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devilcake wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Angelica wrote:
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what happened with ikea?
Deforesting
wouldnt creating furniture still result in the destruction of nature in one way or another
its about whether or not its done in a more sustainable way
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Date: 04-12-2022 16:31
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Pavlov wrote:
Angelica wrote:
hmm wrote:
what happened with ikea?
Deforesting
wouldnt creating furniture still result in the destruction of nature in one way or another
Ikea is known to source illegally and in old growth forests which are mostly protected areas but otherwise yes. Everything makes an impact and the issue there is rly how big is acceptable 
Date: 04-12-2022 17:56 | Times changed: 1
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Pavlov wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Angelica wrote:
Deforesting
wouldnt creating furniture still result in the destruction of nature in one way or another
Ikea is known to source illegally and in old growth forests which are mostly protected areas
oh damn good job ikea
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Date: 04-12-2022 17:57
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Sylvan wrote:
I'm cheap but even I would never buy electronics or toys from there.
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Babel wrote:
Buying electronics with cameras in them from China and other weird websites also have the chance of additional monitoring if they connect to the internet. We had a government official out talking about the issues of a digitalized society, and she said they had more than one case of buying security cameras for buildings they then opened up at some point only to find additional monitoring they didn't know what we're for or who used. Just food for thought.
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Date: 04-12-2022 18:03
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Pavlov wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
wouldnt creating furniture still result in the destruction of nature in one way or another
Ikea is known to source illegally and in old growth forests which are mostly protected areas
oh damn good job ikea
The netflix docu wood industry a businesses against nature is all about it. Also, ye if wood is sustainable in any case is for the most part a question of speed. Or slowness because it has to regenerate and wood grows slow. 
Date: 04-12-2022 18:03
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Buying electronics with cameras in them from China and other weird websites also have the chance of additional monitoring if they connect to the internet. We had a government official out talking about the issues of a digitalized society, and she said they had more than one case of buying security cameras for buildings they then opened up at some point only to find additional monitoring they didn't know what we're for or who used. Just food for thought.
Not surprised. I feel watched enough w a huaweii phone lol
Date: 04-12-2022 18:04
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Babel wrote:
Eostre wrote:
DeIure wrote:
Buying electronics with cameras in them from China and other weird websites also have the chance of additional monitoring if they connect to the internet. We had a government official out talking about the issues of a digitalized society, and she said they had more than one case of buying security cameras for buildings they then opened up at some point only to find additional monitoring they didn't know what we're for or who used. Just food for thought.
Not surprised. I feel watched enough w a huaweii phone lol
Still scary though.
I honestly loved my Huawei until I visited China with it. I never got rid of the weird commercials and texts it decided I needed to receive after I had been in the country. 

Don't Apple scan your pictures in your albums now though? Not that much better tbh
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DeIure wrote:
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DeIure wrote:
Buying electronics with cameras in them from China and other weird websites also have the chance of additional monitoring if they connect to the internet. We had a government official out talking about the issues of a digitalized society, and she said they had more than one case of buying security cameras for buildings they then opened up at some point only to find additional monitoring they didn't know what we're for or who used. Just food for thought.
Not surprised. I feel watched enough w a huaweii phone lol
Still scary though.
I honestly loved my Huawei until I visited China with it. I never got rid of the weird commercials and texts it decided I needed to receive after I had been in the country. 

Don't Apple scan your pictures in your albums now though? Not that much better tbh
I've never had apple so I don't know. But if they have it, I'm sure Google isn't far behind. 
Date: 04-12-2022 18:08
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Babel wrote:
Eostre wrote:
DeIure wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Not surprised. I feel watched enough w a huaweii phone lol
Still scary though.
I honestly loved my Huawei until I visited China with it. I never got rid of the weird commercials and texts it decided I needed to receive after I had been in the country. 

Don't Apple scan your pictures in your albums now though? Not that much better tbh
I've never had apple so I don't know. But if they have it, I'm sure Google isn't far behind. 
CSAM, but only on iCloud apparently.
Still though. It's good looking at what you consume and how you consume stuff. Sometimes cheap is good, sometimes cheap means you're selling something else or risking something, like your health, due to shortcuts in production.
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Rotte wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Ikea is known to source illegally and in old growth forests which are mostly protected areas
oh damn good job ikea
The netflix docu wood industry a businesses against nature is all about it. Also, ye if wood is sustainable in any case is for the most part a question of speed. Or slowness because it has to regenerate and wood grows slow. 
Ikeas attitude about the whole thing, turned me off. It's like shein, I don't want to support.
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Angelica wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
oh damn good job ikea
The netflix docu wood industry a businesses against nature is all about it. Also, ye if wood is sustainable in any case is for the most part a question of speed. Or slowness because it has to regenerate and wood grows slow. 
Ikeas attitude about the whole thing, turned me off. It's like shein, I don't want to support.
Yeah it's hilarious how the man from ikea responded. Its taking zero responsibility or care. 
Date: 04-12-2022 18:29
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Rotte wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Angelica wrote:
Eostre wrote:
The netflix docu wood industry a businesses against nature is all about it. Also, ye if wood is sustainable in any case is for the most part a question of speed. Or slowness because it has to regenerate and wood grows slow. 
Ikeas attitude about the whole thing, turned me off. It's like shein, I don't want to support.
Yeah it's hilarious how the man from ikea responded. Its taking zero responsibility or care. 
Lmao yea, the "Well our supplier said it's sustainable, so it's not my problem" sent me honestly. How is that not your problem dude? 
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Angelica wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Angelica wrote:
Ikeas attitude about the whole thing, turned me off. It's like shein, I don't want to support.
Yeah it's hilarious how the man from ikea responded. Its taking zero responsibility or care. 
Lmao yea, the "Well our supplier said it's sustainable, so it's not my problem" sent me honestly. How is that not your problem dude? 
Bc they don't believe in transparency. And well ikea is committed to using large amounts of plastic in any future as well and they aren't shy about it. What could we expect. But ye I still go to ikea when I need something I can't find elsewhere. I do indeed like some of their stuff, esp their storage boxes for food in stainless steel and glass w wood lids. Idk when ill need something ikea again tho. Maybe when i move to a place of my out that isn't student housing
Date: 04-12-2022 18:42 | Times changed: 1
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Melody wrote:
i'm not sure how exactly they think these things can b stopped, esp on the mass scale stores with many cases being individual sellers (i only have experience w ebay)
they prolly have some semi automated systems to keep out absolutely horrendous stuff, but takedown reports are usually handled by ppl who couldn't possibly find and eliminate all the listings in a day lmao. doing something drastic like banning specific countries wouldn't work either bc i know for a fact that some shady sellers are marking themselves as european to avoid taxes n shit. i usually only buy from european sellers anyway bc of tax reasons, but yeah. eu's gonna have to figure something magical if they wanna stop this entirely haha
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