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Alam
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Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
yeah but how is your self-esteem overall? are you kind to yourself? are you happy with yourself? what is it that is in your way of feeling ok with the way you are? you sound like an intelligent individual who's struggling with perfectionism and low self esteem
i saw you're seeing a psychologist and that's good, what kind of treatment are you doing? or are you medicated only?
I see both a psychologist and psychiatrist, I'm heavily medicated and reliant on that medication, which I'm completely fine with. My psychologist works with cbt I think? Also animal therapy, which is nice. I've been treated for my mental health for the past uhh 6 years of my life? So since I was 12. It's only gotten worse though uwu.
do you feel like you've made progress with therapy? you're quite young so a lot of these things will get better with time as you learn from mistakes, you're also in a period right now where you stop being treated like a child and have to become an adult,, it's a tough period so a lot of these feelings of having to work, doing things in general is very overwhelming and it's normal
take this up with your psychologist, i think it will help
No.
I feel better being 18 though, not worse, I like having authority over my own life, if anything I feel better now that I do.
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are you miserable because you have the obligation of going to work (or even school, generally just being tied to a duty) and you'd rather be home or you don't like where you are in life?

this is probably not the ideal thing to say right now but i'm assuming most people don't necessarily enjoy their job, it's a matter of being able to not focus on your emotions in a professional setting and knowing working sows necessary seeds for the future (paying your bills, etc.), maybe you could ask your therapist how to regulate your emotions at work? also i think it'd be good for you to start with working at said program despite your pride.

also have you checked your physical health because sometimes that feeling of physically being unable to do stuff seems purely mental but would probably improve if there is any underlying health issue that could easily affect your brain chemistry.
Alam
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hmm wrote:
are you miserable because you have the obligation of going to work (or even school, generally just being tied to a duty) and you'd rather be home or you don't like where you are in life?

this is probably not the ideal thing to say right now but i'm assuming most people don't necessarily enjoy their job, it's a matter of being able to not focus on your emotions in a professional setting and knowing working sows necessary seeds for the future (paying your bills, etc.), maybe you could ask your therapist how to regulate your emotions at work? also i think it'd be good for you to start with working at said program despite your pride.

also have you checked your physical health because sometimes that feeling of physically being unable to do stuff seems purely mental but would probably improve if there is any underlying health issue that could easily affect your brain chemistry.
I don't know man, I just am lmao
I know a lot of people don't necessarily like working but I have to imagine most people don't want to kill themselves.
Uhhh probably not I'm pretty healthy other than having a shit diet and not exercising, which might affect my mood a bit but not as much as people like to say. "Oh you should eat better and exercise more" Fuck off, if I could I would.
Private
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Alam wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Does your country have infrastructure for like jobs mentally ill people can do?

It's easier if people don't expect you to live up to healthy people's standards.
Yes very much so, we have what's called a "safe factory" it's basically a work environment built for people with mental illnesses. I'm working on getting disability rom the government so I can go to this program for people my age with mental illnesses and for the first month I'll have to work at one. 
I could theoretically work at one but. Pride. I know for a fact that I have above average intelligence (this isn't me bragging, I don't feel smart I just know that for a fact because of all of the diagnoses I've had) so not being able to translate that into functioning like a normal person uhhh feels like shit. I have big dreams you know, I want to volunteer like most people in my country do at this stage in their lives. I want ot get a higher education, I want to study medicine, I want to build a life for myself but I physically can't and it fucking sucks.
Maybe just take it one step at a time and try it?

Is money the thing stopping you from getting higher education? Maybe there are programs that support mentally ill people to go to university and give them specific conditions like less courses per semester or something?

It is similar here that they have more programs for disabled people with below average intelligence than for those with average or above, so that really sucks.


