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bexxi wrote:

Teabag wrote:

Olympus wrote:
Also how do her fans not feel like she's taking the piss at this point??? selling them different versions of the same album that hasn't had a single release and the only thing that's changed is the cover?

mind you none of the covers are groundbreaking but she knows they're gonna buy it anyway, i can't imagine buying 5 vinyls for diff covers and then hating every song lmao

Welcome to kpop culture

i was gonna say thats so kpop of her
but she doesnt even give u photocards !!!

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Heartbroken wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Heartbroken wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:
what is happening with this thread... op just ranted about getting a lot of ts content and not liking it and got called sexist in return.....

i have not called op sexist, not once.

I think you might be ignoring that there are other people in this thread making their own commentary that is being responded to...idk though

Im not ignoring anything, but i cannot speak for others than myself

Olympus
Popstar

Olympus wrote:

whydoiexist wrote:
i also have been getting a lot of ppl making fun of her lyrics and talking about old lyrics and shit and like... her music always has been like that ppl are just now paying attention bc it wasnt what they expected from the album

And in ways i agree with them! I honestly would have expected something different and more in line with a showgirl- something fun and different than her usual. i actually was intrigued by how she would even approach being a showgirl because it's very notoriously flashy and fun. , but she gave the same music she always does which is the issue because where is the artistic growth? to ME it feels like shilling the same album she has been for years , for heavy monetary gain with no regards to her fans.

Olympus
Popstar

Olympus wrote:

Heartbroken wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Heartbroken wrote:
i have not called op sexist, not once.

I think you might be ignoring that there are other people in this thread making their own commentary that is being responded to...idk though

Im not ignoring anything, but i cannot speak for others than myself

So then...I fear i'm not really understanding replying to something that wasn't aimed at you, as if it was

sorry

Olympus
Popstar

Olympus wrote:

bexxi wrote:

Teabag wrote:

Olympus wrote:
Also how do her fans not feel like she's taking the piss at this point??? selling them different versions of the same album that hasn't had a single release and the only thing that's changed is the cover?

mind you none of the covers are groundbreaking but she knows they're gonna buy it anyway, i can't imagine buying 5 vinyls for diff covers and then hating every song lmao

Welcome to kpop culture

i was gonna say thats so kpop of her
but she doesnt even give u photocards !!!

it is very kpop coded! not fully baked though

Olympus
Popstar

Olympus wrote:

Miguel wrote:
i hate her i dont think she's a good songwriter and im tired of people pretending she's shakespeare II . she's a bad person, as any other billionare, and she is boring

She is VERY boring, its like no one wants you to say it but she is. and in the past 10 years i haven't witnessed some significant artistic growth. I find it crazy that an artists will shill the same album over and over again because they know their fans will buy it, not because they put their heart into it and this is some work they really believe in.

and to that point ( i didn't even know she was a billionaire, what for??) if she is a billionaire why tf does she need to release a million variants of an album with no single beforehand as if she's hungry for the coins

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Miguel wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Miguel wrote:
i hate her i dont think she's a good songwriter and im tired of people pretending she's shakespeare II . she's a bad person, as any other billionare, and she is boring

She is VERY boring, its like no one wants you to say it but she is. and in the past 10 years i haven't witnessed some significant artistic growth. I find it crazy that an artists will shill the same album over and over again because they know their fans will buy it, not because they put their heart into it and this is some work they really believe in.

and to that point ( i didn't even know she was a billionaire, what for??) if she is a billionaire why tf does she need to release a million variants of an album with no single beforehand as if she's hungry for the coins

yes i don't think most artists are super creative nor super unique in their songwriting, but im tired of seeing how they treat her as if she were the greatest songwriter alive. she does have good songs, but mostly because they're catchy, not necessarily because she writes some deep, meaningful music. i wouldnt dare saying who does that currently, but she is def not an example. and yeah certain fans will buy her or other artists music regardless if they actually like what they have been given, just because they love that artist

her current net worth is around 1.600 million dollars . i believe no one who's rich, especially if they're rich as her or more, will ever see their money as just enough to not want more and more

MissLondon
World famous

MissLondon wrote:
I tuned out a long time ago because all the songs
sound the same. I do this with any artist tho lol

I think it would be interesting if she did a collab
with a metal/latin/rap artist and not something familiar like jellybean

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devilcake wrote:

Olympus wrote:

devilcake wrote:

Hauru wrote:
well yea cause the topic is about her if it was harry styles i wouldve said the same

M but the topic is also just basic ugh i have to hear this pop music I don’t like that’s loved largely by women and made by a woman

Okay so...I am a woman and listen mostly to women....i just do not like taylor swift. I find the practices predatory from all artists but she has a level of fame that others don't that causes me to hear about her more than i feel like i should

does that help?

