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Alam
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Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Eh, I disagree.. Where I live, most of the transgender people kill themselves also because taking hormones can fuck you up. Plus, at least 6000 trans kids in my country, died because of complications with hormones. 
Suicide risk in transgender individuals are related to both discrimination and hormones (in the case they're taking it)
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? 
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876
I don't speak that language.
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Date: 10-07-2020 20:55
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ouch wrote:
Heaven wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
wdym they werent trans?
ppl go through phases in life where they try to figure themselves out and perhaps someone who thought they were trans for some time just wasnt  . . ??? and also what ouch said
Yes, I know soemone on vp who detransitioned cus at the time they felt that transitioning was the right thing to become happy, but they figured out it didn't help cus their problems was from other things than gender dysphoria 
hmhm this is possible
and valid 
Date: 10-07-2020 20:55
BEWAREARTEMIS
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
By reading studies from my country?
Therapy is basic in order to get hormones, yes. I perhaps explained myself wrong, this kids' deaths are related to the hormones they take.

Taking hormones may cause different effects (https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/mtf-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096 ; linking this to show some of the side effects of hormone treatment, but I believe this goes for both transgender women and transgender men)

Yes, transitioning and support can make the stadistics change a lot

where is the study that supports this theory and number?
The links I shared to respond to Alam's question
And well, rather than taking hormones, probably should've said hormone blockers
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Heaven wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
ouch wrote:
That what they were experiencing wasn't true gender dysphoria or it came from something else, ppl detransition ukno
u dont kno that tho
this makes no sense, the person can literally tell u? no one talked abt guessing 
wdym, im saying that trans ppl kills themselves also AFTER transisioning like how do u not know if they are actually trans or not?
Date: 10-07-2020 20:55
Alam
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Alam wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Alam wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
nice cop out
It's not a cop out, you're not willing to listen or do your own research, I'm not going to do that for you.
bec im asking u for statistics that u claimed u have???? if u say that trans ppl kills themselves bec they rny accepted/not getting enough support i would luv to get those statitics 2 see if ur just making it up or if ur posts actually has value
Then read the links I gave you? I went out of my way to try and provide evidence to my claims but you want me to spell it out for you? You're a 30 year old women, you can fucking read.
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Date: 10-07-2020 20:56
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ouch wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Alam wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
nice cop out
It's not a cop out, you're not willing to listen or do your own research, I'm not going to do that for you.
bec im asking u for statistics that u claimed u have???? if u say that trans ppl kills themselves bec they rny accepted/not getting enough support i would luv to get those statitics 2 see if ur just making it up or if ur posts actually has value
Ur not showing statistics for your claims either so why would he lol
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Date: 10-07-2020 20:56
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
mhm no
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wrote:
Alam wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Alam wrote:
It's not a cop out, you're not willing to listen or do your own research, I'm not going to do that for you.
bec im asking u for statistics that u claimed u have???? if u say that trans ppl kills themselves bec they rny accepted/not getting enough support i would luv to get those statitics 2 see if ur just making it up or if ur posts actually has value
Then read the links I gave you? I went out of my way to try and provide evidence to my claims but you want me to spell it out for you? You're a 30 year old women, you can fucking read.
i didnt find any statistics anywhere? do u know how providing a source of ur information works
Date: 10-07-2020 20:56
Alam
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Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:

where is the study that supports this theory and number?
The links I shared to respond to Alam's question
And well, rather than taking hormones, probably should've said hormone blockers
Hormone blockers and hormones are WAY different. Hormone blockers CAN be harmful, they can weaken your bones and other stuff I don't remember. Hrt, however, is pretty dang safe.
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Date: 10-07-2020 20:57
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ouch wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Alam wrote:
It's not a cop out, you're not willing to listen or do your own research, I'm not going to do that for you.
bec im asking u for statistics that u claimed u have???? if u say that trans ppl kills themselves bec they rny accepted/not getting enough support i would luv to get those statitics 2 see if ur just making it up or if ur posts actually has value
Ur not showing statistics for your claims either so why would he lol
alam said i was talking out of my ass but alam does the exact same thing so ???????????
Date: 10-07-2020 20:57
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ouch wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Heaven wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
u dont kno that tho
this makes no sense, the person can literally tell u? no one talked abt guessing 
wdym, im saying that trans ppl kills themselves also AFTER transisioning like how do u not know if they are actually trans or not?
Cus they might feel bad abt their body still, irreversible changed so they feel its hopeless to try to detransition etc
There are lots of reasons someone might still feel bad after transitioning, also the hate from society in general 
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Date: 10-07-2020 20:57
BEWAREARTEMIS
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? 
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876
I don't speak that language.
I was talking about my country, that's why the articles are in spanish. The titles are "6000 deaths related to puberty-blocking medications for transexualism's treatments in kids" and "Reports of more than 6000 deaths because of medications for trans kids"
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ouch wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Heaven wrote:
this makes no sense, the person can literally tell u? no one talked abt guessing 
wdym, im saying that trans ppl kills themselves also AFTER transisioning like how do u not know if they are actually trans or not?
Cus they might feel bad abt their body still, irreversible changed so they feel its hopeless to try to detransition etc
There are lots of reasons someone might still feel bad after transitioning, also the hate from society in general 
sure but u said maybe they rnt really trans. neither of us know that
Date: 10-07-2020 20:58
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wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Heaven wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
u dont kno that tho
this makes no sense, the person can literally tell u? no one talked abt guessing 
wdym, im saying that trans ppl kills themselves also AFTER transisioning like how do u not know if they are actually trans or not?
now that is a very rhetoric question because you literally wouldn't know..... it's too complex for there to be a solid explanation, but discrimination plays a factor i guess? (if u don't know that they weren't conformed with transitioning either)

bruh i hope u get what i mean
Date: 10-07-2020 20:58
Annie
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Annie wrote:
Honestly idk? Probably
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