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are men more okay with being objectified?
EtherealPJM
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EtherealPJM wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think a reason that they might b more reluctant to aknowledging it is happening to them is because its seen as more normal and non threatening for a woman to act like a creep than a man too. Like the whole "what if the roles were reversed" thing, like seeing on tiktok men objectifying women will get hated on in most cases, but women objectifying men is seen as smth funny, not harmful whatsoever, completely ok
men can get objectified, especially gay men, fujoshi's are a huge problem in our society rn and they just oversexualize and objectify gay men as much as they can, it's just really gross and harmful. a lot of fujoshi's i've seen are literal minors (11-13, maybe older) and grown women. 
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:12 | Times changed: 1
Jisatsu
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Jisatsu wrote:
my take on this:
women have to fight to be valued for their talents, men have to fight for their feelings being valid.
so many males i know surpress their feelings?
yes, they have less of a problem with objectification. yes, their talents get taken more seriously. but thre still seems to be a problem if a male wants to express their feelings

women who show emotions will be called names, but at least we are allowed to show emotion and its more acceptable if we cry
ive literally never seen a man or boy cry irl

(mainly talking about cis/het people here)
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:13 | Times changed: 1
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ouch wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think a reason that they might b more reluctant to aknowledging it is happening to them is because its seen as more normal and non threatening for a woman to act like a creep than a man too. Like the whole "what if the roles were reversed" thing, like seeing on tiktok men objectifying women will get hated on in most cases, but women objectifying men is seen as smth funny, not harmful whatsoever, completely ok
i do think the patriarchy helps women in this case, we are seen as less threatening so obviously men don't take it seriously. that's also why female rapists and abusers are often let off the hook. when a female pedophile sleeps with a boy , other men are like ' he must be lucky to get laid so early' as opposed to ' that's disgusting'
Yeah, stuff is bad. Bad for men cus they don't get taken seriously (getting raped, objectified, etc etc), and bad for women because they r seen as non threatening.
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:13
Koolaid
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Koolaid wrote:
i think also another fact is that men don't like to be seen as victims, especially not when the perpetrators are women. it's seen as weak, and because of toxic masculinity, even if they're uncomfortable with it, they won't say it
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:13
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ouch wrote:
ElaVampire wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think a reason that they might b more reluctant to aknowledging it is happening to them is because its seen as more normal and non threatening for a woman to act like a creep than a man too. Like the whole "what if the roles were reversed" thing, like seeing on tiktok men objectifying women will get hated on in most cases, but women objectifying men is seen as smth funny, not harmful whatsoever, completely ok
men can get objectified, especially gay men, fujoshi's are a huge problem in our society rn and they just oversexualize and objectify gay men as much as they can, it's just really gross and harmful. a lot of fujoshi's i've seen are literal minors (11-13, maybe older) and grown women. 
Yeah no I agree
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:14
EtherealPJM
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EtherealPJM wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think a reason that they might b more reluctant to aknowledging it is happening to them is because its seen as more normal and non threatening for a woman to act like a creep than a man too. Like the whole "what if the roles were reversed" thing, like seeing on tiktok men objectifying women will get hated on in most cases, but women objectifying men is seen as smth funny, not harmful whatsoever, completely ok
i do think the patriarchy helps women in this case, we are seen as less threatening so obviously men don't take it seriously. that's also why female rapists and abusers are often let off the hook. when a female pedophile sleeps with a boy , other men are like ' he must be lucky to get laid so early' as opposed to ' that's disgusting'
yeah, I don't think we should let these women get away with things like this, r*pe, abuse, and p*dophilia. they need to be punished or arrested for these things, not just let off the hook because they're a woman
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:14
EtherealPJM
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EtherealPJM wrote:
ElaVampire wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think a reason that they might b more reluctant to aknowledging it is happening to them is because its seen as more normal and non threatening for a woman to act like a creep than a man too. Like the whole "what if the roles were reversed" thing, like seeing on tiktok men objectifying women will get hated on in most cases, but women objectifying men is seen as smth funny, not harmful whatsoever, completely ok
i do think the patriarchy helps women in this case, we are seen as less threatening so obviously men don't take it seriously. that's also why female rapists and abusers are often let off the hook. when a female pedophile sleeps with a boy , other men are like ' he must be lucky to get laid so early' as opposed to ' that's disgusting'
yeah, I don't think we should let these women get away with things like this, r*pe, abuse, and p*dophilia. they need to be punished or arrested for these things, not just let off the hook because they're a woman
Robert Downey junior was abused by his ex wife Amber Heard, but nobody really believed him at first, they let her off the hook even though she abused her girlfriend/wife in the past.
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:16
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ouch wrote:
ouch wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think a reason that they might b more reluctant to aknowledging it is happening to them is because its seen as more normal and non threatening for a woman to act like a creep than a man too. Like the whole "what if the roles were reversed" thing, like seeing on tiktok men objectifying women will get hated on in most cases, but women objectifying men is seen as smth funny, not harmful whatsoever, completely ok
i do think the patriarchy helps women in this case, we are seen as less threatening so obviously men don't take it seriously. that's also why female rapists and abusers are often let off the hook. when a female pedophile sleeps with a boy , other men are like ' he must be lucky to get laid so early' as opposed to ' that's disgusting'
Yeah, stuff is bad. Bad for men cus they don't get taken seriously (getting raped, objectified, etc etc), and bad for women because they r seen as non threatening.
Also bad for everyone in general when women r seen as innocent and men seen as bad, in like a crime situation, or divorce situation where the mother is first in line to get their kid. I don't rememebr what country this was in (either america or norway, big diff but) but a couple had a kid n they seperated, the mom got custody even tho the dad said she was not a good mom etc etc, he and multiple friends later reported the woman to child services cus thye believed the child was in danger, they didn't care cus she was a woman probably n he was a man, and then he ended up going to her house to pick up the kid to have it one weekend, and finds the mom had killed the kid and herself. Like obv an extreme case but god
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:17
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ouch wrote:
ElaVampire wrote:
ElaVampire wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
i do think the patriarchy helps women in this case, we are seen as less threatening so obviously men don't take it seriously. that's also why female rapists and abusers are often let off the hook. when a female pedophile sleeps with a boy , other men are like ' he must be lucky to get laid so early' as opposed to ' that's disgusting'
yeah, I don't think we should let these women get away with things like this, r*pe, abuse, and p*dophilia. they need to be punished or arrested for these things, not just let off the hook because they're a woman
Robert Downey junior was abused by his ex wife Amber Heard, but nobody really believed him at first, they let her off the hook even though she abused her girlfriend/wife in the past.
She abused him too ?? And still nobody wanted to believe it when johnny depp said smth bout it. Bah
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:19
EtherealPJM
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EtherealPJM wrote:
ouch wrote:
ouch wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
i do think the patriarchy helps women in this case, we are seen as less threatening so obviously men don't take it seriously. that's also why female rapists and abusers are often let off the hook. when a female pedophile sleeps with a boy , other men are like ' he must be lucky to get laid so early' as opposed to ' that's disgusting'
Yeah, stuff is bad. Bad for men cus they don't get taken seriously (getting raped, objectified, etc etc), and bad for women because they r seen as non threatening.
Also bad for everyone in general when women r seen as innocent and men seen as bad, in like a crime situation, or divorce situation where the mother is first in line to get their kid. I don't rememebr what country this was in (either america or norway, big diff but) but a couple had a kid n they seperated, the mom got custody even tho the dad said she was not a good mom etc etc, he and multiple friends later reported the woman to child services cus thye believed the child was in danger, they didn't care cus she was a woman probably n he was a man, and then he ended up going to her house to pick up the kid to have it one weekend, and finds the mom had killed the kid and herself. Like obv an extreme case but god
yeah! there's a huge problem with not trusting the fathers and just trusting the mothers, the mother isn't always an angel, she could be a danger to the child. it's best to start listening to the fathers sometimes.
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:20
SweetLapis
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SweetLapis wrote:
The only thing I can make sense of this is, society generally doesn't seem to take problems like these with men seriously. Just look at how men generally don't go admitting they've been abused in any way whether by the hands of another man or woman since they are not taken seriously compared to when a woman speaks out about these things. Plus, woman are generally looked upon as nurturing angels who can do no wrong, which we know to be false. Pretty sure men hate it just as much as a woman does, but they see no point in saying anything about it since they'll likely face shit for it. Pretty sad.
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:27
Murdurur
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murdurur wrote:
i get the impression some men want to be more objectified because it's a turn on lol
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:29
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kruspersille wrote:
this is kinda interesting actually
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Date: 02-04-2021 16:38
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Idk i usually try to ignore thinking that personally. Sexualizing men etc is like... So normal and mmh. Idk. It is kinda stressful when old women look at me with burning fire of their will to touch me... Idk, it makes me very uncomfy.



