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Cobain
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I hope he has some good ass answers or explanations or SOMETHING when he comes home. Ofc I won't believe shit but still. And if he offers to show me the app it doesn't mean shit bc he's had several fucking hours to delete everything

Idk what to do honestly it feels like my whole life has been crushed
Cobain
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I have just left my old apartment. I've just started studying so my economy isn't ideal to get a new apartment, I won't get one. I can't afford this one on my own. If it comes to that I'll go live with my mom but like.. and leave him with an apartment I have fixed for US? and all stuff? Everything? I don't wanna give him that. 
Cobain
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And that app
You give like gifts or smth to the people ur talking to. So dudes give gifts so girls will show off. Why else would he give gifts? Pay real money to just talk to someone? Cuz as I said I saw those hearts flying on screen. So gifts I suppose, or smth. I just.... God I'm shaking please let me be wrong 
Cobain
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he's coming home within the hour
probably within 30 mins

i feel nauseous
Private
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cobain wrote:
And that app
You give like gifts or smth to the people ur talking to. So dudes give gifts so girls will show off. Why else would he give gifts? Pay real money to just talk to someone? Cuz as I said I saw those hearts flying on screen. So gifts I suppose, or smth. I just.... God I'm shaking please let me be wrong 
why don’t you ask him straight up instead of assuming ? i know he’s probably gonna deny it but if u are insistent maybe he’ll tell you the truth. assuming won’t get u anywhere it’ll just cause distress 
Cobain
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so he came home
i was in bed. he came to me and asked if i was sad. i didn't say much, just closed my eyes. and he said that he was wrong, he was at fault and that he has to be easy on me. he said it was wrong of him to get angry and wrong of him to not remove the app or smth. i started questioning him about the app more, i asked why he lied and i told him that basically EVERYTHING i have read about it says that it's for cybersex and paying women to get undressed. he told me again that he doesn't use it for that and that he swore on his family that he didn't. he said that the girl he was talking to, yes he met her on that app a long time ago, but he didn't use it for seeing women. i asked him if he's ever seen her get undressed, he said no. again he swore on his family. i asked if he's used it in a sexual way during our relationship and he said no. he promised. he told me he wants to live his entire life with me, that i'm absolutely perfect for him, he wants to travel with me and just make a life together, he has introduced me to his family and they adore me, he wouldn't have done that if he was gonna go behind my back. i told him that people can be married for 50 years, have children together, and they still cheat, so it doesn't really mean shit, does it?'

he said that this girl lives in his home country, they're from the same city even. she knows about his family. i asked if his family know her, he said no but that she knows who they are. basically. that's how they had gotten to know each other, because they were from the same area. i asked him to show me her insta, he said he don't have her on insta. i asked him to show her anywhere, facebook, wherever, he said he doesn't have her anywhere because they got to know each other through that app and have never had contact anywhere else. which to me feels strange. but. idk.
i questioned those hearts on the screen. i asked if he was paying her to talk to him and he said no. i asked why those hearts were on screen tho, like he gave her gifts or whatever the fuck it means. he said he didn't know but he hadn't given gifts and no money involved. idk.
i asked why he lied about it being an old app because i'd just now lately started seeing the notifs that he also removes RIGHT away when he gets them. he told me that maybe it's because he opened the app again after a long time, that's why he started getting notifs from it again. i told him i saw it was in the last spot on his home screen so seems more like a new app. but if i'm honest i'm not 100% sure it was last on his home screen, it looked like it but i'm not entirely sure. he still said it was an old app.
he told me again that he was really sorry and that he needs to understand me more. i told him that everything i do out of jealousy, i do it because i am so scared. he asked if i'm scared to lose him and i said yes. he said he was scared of losing me too, and he'd never want to risk losing me. he told me that he was in the wrong and needs to get better at making me feel safe with him, and also said that i need to get better with my jealousy. fair enough. i told him that i am painfully aware that i have issues, deep rooted fucking issues. i told him that i'm trying to bite my tongue so much and i'm trying to work on these issues but it's really fucking hard, especially when he keeps doing stuff that triggers me. 
then he asked if i don't trust him and i said that i don't. because i just don't. he asked me what he needs to do to make me trust him. i told him that i don't know. 
he was almost in tears during our convo. i started crying several times.
he had bought me a gift, quite expensive one. classic cheater move tho, eh? so that made me overthink some more.

