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Where is the logic????
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ad0xa wrote:
Paramore wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
No.... you can (read: need)  ask for a certificate from your doctor....  you need to prove that you can't work to your doctor. But that's about it. 

I sent them a certificate from my doctor but the certificate didn't prove enough that I can't work so now I have to try to get Another doctor that I can actually meet and tell why I can't work
so yea you need to prove to Försäkringskassan because they can deny you if they feel you can work.
Everything is run by these certificates you won't get anything without them....  so there's nothing you can do unless you have a doctor that confirms what you are saying. 
?? i don't understand what you mean
a doctor sent them a certificate stating I can't work
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Maitri wrote:
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Maitri wrote:

The name sounds like an insurance company, but I don't know how that stuff works in sweden. You should probably get some help from someone who knows about those kind of practical stuff.
I've got no one to help me

No parents? A support person or a teacher you trust?

nope
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You need like a social worker. Like a patient advocate or something. Idk what it would be called where you are but you need someone to help you with this stuff. 
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Claire wrote:
You need like a social worker. Like a patient advocate or something. Idk what it would be called where you are but you need someone to help you with this stuff. 

I don't see how that would make a difference or how I would get someone else to help, Försäkringskassan are still gonna decide whatever they want
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Paramore wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
Paramore wrote:

I sent them a certificate from my doctor but the certificate didn't prove enough that I can't work so now I have to try to get Another doctor that I can actually meet and tell why I can't work
so yea you need to prove to Försäkringskassan because they can deny you if they feel you can work.
Everything is run by these certificates you won't get anything without them....  so there's nothing you can do unless you have a doctor that confirms what you are saying. 
?? i don't understand what you mean
a doctor sent them a certificate stating I can't work
Well okay, either försäkringskassan is saying that the text in that document isn't proving anything (basically that they don't belive the doctor) ... which honestly sounds really weird bc I've never ever met officials that question doctor certificates??? (including all of my friends that is actually on försäkringskassan's money) 
But anyways.
Then you'll need to go back to your doctor and explain what försäkringskassan said, or go to another doctor. And tell them what försäkringskassan said. More specifically.... they did say something more specific than "no "  right? If not, can you ask them? Bc you kind of need to know their reasoning if they deny you without any ground. 
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You have given them the doctor's certificate right? 
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You can also request a meeting with försäkringskassan AND your doctor on the same place. (ask your doctor first tho... )
I've had meetings like that, tho it was with soc... but I'm pretty sure you can have them with försäkringskassan too.... having them basically talk to your doctor face to face. 
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And remember that your diagnosis papers isn't the same as a certificate for not being able to work, EVEN if it states in that diagnos paper that you will most likely not be able to work.... you still need a new note from the doctor for the specific thing (in this case, försäkringskassan) 
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ad0xa wrote:
Paramore wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
Everything is run by these certificates you won't get anything without them....  so there's nothing you can do unless you have a doctor that confirms what you are saying. 
?? i don't understand what you mean
a doctor sent them a certificate stating I can't work
Well okay, either försäkringskassan is saying that the text in that document isn't proving anything (basically that they don't belive the doctor) ... which honestly sounds really weird bc I've never ever met officials that question doctor certificates??? (including all of my friends that is actually on försäkringskassan's money) 
But anyways.
Then you'll need to go back to your doctor and explain what försäkringskassan said, or go to another doctor. And tell them what försäkringskassan said. More specifically.... they did say something more specific than "no "  right? If not, can you ask them? Bc you kind of need to know their reasoning if they deny you without any ground. 
I don't Think the certificate proves enough though, like the doctor just wrote down what's in my journal 'cause I couldn't meet him so a lot of what I said in the interview with Försäkringskassan isn't in there It just sucks they would interview me but in the end it doesn't even matter what I say
So I have to find Another doctor I can actually meet up with but idk how long that's gonna take since I haven't even been accepted to psych yet

They basically wrote down Everything from the doctors certificate and said I had problems with (which were only half of the things tbh)
"and this is the reason you've been denied"
they basically said the reasons stated by doctors aren't valid enough that I can't work kind of
even though I had a 30 minute interview with them on the phone explaining other things also that weren't in the certificate

It would have made it easier if the doctor would have at least called me over the phone or something but when I got the certificate it still felt like I wouldn't get denied because i felt it was enough in there but i guess not

sorry this is really long yikes
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ad0xa wrote:
You can also request a meeting with försäkringskassan AND your doctor on the same place. (ask your doctor first tho... )
I've had meetings like that, tho it was with soc... but I'm pretty sure you can have them with försäkringskassan too.... having them basically talk to your doctor face to face. 

that's not really an option
I haven't even talked to the doctor that wrote the certificate which is just one of many problems

I live in skåne but I still belong to psych in Uppsala but the adress I'm written on is my moms in Norrköping so yea it all has to be done over the phone to everyone
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Well okay then the problem is pretty obvious XD

you need to change your fucking doctor yeah. 
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It sucks that it's so hard to have problems... :/

But well. Like I always say. All you can do is keep on fighting. Y__Y 
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ad0xa wrote:
It sucks that it's so hard to have problems... :/

But well. Like I always say. All you can do is keep on fighting. Y__Y 

yea kommunen and försäkringskassan only seem to make it harder for me when it already is hard smh
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Paramore wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
It sucks that it's so hard to have problems... :/

But well. Like I always say. All you can do is keep on fighting. Y__Y 

yea kommunen and försäkringskassan only seem to make it harder for me when it already is hard smh
I know how it is. But since I almost got evicted (like,......  7 years ago) bc I was afraid to open the mail.... I've had a "god man" and it has really helped me A LOT. You should look into it if you can.
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ad0xa wrote:
Paramore wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
It sucks that it's so hard to have problems... :/

But well. Like I always say. All you can do is keep on fighting. Y__Y 

yea kommunen and försäkringskassan only seem to make it harder for me when it already is hard smh
I know how it is. But since I almost got evicted (like,......  7 years ago) bc I was afraid to open the mail.... I've had a "god man" and it has really helped me A LOT. You should look into it if you can.
we were supposed to apply for one last summer but idk what happened with that
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