Yeah i mean i dont disagree that these are issues with her but coming from it from a perspective of just complaining about swifties and people being fans of her and all that. I don’t think ur sexist btw I just think it’s kinda meh n something we should all consider more when celebs and media in general

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devilcake wrote:

Miguel wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Miguel wrote:
i hate her i dont think she's a good songwriter and im tired of people pretending she's shakespeare II . she's a bad person, as any other billionare, and she is boring

She is VERY boring, its like no one wants you to say it but she is. and in the past 10 years i haven't witnessed some significant artistic growth. I find it crazy that an artists will shill the same album over and over again because they know their fans will buy it, not because they put their heart into it and this is some work they really believe in.

and to that point ( i didn't even know she was a billionaire, what for??) if she is a billionaire why tf does she need to release a million variants of an album with no single beforehand as if she's hungry for the coins

yes i don't think most artists are super creative nor super unique in their songwriting, but im tired of seeing how they treat her as if she were the greatest songwriter alive. she does have good songs, but mostly because they're catchy, not necessarily because she writes some deep, meaningful music. i wouldnt dare saying who does that currently, but she is def not an example. and yeah certain fans will buy her or other artists music regardless if they actually like what they have been given, just because they love that artist

her current net worth is around 1.600 million dollars . i believe no one who's rich, especially if they're rich as her or more, will ever see their money as just enough to not want more and more

I think part of why people defend her as like some sort of super artist is in part because of all the hate she has gotten over the years like the reaction has caused fans to become more passionate about her tbh

Olympus
Popstar

Olympus wrote:

Miguel wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Miguel wrote:
i hate her i dont think she's a good songwriter and im tired of people pretending she's shakespeare II . she's a bad person, as any other billionare, and she is boring

She is VERY boring, its like no one wants you to say it but she is. and in the past 10 years i haven't witnessed some significant artistic growth. I find it crazy that an artists will shill the same album over and over again because they know their fans will buy it, not because they put their heart into it and this is some work they really believe in.

and to that point ( i didn't even know she was a billionaire, what for??) if she is a billionaire why tf does she need to release a million variants of an album with no single beforehand as if she's hungry for the coins

yes i don't think most artists are super creative nor super unique in their songwriting, but im tired of seeing how they treat her as if she were the greatest songwriter alive. she does have good songs, but mostly because they're catchy, not necessarily because she writes some deep, meaningful music. i wouldnt dare saying who does that currently, but she is def not an example. and yeah certain fans will buy her or other artists music regardless if they actually like what they have been given, just because they love that artist

her current net worth is around 1.600 million dollars . i believe no one who's rich, especially if they're rich as her or more, will ever see their money as just enough to not want more and more

Exactly, her last groundbreaking work to me personally is the RED album. it was whimsical and illustrative but everything since maybe reputation has been the same song over and over again. No other artist is being pushed as this great one of a kind songwriter in the same way as her and it's weird.

I can't imagine what she even needs that for, any celebrity. I would maybe understand if she had brands or something that needed capital but its like what do you need more and more and more for as someone who IS their brand

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devilcake wrote:
Also like the sexist aspects is not about her or her feelings I don’t give a shit about her but there is a huge tendency to accept dismissal of ”bad” womens interests to be considered like the cool mature opinion to have

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devilcake wrote:
N again I don’t think anyone here is sexist or whatever I just think it’s worth mentioning, cause I used to be like that tm n now I’m feeling kinda gross about it

Olympus
Popstar

Olympus wrote:

devilcake wrote:

Olympus wrote:

devilcake wrote:
M but the topic is also just basic ugh i have to hear this pop music I don’t like that’s loved largely by women and made by a woman

Okay so...I am a woman and listen mostly to women....i just do not like taylor swift. I find the practices predatory from all artists but she has a level of fame that others don't that causes me to hear about her more than i feel like i should

does that help?

Yeah i mean i dont disagree that these are issues with her but coming from it from a perspective of just complaining about swifties and people being fans of her and all that. I don’t think ur sexist btw I just think it’s kinda meh n something we should all consider more when celebs and media in general

I didn't complain about swifties. I complained about seeing TS all over the place with the addition that her fans hate her album and regular people are the ones posting about that. adding to what i'm seeing in unlikely places and from unlikely people thus, seeing an excess of TS content.

I mean you brought up the sexism when it wasn't part of my conversation or upsets at all. boiling it down to hearing "pop music from women and loved by women" and it feels there is some assumptions to where my discontent is stemming from as opposed to...just what i wrote.

I understand that you are reworking your own prior takes and opinions but I have done that work ages and ages ago and am able to just dislike her and her practices

Olympus
Popstar

Olympus wrote:

MissLondon wrote:
I tuned out a long time ago because all the songs
sound the same. I do this with any artist tho lol

I think it would be interesting if she did a collab
with a metal/latin/rap artist and not something familiar like jellybean

I did as well! after a point it gets repetitive and when there's a release every year for the same old song it's like alright...take a break and come back with something new. i feel the same way about Drake. two people who monopolize the market and refuse to take a break gracefully

it would be very interesting but her brand is returning to a very conservative state, so i don't think she'll take the risk.