we hugged and kissed a bit and it was just not a great night last night. he asked if he should go to a friend for the night. i said no. because that doesn't help, does it? he just didn't want to be in all the negative energy but like suck it up. he wanted me to be happy but i told him to give me time because i am not happy. like, he has hurt me and i need time. you know? 
i'm also just.. idk.. had i had clear fucking evidence that he has cheated on me i'd ditch him straight away. beacuse i can't stay with someone who has done such a horrible thing to me. i have before and it's impossible. now i don't know if he has cheated on me. he says he hasn't and he swears on his family (which is extremely important to him) but it's also just words, isn't it? i guess i'll just let this blow over and if i ever see anything like this again or if i ever catch him cheating on me that's it. that is fucking it. you know?
a part of me is scared he's just saying all of this because he's scared of the consequences. maybe he wants to be with me, yeah? otherwise i guess he hadn't. but maybe he does want some fucking side piece or whatever while he's with me. i don't know? he knows i'd leave him. and that i would tell his family which will bring great shame on EVERYONE in his family, not just him. he would maybe lose our home. etc. 

at the same time i'm thinking... what if he didn't do anything shady and everything is exactly how he says it is? that must be hard for him as well when i accuse and am suspicious of his every move etc etc. it's suffocating. but idk. 
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from what i've read abt him here and other forum posts it kinda sounds like he gaslights you to think there's nothing but it clearly seems like he lives off womens validation and like the attention, a bit more flirtasious than 'just friends' it seems  maybe he hasn't cheated, but it might be a gray area which most ppl in monogamous relationship wouldn't be okay with. 
everything with these kind of stuff happening seems off, and clearly he's not being 100% honest with you
Cobain
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so he had a talk with me after he quit work on monday
he said that this is the first time together with me where he didn't want to come home. he's naturally very happy and cheerful, no matter what, but all this negative energy at home had completeley killed his mood. he talked about my jealousy and that it's getting out of hand, he has made changes for me to please me (which he has, actually, he's not wrong). but then i don't make any changes or try to work on myself. he feels suffocated and he hates it. and i understand what he means. because i AM suffocating. i haven't brought this up on vp i don't think but literally even the smallest thing can make me go bonkers. out of jealousy. it can be completely normal fucking things too lol. but i've just gotten into this extremely bad bad spiral of jealousy where i'm scared of everything? and i'm TRYING to find evidence that he's cheating or at least being a shit person to me. but it's all just to fucking fit my narrative that i'm certain i'm being/gonna be cheated on and hurt. u know what i mean? 
it was a loooong talk. a good one i think. he told me it was really hurtful that i don't trust him, and he questioned why i live together with a person i don't trust. he said i always bring up past relationships and experiences that fuck me up but i need to realize that he is a NEW person in my life. he is not those people and i shouldn't act like or assume he is. 
he never said that what he did wasn't wrong. he told me he's absolutely done wrong things in this relationship, as every person has in every relationship. we're just humans. but we have to try to be compassionate and believe in each other and that we're not out to get one another. 

did this talk fix everything? no
i'm still worried that he's dishonest and has cheated on me. hopefully those thoughts will calm down when some time has passed. i don't know, do i? neither do any of you. you're also only hearing my version and my version is probably a tad bit distorted because as i said i'm trying to find anything i can that will fit my narrative. you know? blowing things out of porportion, and seeing things not for what they are but for what i believe they are. hope u understand.

i can only move forward now and take things as they come. if he ever cheats on me i'll take care of it then. i can't go around being scared he's gonna cheat because that's not a life to live. i need to work on myself, honestly. truly. and we need to communicate and be open and honest with each other throughout all of this. yeah.
and i'm not saying that he hasn't done anything wrong or that i'm completely in the wrong. no. but... i think i need to open my eyes and start to see my flaws as well. it's not news to me that i have unresolved issues that i've buried deep inside hoping they will go away on their own. like... it's fucking time to do some hard fucking labor if i ever want this relationship or any relationship in the future to work out.
Private
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not trying to sound rude but have you considered getting help via therapy n such? i dont think ur relationship is that healthy if anything he does can make you feel extremely jealous + youre trying hard to find hints of a cheat that may not even exist.. like what he did w the app was def sus but idk :s 
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maybe u guys should typ.. take a break? some distance so u can slow down this hunt for evidence to prove your narrative and sorta just take a breather again? and yeah, i guess, since both of you feel suffocated, it doesn't seem like it is working right now.
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Sorry not sorry, but your relationship is already broken if you don't trust him at all. I don't care whether he's cheating, have cheated or not done anything at all, because the important thing here is the trust issues, which you very clearly have. Get out of the relationship, because it isn't healthy for any of you.

