Snusmumrikken wrote:Ahria wrote:
you seem really intelligent and I instantly respect people who are critical and analytical. I like your passion for niche subjects it makes you seem really interesting. I like your honesty and openness to challenge people's opinions despite the consequences of not following the popular opinion but then again you are quite sly when wording things that are against other peoples beliefs haha.
I wish I could voice out my opinions but I honestly hate delving into my personal beliefs and morals like you do but, it makes me feel naked and weird. I stop at sharing my musical tastes and offering counterpoints to further understand someone else's opinion rather than to express my own opinions.
I like that you are constantly willing to discuss and learn and have an open mind to new ideas and you're not short tempered when people aren't as open.
When I challenge an opinion it is not necessarily because I disagree with the opinion, although I would claim that it is no secret that I don't agree with people here all the time. Sometimes I question people's opinions because I want to know why they have concluded as they have, people tend to omit a lot of what they are thinking. For me it makes it look like people jump to conclusions, and that must be questioned.
Agreeing with things just because that happens to be the popular opinion in that exact moment is also questionable, history shows that when people stop being critical to what are served to them as facts and reality things start to become very shady.
I think I might come off as right-wing to some people here because of who I frequent with, and because of what people I appear to side with in a conflict. I would like to take this opportunity to stress that I do not think there are many, if any, that are further to the left than me. I might come off as someone on the other side of the political scale because I question opinions regardless of what side it is on.
I want people's opinions to be mostly grounded in logic, rather than feelings. I might agree with people here on their conclusions, but I might strongly disagree with the way they reached their conclusion. If it is grounded in feelings, emotions or personal experiences without taking into account any aspect of anything that resembles logic, I find it hard to just agree and go on with it. People need to dare to question things, not necessarily to be rude or mean, but because being questioned makes us further dive into the layers of each issue to better understand the situation. An opinion which isn't questioned and just accepted as hard facts without any evidence or convincing arguments are far outside anything I would ever accept.
If you want to become better at wording yourself you could practice, e.g. write down your opinions and come up with various arguments for why you mean it, you might even want to challenge yourself with counter-arguments. We learn better from doing mistakes and being questioned than from withdrawing ourselves into echo chambers where everyone has a uniform opinion and anything outside that uniformity is fiercely shut down as if it was an attempt to personally attack every person affiliated with the opinion.
People on VP unfortunately have a very aggressive way of discussing, which might be uncomfortable for people who have little or no experience on situations like that, if you ever want to share your opinions without being judged you might send me a PM, I will probably answer and I might even argue against it, but I won't do it out of spite, I will do it to learn how you have the opinions you have.
Our backgrounds and the environments we surround ourselves with do influence how we understand and 'read' the world around us, therefore it is healthy to be questioned.
Also discussing opinions with people you don't agree with, even discussing with people you do agree with, is a helpful tool into investigating who we are as persons, and also how other people perceive who we are.
However, unless you want to work on it, you don't have do anything. No one is forcing people to share their opinions, you know. I can fully understand why people are wary of sharing their opinions when they will most likely be attacked from one side or another here, no offence to people on VP obviously, but someone's opinion will always be met with criticism from at least one person. As long as it isn't destructive I don't think it's too harmful, but some issues are to be treated more delicately than others. It is, as you are suggesting, far easier to discuss 'trivial' things as music and entertainment than things like euthanasia and gender identity issues.
Further, I would like to point out that being "naked", or anonymous might even be a good thing on this website, if people have no strong opinions about you it means that people most likely doesn't hate you, and that's good.
I would also say that I am absolutely thrilled that you have a gif from the iconic D12 music video on your profile. 10/10.
@Ahria
Oh that idea if discussing with you sounds really fun...I'm better at talking one to one. I get palpitations over the idea that someone might respond to something that is can be perceived as slightly offensive if you squint your eyes and tilt your head. This website has a lot of 'tribes' that I don't want to be a target of.