfits
I'd rather have regular shop updates and wof items then an extra outfit that like 3 ig coz males and females share the same winner pool 
yeah that's true
Private
Youtube star



Re designing sprites and stuff in the existing VP games so they don’t look like they were made in like paint in 2005  would be pretty rad
Damjal
World famous



How about a complete makeover, all over the website
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I feel like people were being a little rude and mean to kaj, I understand that people are angry but Damn, people could have been a little bit more understanding especially to the fact that he really opened up a people started indirect/direct attacking him lmao idek why I care but I feel bad because he ended up clicking the threads.

I want people to know though we shouldn’t be horrible about him because without kaj: 
1.The game wouldn’t exist
2.we wouldn’t know eachother 
3. The teams would have been given the chance to take on the responsibilities that they have 
4. Designers probably wouldn’t have been given the chance to create clothing here for people to appreciate and wear 
5. We wouldn’t have been given a chance to Aquire the friends we have, unless you all played the same games like inch or something 

i can understand the frustration but we also have to be greatful.
Eifos
World famous



devilcake wrote:
Re designing sprites and stuff in the existing VP games so they don’t look like they were made in like paint in 2005  would be pretty rad
Maybe people on vp could help with that?
I think it could make a nice competition
Private
Youtube star



Eifos wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Re designing sprites and stuff in the existing VP games so they don’t look like they were made in like paint in 2005  would be pretty rad
Maybe people on vp could help with that?
I think it could make a nice competition
ooooh that is such a neato idea! VP is full of so many creative people, it'd probably end up looking super nice!
Private
World famous



OK I broke down every post from Kaj's thread. Some posts fit into two categories and so were counted that way.

Comments that were just "oh wow" or "lol" nonresponses, swearing, and SNARK: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Comments making fun of Kaj using 'he' on mistake: IIIIII
Comments criticising the profit that we don't even know for sure Kaj makes: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Actual Constructive Criticism said in a mean way: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Actual Constructive Criticism said in a nice way: IIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Comments that point out how dumb everyone was being or defending Kaj: IIIIII
Comments that were just memes probably?: IIIIIIII
Comments making fun of Kaj's poor English skills: IIII
Comments questioning Kaj's Manhood or calling him Child: IIIIII

Feel free to go thru and count the posts up differently. This is how I saw it personally. I might have missed a comment or two, by page seven I was ready to quit counting. 

My point is, it was more mean than nice, it was more useless snark than actual critique. OF course he locked the thread. Ya'll were literally bullying the guy. There were only about five people there who were being mature about the situation. 

Maybe if we actually critiqued instead of just being mean it would have gone differently?
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