Doesn't matter whether he cheated or not, if you don't trust him, because that in itself is toxic.
Anachronism
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cobain wrote:
I have just left my old apartment. I've just started studying so my economy isn't ideal to get a new apartment, I won't get one. I can't afford this one on my own. If it comes to that I'll go live with my mom but like.. and leave him with an apartment I have fixed for US? and all stuff? Everything? I don't wanna give him that. 
You dont owe him shit. I also think its very likely he is cheating. If you have to, get the fuck out of there. If he's screwing you over, why would you feel bad about screwong him over? I'm probably being petty tho lol

I've been in a similar situation. I was 23, living with my addict bipolar mother and her enabling mom. I moved in with a guy I barely knew, made sure to get on the lease in case we broke up, and he ended up bringing the girl he was cheating on me with home. 

I broke up with him but asked to stay until I could save up for my own place and land a better job. Within a month he left to move to Washington with that girl and o only had $350 to my name and I was not moving back home. Hell no. It was very tough but things worked out in the end. 

I sympathize with you here. Being dependent on a toxic guy sucks. Yet if things worked out for me, I've no doubt they'll work for u 
Private
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Versailles wrote:
from what i've read abt him here and other forum posts it kinda sounds like he gaslights you to think there's nothing but it clearly seems like he lives off womens validation and like the attention, a bit more flirtasious than 'just friends' it seems  maybe he hasn't cheated, but it might be a gray area which most ppl in monogamous relationship wouldn't be okay with. 
everything with these kind of stuff happening seems off, and clearly he's not being 100% honest with you
the first red flag was when he kept calling everyone princesses or some shit tbh. and talking about moving together after the first night they hooked up. he's def manipulative and not just based on this post. he's making such big promises to her to make it seem like the love story of the century to get away with shady shit like this. he's making it seem like he's such a hero ("making changes to please me" [boohoo, manwhore]) for waiting/"supporting" her to get better when he's clearly the reason why this all has escalated so greatly. who tf wouldn't go crazy with a guy like him?
Private
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cobain wrote:
I have just left my old apartment. I've just started studying so my economy isn't ideal to get a new apartment, I won't get one. I can't afford this one on my own. If it comes to that I'll go live with my mom but like.. and leave him with an apartment I have fixed for US? and all stuff? Everything? I don't wanna give him that. 
and you shouldn't. if it comes to that, he must pay for your work. that or you take the stuff you fixed
Anachronism
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Sera wrote:
Versailles wrote:
from what i've read abt him here and other forum posts it kinda sounds like he gaslights you to think there's nothing but it clearly seems like he lives off womens validation and like the attention, a bit more flirtasious than 'just friends' it seems  maybe he hasn't cheated, but it might be a gray area which most ppl in monogamous relationship wouldn't be okay with. 
everything with these kind of stuff happening seems off, and clearly he's not being 100% honest with you
the first red flag was when he kept calling everyone princesses or some shit tbh. and talking about moving together after the first night they hooked up. he's def manipulative and not just based on this post. he's making such big promises to her to make it seem like the love story of the century to get away with shady shit like this. he's making it seem like he's such a hero ("making changes to please me" [boohoo, manwhore]) for waiting/"supporting" her to get better when he's clearly the reason why this all has escalated so greatly. who tf wouldn't go crazy with a guy like him?
Ops bf reminds me of my ex. When we moved in together, he very quickly started calling me his wife. He also said, "no lying and no cheating" all the time. It was fucking creepy. 

I honestly think many people here are going too easy on him here. Do you blame op for not trusting him? I wouldn't 
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