I've got old ladies to come dance with me a bars and trying to flirt me.

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This happened when I were 18. I were there with my current fwb (also a guy) and there were woman(if i remember correctly she were age 47) who were first trying to flirt with my fwb (also 18 ). Then she once watched me to eyes and then got obsessed with me and my "deep looking eyes" and tried that whole time get me touch her sexually and when we were saying that she could "check us with one touch" or something. When we were leaving there she tried to group with us but we said that we wanna leave without her. I lived like other side of the road from that bar and she seemed to wanna follow us so I gave her kiss to the lips when she continued to wanna "even a kiss". Then we left and she did not follow us but it were very stressful and that is the reason why i don't like to go nearest bar from where i live :--) i don't wanna creepy old ladies know where i live :---)

I know that old men being creepy to young girls is more usual but can say that old women to be creepy to young boys is 100% happening. And understanding to it be uncomfy to boys is happening so much less. "Men always want it".

Also, guys have some kind of obsession to lesbians but gay guy obsession with some straight girls is not beautiful to see

And there is such a thing as "men's sexuality" more than like bi, straight and gay. I feel like women have got so much sexual positivity and fetish normalization. But when we talk about men. They are just perverted. But women are strong. And that is great. But why still men usually are just perverted. To gay men it is somehow better. But straight men, poor straight men
Date: 02-04-2021 17:03 | Times changed: 1
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Why is it okay to say "hot" to men's abs but not to women's?
Why is it okay that men are "fuckable" but from women that is not?
Why you can comment casually men's bodies but not women's?
Date: 02-04-2021 17:08
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