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kinda unpopular opinion......?
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duckgirl wrote:
ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
maybe stop believing that plastic surgeries aren't influenced by beauty standards and that corporations actually get benefits from your inability to work self love instead of changing your body
???? Thats what shes saying, its u that are focusing on the wrong thing bruv 
she was saying that it isn't negative changing your body bc of trends, which is incorrect bc this trends are also influenced by corporations
She said judge the corporations instead of the VICTIMS of said corporations, which is what u r doing by demonizing ppl that have had plastic surgery
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but yeah ive said all i needed to say, miscommunications aside, i still strongly disagree with your arguments and my opinion isnt gonna change so. good night. for real this time. 
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i agree
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I lov that more ppl r probably not in agreement with u than when u made this thread lmao, good job
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duckgirl wrote:
ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
maybe stop believing that plastic surgeries aren't influenced by beauty standards and that corporations actually get benefits from your inability to work self love instead of changing your body
???? Thats what shes saying, its u that are focusing on the wrong thing bruv 
she was saying that it isn't negative changing your body bc of trends, which is incorrect bc this trends are also influenced by corporations
Oh corporations ruin everything when they capitalize on trends I dont disagree

What I was trying to say is that sometimes trends can be harmful but sometimes they come from a positive place

Why are you so all or nothing 
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Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
thing is, i feel like once someone is outed as hypocritical, their opinions are thrown out the window cause they "dont have permission to speak on that behalf" or whatever. literally making them invalid
again, by invalid I meant another thing but got it confused
that's why I tried to explain it another way bc invalid was the wrong word
Um no

You are literally saying that even tho they might have a point, they shouldn't say it because of their behavior 

Which is invalidating that psrsons argument 

You're... bad at arguing tbh 
body positivity, aka loving your body, is good. that's great, but trying to preach it like you actually try to love yourself for who you are is hypocritical

maybe I'm bad at arguing in English bc it's not my first language? I already explained before
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duckgirl wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
again, by invalid I meant another thing but got it confused
that's why I tried to explain it another way bc invalid was the wrong word
Um no

You are literally saying that even tho they might have a point, they shouldn't say it because of their behavior 

Which is invalidating that psrsons argument 

You're... bad at arguing tbh 
body positivity, aka loving your body, is good. that's great, but trying to preach it like you actually try to love yourself for who you are is hypocritical

maybe I'm bad at arguing in English bc it's not my first language? I already explained before
And who cares if they're hypocritical? You're still not addressing their point, and why are you judging individuals and not the structures that cause them? 

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ouch wrote:
I lov that more ppl r probably not in agreement with u than when u made this thread lmao, good job
the titlw of this thread is unpopular opinion
you'd think the majority would agree?
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duckgirl wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
again, by invalid I meant another thing but got it confused
that's why I tried to explain it another way bc invalid was the wrong word
Um no

You are literally saying that even tho they might have a point, they shouldn't say it because of their behavior 

Which is invalidating that psrsons argument 

You're... bad at arguing tbh 
body positivity, aka loving your body, is good. that's great, but trying to preach it like you actually try to love yourself for who you are is hypocritical

maybe I'm bad at arguing in English bc it's not my first language? I already explained before
Like 5 ppl on vp got English  as a first language  😭 but again, stop demonizing hypocrisy cus its literally nkt a big deal to b a hypocrite, EVERYONE is
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ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
ouch wrote:
???? Thats what shes saying, its u that are focusing on the wrong thing bruv 
she was saying that it isn't negative changing your body bc of trends, which is incorrect bc this trends are also influenced by corporations
She said judge the corporations instead of the VICTIMS of said corporations, which is what u r doing by demonizing ppl that have had plastic surgery
Thank you 
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
"all bodies are beautiful" but im gettin a lipo, butt implants and hip augmentation
conditioning is a very very very powerful thing . i do get where ur coming from tho. sometimes i feel a bit hypocritical when i talk abt how every1 is beautiful without make-up n how the make-up industry is toxic etc etc.......nd then proceed to constantly wear loads of make-up every single day

but like. shit is complicated u know and u can be aware that something is 'wrong' or a societal standard that shouldnt exist and still give into it and b controlled by it to a certain extent. we r just human after all and like i said. conditioning is a powerful thing bro
ia. 

also for example, you can be a drug addict (for example) and preach that people shouldn't take drugs easily because you know how awful addiction is, but you feel too weak to pull yourself out of it or you feel you're too far gone and want to make sure other people don't follow the same path 
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Persona wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
"all bodies are beautiful" but im gettin a lipo, butt implants and hip augmentation
conditioning is a very very very powerful thing . i do get where ur coming from tho. sometimes i feel a bit hypocritical when i talk abt how every1 is beautiful without make-up n how the make-up industry is toxic etc etc.......nd then proceed to constantly wear loads of make-up every single day

but like. shit is complicated u know and u can be aware that something is 'wrong' or a societal standard that shouldnt exist and still give into it and b controlled by it to a certain extent. we r just human after all and like i said. conditioning is a powerful thing bro
ia. 

also for example, you can be a drug addict (for example) and preach that people shouldn't take drugs easily because you know how awful addiction is, but you feel too weak to pull yourself out of it or you feel you're too far gone and want to make sure other people don't follow the same path 
But who cares what the addict is saying, they're a hypocrite! 

Basically this entire fucking thread lol 
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Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Um no

You are literally saying that even tho they might have a point, they shouldn't say it because of their behavior 

Which is invalidating that psrsons argument 

You're... bad at arguing tbh 
body positivity, aka loving your body, is good. that's great, but trying to preach it like you actually try to love yourself for who you are is hypocritical

maybe I'm bad at arguing in English bc it's not my first language? I already explained before
And who cares if they're hypocritical? You're still not addressing their point, and why are you judging individuals and not the structures that cause them? 
bc it's obvious where does trends come from? and who gets benefited by ppls insecurities and these trends? 
ppl who will still talk about self loving while they damn well know that they hate their body, because you know if you hate or not your body (it isn't rocket science), is wrong and stupid
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Anachronism wrote:
Persona wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
conditioning is a very very very powerful thing . i do get where ur coming from tho. sometimes i feel a bit hypocritical when i talk abt how every1 is beautiful without make-up n how the make-up industry is toxic etc etc.......nd then proceed to constantly wear loads of make-up every single day

but like. shit is complicated u know and u can be aware that something is 'wrong' or a societal standard that shouldnt exist and still give into it and b controlled by it to a certain extent. we r just human after all and like i said. conditioning is a powerful thing bro
ia. 

also for example, you can be a drug addict (for example) and preach that people shouldn't take drugs easily because you know how awful addiction is, but you feel too weak to pull yourself out of it or you feel you're too far gone and want to make sure other people don't follow the same path 
But who cares what the addict is saying, they're a hypocrite! 

Basically this entire fucking thread lol 
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