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help i just read the lesbian manifesto
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Marcelien wrote:
dunno how u feel about the same sex, but im in a place where im sexually attracted to women, but i wouldnt be in a relationship with them (ive met a few where i could possibly, but not many).

for the record, im in a straight relationship now, but i know im bi cus i like girls as well.
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Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Alam wrote:
Yuh, in the democratic first world, it is, for the most part, more dangerous for men's mental health than it is for women's.

not really sure i agree here because gender roles are still such a big and toxic part of modern societies
Yeah, and they hurt men almost as much as they do women, but women have support systems in place for when they do and men don't, not as much.
they hurt men and we should absolutely create support systems but when it comes to the power dynamics men still profit from those structures even if it hurts them too.
But making it a competition isn't helpful imo.
There needs to be a joint effort to review and analyse it and then work on it together which is hard because sooo many people still hold on to those structures and stereotypes it's a big mess.

There are hotlines and places to go for male victims of violence from partners (too few tho) and i think that's important because the shame is definitely there, that i agree.
Date: 14-12-2020 18:06
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Annie wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Annie wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
well what's so wrong abt women not wanting to have anything to do with males? it's not a new idea and separatism is good for women's health, physical and mental, as the presence of males around them no longer makes them become drained. 
are women not allowed or trusted to make their own decisions, this one included? or is it only when you still involve males in everything, it's okay?
wait I didn't get this until now, but please correct me if I misread or understood you wrong: you believe women should be able to live without the presence of men at all? entirely?
absolutely if they chose to.
ah, ok... can't say I agree but you do you
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Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
well what's so wrong abt women not wanting to have anything to do with males? it's not a new idea and separatism is good for women's health, physical and mental, as the presence of males around them no longer makes them become drained. 
are women not allowed or trusted to make their own decisions, this one included? or is it only when you still involve males in everything, it's okay?
Also do you really think an all female society would eradicate hierarchies? 

Its hierarchies that make me feel drained no matter who perpetuates them
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wug wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
can someone give me a summary of the main points in the discussion i fail to see how it relates to someone questioning their sexuality 
it's the same as always, one sidetrack and then everything goes to shitters
but why this topic like can't you guys talk about something like chocolate or whatever like people on this website are so set in what they think about gender and sex and whatever what's the fucking point bringing it up constantly honestly 
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Alam wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Annie wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
well what's so wrong abt women not wanting to have anything to do with males? it's not a new idea and separatism is good for women's health, physical and mental, as the presence of males around them no longer makes them become drained. 
are women not allowed or trusted to make their own decisions, this one included? or is it only when you still involve males in everything, it's okay?
wait I didn't get this until now, but please correct me if I misread or understood you wrong: you believe women should be able to live without the presence of men at all? entirely?
absolutely if they chose to.
Sure, but what does that have to do with a trans woman nee3ding to piss?
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ouch wrote:
N thats on trauma innit 
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Annie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Annie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

so hate towards men doesn't exist because men are / were the oppressing class?
also society used to be matriarchic thousands of years ago, are we really saying that back then there was no possibility of women oppressing men?
oof

that's me asking, because the matter truly confuses me
Yeah I do believe hate against men exists, obviously, and I'm completely against a matriarchy-like world because then we're no better than the men that oppress us now. equality, duh
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Anachronism wrote:
Alam wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Annie wrote:
wait I didn't get this until now, but please correct me if I misread or understood you wrong: you believe women should be able to live without the presence of men at all? entirely?
absolutely if they chose to.
Sure, but what does that have to do with a trans woman nee3ding to piss?
Cuz they're really just men wanting oppression points so they can rape and abuse women w/ legislation that allows them to 
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wug wrote:
Alam wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Annie wrote:
wait I didn't get this until now, but please correct me if I misread or understood you wrong: you believe women should be able to live without the presence of men at all? entirely?
absolutely if they chose to.
Sure, but what does that have to do with a trans woman nee3ding to piss?
ban public restrooms problem solved on tot he next thing 
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wrote:
Alam wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Annie wrote:
wait I didn't get this until now, but please correct me if I misread or understood you wrong: you believe women should be able to live without the presence of men at all? entirely?
absolutely if they chose to.
Sure, but what does that have to do with a trans woman nee3ding to piss?
i was never talking abt that.

so that's a you thing.
Date: 14-12-2020 18:07
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Marcelien wrote:
and just as a follow up question: do u have to figure it out? cant u just end up with whatever sex u end up with, and let that be that?

no judgement if u want a "label" on it tho. just asking.
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Annie
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Annie wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Alam wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
absolutely if they chose to.
Sure, but what does that have to do with a trans woman nee3ding to piss?
Cuz they're really just men wanting oppression points so they can rape and abuse women w/ legislation that allows them to 
huh
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Date: 14-12-2020 18:08
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wug wrote:
Annie wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sure, but what does that have to do with a trans woman nee3ding to piss?
Cuz they're really just men wanting oppression points so they can rape and abuse women w/ legislation that allows them to 
huh
sarcasm is my guess 
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Date: 14-12-2020 18:09
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Annie wrote:
youre being sarcastic, right?
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