I would try to communicate your wishes and limits/boundaries very clearly and be very insistent, maybe you can get the system to work for you if you push hard enough


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How I survived working horrible jobs...I had no other motivation than being able to pay the bills. 
Though with school work overload, I had to stop working for my mental health and trying to get help for that, but my uni sucks. (:

But working with your mental health is honestly more important to do and if there are any jobs or programs for people with mental illness, try to get into those. Just take your time, don't try to rush things too fast. I'm sure you will be able to achieve things you want in the future. 
Alam
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Sylvan wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Does your country have infrastructure for like jobs mentally ill people can do?

It's easier if people don't expect you to live up to healthy people's standards.
Yes very much so, we have what's called a "safe factory" it's basically a work environment built for people with mental illnesses. I'm working on getting disability rom the government so I can go to this program for people my age with mental illnesses and for the first month I'll have to work at one. 
I could theoretically work at one but. Pride. I know for a fact that I have above average intelligence (this isn't me bragging, I don't feel smart I just know that for a fact because of all of the diagnoses I've had) so not being able to translate that into functioning like a normal person uhhh feels like shit. I have big dreams you know, I want to volunteer like most people in my country do at this stage in their lives. I want ot get a higher education, I want to study medicine, I want to build a life for myself but I physically can't and it fucking sucks.
Maybe just take it one step at a time and try it?

Is money the thing stopping you from getting higher education? Maybe there are programs that support mentally ill people to go to university and give them specific conditions like less courses per semester or something?

It is similar here that they have more programs for disabled people with below average intelligence than for those with average or above, so that really sucks.


I would try to communicate your wishes and limits/boundaries very clearly and be very insistent, maybe you can get the system to work for you if you push hard enough
No, not having a high school diploma is what's stopping me. Which is a result of mental illness.
Yeah, you're right, if I want to continue working rather than need to, I should do it on my own terms or not at all.
Alam
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Random wrote:
How I survived working horrible jobs...I had no other motivation than being able to pay the bills. 
Though with school work overload, I had to stop working for my mental health and trying to get help for that, but my uni sucks. (:

But working with your mental health is honestly more important to do and if there are any jobs or programs for people with mental illness, try to get into those. Just take your time, don't try to rush things too fast. I'm sure you will be able to achieve things you want in the future. 
I live at home so that's not an issue.
Thing is I can't just "take the time to focus on working on my mental health" or whatever cutesy shit people say because I've been dwelling in my own bullshit for 6 years and at this rate I won't have a future if I don't do something.
Private
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Alam wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Alam wrote:
Yes very much so, we have what's called a "safe factory" it's basically a work environment built for people with mental illnesses. I'm working on getting disability rom the government so I can go to this program for people my age with mental illnesses and for the first month I'll have to work at one. 
I could theoretically work at one but. Pride. I know for a fact that I have above average intelligence (this isn't me bragging, I don't feel smart I just know that for a fact because of all of the diagnoses I've had) so not being able to translate that into functioning like a normal person uhhh feels like shit. I have big dreams you know, I want to volunteer like most people in my country do at this stage in their lives. I want ot get a higher education, I want to study medicine, I want to build a life for myself but I physically can't and it fucking sucks.
Maybe just take it one step at a time and try it?

Is money the thing stopping you from getting higher education? Maybe there are programs that support mentally ill people to go to university and give them specific conditions like less courses per semester or something?

It is similar here that they have more programs for disabled people with below average intelligence than for those with average or above, so that really sucks.


I would try to communicate your wishes and limits/boundaries very clearly and be very insistent, maybe you can get the system to work for you if you push hard enough
No, not having a high school diploma is what's stopping me. Which is a result of mental illness.
Yeah, you're right, if I want to continue working rather than need to, I should do it on my own terms or not at all.
Can you get your diploma with like online school or something?
I would bring up your wishes and needs the next time you talk to a social worker or like someone who can tell you what is possible withing those social support system structures


Alam
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Sylvan wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Maybe just take it one step at a time and try it?

