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I don't think it's body positivity to tell people what they can't do with  their bodies either and that is kinda what you are doing here duckgirl.
Date: 30-09-2020 22:13 | Times changed: 1
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Kino wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
care to explain when is it positive to strive a physical ideal that does not have to do with physical health
mental wellbeing
have you thought that the reason why ppl get obsessed with looking like an ideal, is that these ideals create the false idea that their bodies are wrong and that that's the reason why they should change
so then, an ideal is making people change because they feel wrong about it

beauty is all about trends and ideals of the time so
that doesnt make it any less real? and it only makes the people getting these surgeries victims of society's abuse? so why are we condemning them again? 
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:13
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duckgirl wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
What is wrong with that? Does that have to be inherently negative? Can you like a certain aesthetic or ideal in a way that celebrates yourself? Plus were all influenced by our surroundings anyway, like why is it that art influenced by trends is ok but when it's a person's body, we have to tell them how much they'll regret it? 

Tbh you sound judgmental. I mean bdd and low self esteem is one thing but I think you're mistaken in thinking that is universal to plastic surgery customers.
if youre changing how you look because you open instagram and see "ideal bodies" and believe that thats how you should look like, then yes, its negtive as fuck
im not saying that you will automatically regret getting a plastic surgery, but still you should not preach about loving your body if you in fact hate your body n would 100% change it if possible

i dont care if i sound judgmental. im 2 tired seeing pictures of ideal bodies n ppl believing that its totally healthy 2 change your body just bc you dont look a certain way
I agree that the idea of an "ideal body" is a wrong one, and that plastic surgery to reach that goal probably wont end up positively, but I dont think plastic surgery itself is the problem. That would be beauty standards. 

I disagree with your last point though. You cant be insecure yet try to work on it? I preach loving yourself despite my very low self esteem, am I now a hypocrite? I know my attitude sux, I dont want ppl to emulate it, and I preach self love cuz I'm trying to achieve that, but I'm a fucking human and self esteem takes time to build.
plastic surgeries, talking about cosmetic ones, r one of the consequences of beauty standards, so ppl who preach about body positivity, that is supposedly abt not caring about beauty standards because they're obv wrong and "everyone is beautiful", but then get plastic surgeries, that are also inspired by beauty standards, are being hypocritical (it's so hard 2 explain it in English lol but I think u get me)

Preaching abt self love while you try to do it yourself isn't the same as preaching it without having the idea that you have to work on your self steem too, and wanting to change everything about who you are in order to look or be an ideal
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:15
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duckgirl wrote:
NOface wrote:
I don't think it's body positivity to tell people what they can't do with  their bodies either and that is kinda what you are doing here duckgirl.
have I told anyone to not get plastic surgeries?
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:16
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ouch wrote:
Trainor wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
mental wellbeing
have you thought that the reason why ppl get obsessed with looking like an ideal, is that these ideals create the false idea that their bodies are wrong and that that's the reason why they should change
so then, an ideal is making people change because they feel wrong about it

beauty is all about trends and ideals of the time so
that doesnt make it any less real? and it only makes the people getting these surgeries victims of society's abuse? so why are we condemning them again? 
Yeah lol
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:17
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Kino wrote:
alright this is going nowhere so im just gonna go to sleep. goodnight!
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:17
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Arthema wrote:
Beauty is stupid
I had a vaginoplasty
Life is a joke

Body positivity is a scam, so do whatever the fuck you want with your lives and bodies if you think that it'll make you happy because at the end of the day nothing matters.
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:17
Duckgirl
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duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
mental wellbeing
have you thought that the reason why ppl get obsessed with looking like an ideal, is that these ideals create the false idea that their bodies are wrong and that that's the reason why they should change
so then, an ideal is making people change because they feel wrong about it

beauty is all about trends and ideals of the time so
that doesnt make it any less real? and it only makes the people getting these surgeries victims of society's abuse? so why are we condemning them again? 
it does make it less real. it will always be influenced In any way or another, so it's never a real choice.
I'm condemning the preaching of an idea of self love while you yourself dont love yourself
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:18
Duckgirl
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duckgirl wrote:
either you guys r missing my points or I need to get a translator 
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:19
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ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
have you thought that the reason why ppl get obsessed with looking like an ideal, is that these ideals create the false idea that their bodies are wrong and that that's the reason why they should change
so then, an ideal is making people change because they feel wrong about it

beauty is all about trends and ideals of the time so
that doesnt make it any less real? and it only makes the people getting these surgeries victims of society's abuse? so why are we condemning them again? 
it does make it less real. it will always be influenced In any way or another, so it's never a real choice.
I'm condemning the preaching of an idea of self love while you yourself dont love yourself
But again, thats almost anyone preaching self love innit 
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:19
Kino
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Kino wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
either you guys r missing my points or I need to get a translator 
or we just dont agree. theres also that option
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:20
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ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
either you guys r missing my points or I need to get a translator 
No we just don't agree, cus its a very warped and extremely spesific and nitpicky way of thinking abt things
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:20
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duckgirl wrote:
ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
that doesnt make it any less real? and it only makes the people getting these surgeries victims of society's abuse? so why are we condemning them again? 
it does make it less real. it will always be influenced In any way or another, so it's never a real choice.
I'm condemning the preaching of an idea of self love while you yourself dont love yourself
But again, thats almost anyone preaching self love innit 
there are few people who really are out there loving what society calls flaws and will preach about ppl loving themselves without caring about your flaws
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:21
Kino
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Kino wrote:
ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
that doesnt make it any less real? and it only makes the people getting these surgeries victims of society's abuse? so why are we condemning them again? 
it does make it less real. it will always be influenced In any way or another, so it's never a real choice.
I'm condemning the preaching of an idea of self love while you yourself dont love yourself
But again, thats almost anyone preaching self love innit 
yeah the difference is these people made a choice to do something about it and we are somehow demonizing them for it
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:21
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duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
either you guys r missing my points or I need to get a translator 
or we just dont agree. theres also that option
I thought it was also clear that that was part of the options I gave
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:21
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