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Yoko wrote:
its hard to explain but i think my view  if its simplified  is more like

vvvvvvv spectrum of attraction to someone   vvvvvvvv

passionate love /  crush state  -------------------------------------------------->  pure sexual arousal and attraction

<>>
you dont really necessarily care for them 
but you find them hot
dont have to have a crush
sexual attraction



i dont like explaining this as a spectrum though because i dont think the sides are weighted that way, you can be 100% at both ends within your attraction to somebody . or only at one end entirely.  but i feel everything on that spectrum is a part of sexuality, even if its all the way at the left



does this make sense lol 

disintegration wrote:
So in your spectrum ace people would be on one end but still be somewhere in the sexual part as opposed to like the kinsey scale where they are separated (x)? 

Yoko wrote:
sorry i made an error and corected it in the post  ,  the one you quoted is the old one so im not sure if you read the bit i changed  ; /

Yoko wrote:
i dont really understand separating romance and sexuality

they go together ,  whether you have a low/no sex drive or not,  theyre integrally linked and unless you have 0 romantic attraction and 0 interest in or response to physical sensual touch, you have a sexuality no matter how little part it has in your life

im convinced oversexualisation and pornification of society is just making people feel outcast when they dont live up to the horny porno stereotype thats integrated all forms of media, leaving them feel that theres something missing or that they dont have a sexuality when in fact their sexuality and drive is extremely normal,  and the pornified mass exemplar is the one thats out of the ordinary













ok im just ranting here     i dont know the answer to ur problem

Yoko wrote:
also can i just say   vp seems to have chilled a whole lot on the topics of gender and sexuality and im glad i can actually talk to people without being yelled at and called a bigot for having a different opinion

idk if its because of different people or just people chillin out more but

vp is evolving and im living for it

disintegration wrote:
It all really depends on the phrasing, some people used to be quite patronizing in the way they presented their opinion. 

Yoko wrote:
im not really sure, i used to just keep my mouth shut cause i knew dissenting from popular gender and 3rd wave theory would get me          basically     shot    even though none of my disagreements are personal or insulting, i just have a different understanding after researching and studying for myself

lately i post more though cause i feel people seem more open to listening, idk

disintegration wrote:
I used to state my opinions in threads about said topics quite often and there was always someone saying  basically 'you are wrong and your opinion is naive and you don't know anything' 

One time an attack on my identity followed and they were basically telling me I have a mental disorder. 

Yoko wrote:
i think its ok to disagree with an opinion but it shouldnt get personal     like you shouldnt be called naive even if that person thinks that  .    they should just state their disagreements and move on lol

i think mental disorders is a touchy subject,  but i also think maybe some things are a mental disorder but because of the stigma around not being neurotypical,  even open minded people feel attacked by even a suggestion of it ? so like if someone says they do or are [blank]    and someone thinks thats a sign of a mental disorder   then the initial person sometimes feels attacked even tho suggesting u might not be neurotypical is not an attack. its only an attack if u think not being in the average is a negative ugly thing.   if that makes sense, idk how to explain that.     not saying thats what happened in ur case bc idk what happened but its something that comes to mind from other stuff

disintegration wrote:
Some people won't be happy till anyone agrees with their opinion it seems :/

I am not neurotypical, but they did not know that/it wasn't relevant, related to the subject, it was meant as an insult in order to  deny me any credibility and maturity. I'm okay with people not 'believing' in my gender identity (or absence of said), but calling me mentally ill because of it crosses a line. 

Yoko wrote:
i dont really understand separating romance and sexuality

they go together ,  whether you have a low/no sex drive or not,  theyre integrally linked and unless you have 0 romantic attraction and 0 interest in or response to physical sensual touch, you have a sexuality no matter how little part it has in your life

im convinced oversexualisation and pornification of society is just making people feel outcast when they dont live up to the horny porno stereotype thats integrated all forms of media, leaving them feel that theres something missing or that they dont have a sexuality when in fact their sexuality and drive is extremely normal,  and the pornified mass exemplar is the one thats out of the ordinary













ok im just ranting here     i dont know the answer to ur problem

disintegration wrote:
Some people won't be happy till anyone agrees with their opinion it seems :/

I am not neurotypical, but they did not know that/it wasn't relevant, related to the subject, it was meant as an insult in order to  deny me any credibility and maturity. I'm okay with people not 'believing' in my gender identity (or absence of said), but calling me mentally ill because of it crosses a line. 

Yoko wrote:
this is tru      and unfortunately some people never learn that not everyone will agree,  even in adult hood    its just a fact of life lol

ur right, using it as an insult isnt ok nd i agree with u.