Is money the thing stopping you from getting higher education? Maybe there are programs that support mentally ill people to go to university and give them specific conditions like less courses per semester or something?

It is similar here that they have more programs for disabled people with below average intelligence than for those with average or above, so that really sucks.


I would try to communicate your wishes and limits/boundaries very clearly and be very insistent, maybe you can get the system to work for you if you push hard enough
No, not having a high school diploma is what's stopping me. Which is a result of mental illness.
Yeah, you're right, if I want to continue working rather than need to, I should do it on my own terms or not at all.
Can you get your diploma with like online school or something?
I would bring up your wishes and needs the next time you talk to a social worker or like someone who can tell you what is possible withing those social support system structures
I've tried every possible type of school at this point, I don't think it's happening any time soon, if at all.
My social worker/ the woman who is/was responsible for my case with the ministry of education is a fucking cunt who didn't do her damn job. I didn't go to school for a combined what, 4 years? I've seen her maybe twice during that time. I have friends who haven't attended school properly for half a year and have seen their case manager more. I saw her like 3 times this year because I tired to start going to this program that she has to come to to help me get into and she's such a smug asshole I HATE HER. Anyway, my experience with social workers in general isn't great. I know they're often overworked and underpaid but that doesn't mean they have to be absolute cunts I'm sorry
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Misjel wrote:
It's very individual and it's great that you are trying, 8 hours a day is probably more than what you would spend at school 

if you want the money what if you started out with doing shorter shifts and/or less frequently? What kind of work would you see yourself doing? ultimately having smth to do can improve your well being but maybe the fast fashion store isn't the right fit, like, you enjoyed working at the craft store
this. 

and ur not a little bitch
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I obviously don't know everything about your situation, but I was in a similar one a few months ago. Basically what made a huge difference for me was medication, but also stopping trying to work while focusing on myself (I was on uddannelseshjælp (money from the government for young people who cant do work)). Realising and accepting your quote on quote "limitations", and working from there might be the best way to go. 
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Sobbing wrote:
Limbs wrote:
maybe you're just not well enough to work at the moment? you're not a little bitch, you have an illness
yes but mental illness is not as visible as a broken leg, i think op struggles with the feeling of shame over not being good enough/normal

i think it's less about the actual work but the state you're in, and as you say yourself, you're not in a good state, you have to forgive yourself and be empathetic towards yourself,, work on your mental state before you take on work imo
there's always something deeper
yes? and i'm trying to reassure them that it's ok and nothing to feel ashamed about? 
Private
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Alam wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Alam wrote:
No, not having a high school diploma is what's stopping me. Which is a result of mental illness.
Yeah, you're right, if I want to continue working rather than need to, I should do it on my own terms or not at all.
Can you get your diploma with like online school or something?
I would bring up your wishes and needs the next time you talk to a social worker or like someone who can tell you what is possible withing those social support system structures
I've tried every possible type of school at this point, I don't think it's happening any time soon, if at all.
My social worker/ the woman who is/was responsible for my case with the ministry of education is a fucking cunt who didn't do her damn job. I didn't go to school for a combined what, 4 years? I've seen her maybe twice during that time. I have friends who haven't attended school properly for half a year and have seen their case manager more. I saw her like 3 times this year because I tired to start going to this program that she has to come to to help me get into and she's such a smug asshole I HATE HER. Anyway, my experience with social workers in general isn't great. I know they're often overworked and underpaid but that doesn't mean they have to be absolute cunts I'm sorry
hm

can you request another one? The people who are in a position to help you being assholes who don't do their job is the reason why so many people are left behind and it sucks.



Alam
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Okay so I told the boss I wanted to work 3 shifts a week instead of four. She said that wasn't an option. I don't know what to do, she wants me to work tomorrow from 8 am, I don't think I can  handle that. I'll just go cry now I guess lol
Alam
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Man fuck, they had me sign a contract, I don't know if I can even quit FUCK
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