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the left's appetite for violence
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Sylvan wrote:
hungover wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
hungover wrote:
But maybe it's more extreme in Germany, the german police/ government is trying to tear down all anarchist squats currently, so generally speaking, I think the German leftists are angrier than most currently. Not that that excuses enjoying violence, that's gross no matter what.
They forcefully removed some squatters on private houses, that's true. Those groups are rather small though and there is a lot of infighting in the german left, especially in politics (the left party was recently criticized for not speaking up against putin, rightfully so because fuck sarah wagenknecht)
It's all very disorganized and shadowy at the moment, which profits the conservative parts of the country.

The german left has a lot of history compared to other countries, nowadays it lost its focus on worker's rights unfortunately. We have this super stupid debate about gender-neutral language at the moment instead of people not being able to afford a house despite working 40hrs a week.
From the protest my friends and I went to in Berlin, it was Köpi platz, before that it was Liebeg (spelling?) Those were both established leftist places, not private housing. I believe Rigaer is next, sadly.
Liebig 34? That was private property (at least in the books), the squatters even wanted to buy it but the owners didn't want to sell to them or there were some issues with safety regulations or something, not sure since  it happened some time ago.
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Date: 15-03-2022 21:17
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autism wrote:
uhyre wrote:
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i have big appetite for violence hopefully guillotines make a comeback soon
be the change u want to see in the world, autism
thank you for these inspiring words Uhyre, in future i will personally bring back guillotines
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Date: 15-03-2022 21:23
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Satellite wrote:
it's a tricky one, on the one hand violence doesn't endear you to the population and i'm not sure that a genuine politics of liberation can really be built on perpetuating the cycles of death and revenge. I also find it odd that some of the same people who are prison abolitionists/anti death penalty/anti-police are prepared to make themselves look like complete hypocrites just for revenge

BUT at the same time - is it naive to assume that the violence of capitalist states can be overcome with non-violence? (yes probably). and secondly, people are so desensitised to the violence of the system we live in because it feels far away from them. but the merciless exploitation of the factory workers who sew the mass-produced clothes we buy IS violence. the military industrial complex that sustains the US economy is obviously inherently built on violence. we might assume that our society is generally peaceful, but under the surface it really isn't at all - we're just lucky because we're not the victims of the violence... yet
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Date: 15-03-2022 22:14
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Sol wrote:
Sylvan wrote:

Even with all the layers of irony and sarcasm the internet has to offer, I still don't think it's okay actually?
i think this is the biggest thing abt the death threats and all that. it's all online from behind a screen, most of it isn't real
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Date: 15-03-2022 22:24
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talent wrote:
i personally believe in the importance and necessity of violence used correctly but as is usual with a lot of the very radicalized youngins it can be very misplaced

theres only so much that can be done peacefully when in need of revolution
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Date: 15-03-2022 22:25
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Sol wrote:
also ppl think they are used to violence because they see a lot of it (in news articles/movies/games etc). but when you truly experience violence, thats something completely different
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Date: 15-03-2022 22:25
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Kink wrote:
as a serious response, violence should never be the answer for anything, as violence usually only breeds more violence
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Date: 15-03-2022 22:27
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Sylvan wrote:
Sol wrote:
also ppl think they are used to violence because they see a lot of it (in news articles/movies/games etc). but when you truly experience violence, thats something completely different
Probably. 
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Date: 15-03-2022 22:41
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kalypso wrote:
this one time a dude slapped on purpose my ass in the nightclub… hell ya i hit him in the face and i would do it again 
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Date: 15-03-2022 23:14
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kalypso wrote:
yall can’t tell me u never wanted to hit someone 
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Date: 15-03-2022 23:15
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wuwu wrote:
kalypso wrote:
yall can’t tell me u never wanted to hit someone 
this isnt about hitting a bigot once, its about committing violent acts towards people on the basis of their perceived political believes/certain opinions they express/actions they commit
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Date: 15-03-2022 23:29
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Potion wrote:
i mean, if were talking communists then im not surprised since communism is inherently violent
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Date: 15-03-2022 23:33
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ouch wrote:
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i mean, if were talking communists then im not surprised since communism is inherently violent
My grandpa n aunt is the only commusists I respecc 💪 probably that should mean they r not communists 
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Date: 15-03-2022 23:34
Wuwu
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wuwu wrote:
Potion wrote:
i mean, if were talking communists then im not surprised since communism is inherently violent
care to explain how communism is inherently violent?
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Date: 15-03-2022 23:35
Wuwu
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wuwu wrote:
wuwu wrote:
Potion wrote:
i mean, if were talking communists then im not surprised since communism is inherently violent
care to explain how communism is inherently violent?
except for the uprising, of course. but this thread is obviously not about the workers uprising lol so im assuming that is not what youre refering to
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Date: 15-03-2022 23:37
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