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do yall think asexuality should be celebrated
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lean wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
lean wrote:
if this is directed at me ia and don't think it should be used as an umbrella term esp to include ace people but i typed out lgbt and was like well no cuz there's not resources for lesbians and the centre has q in the name.

nah it's rather saying it's the same as lgbt which is like yikes moment
i hate it
or when people say the lgbt community and the q***r community are different
like how why
clown moment

very very very much yikes times
just say what u mean instead of being vague
there's no shame in saying what ppl mean
Kalypso
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lean wrote:
kalypso wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
q**er is a slur so
it's a reclaimed slur just like the n word and f word
for personal use sure fine whatever but it shouldn't be used as an umbrella term or around people who have trauma related to the word..
like idk i would hate it if i saw a gay man call another gay man an f slur and the other one was like "hey i don't feel comfortable with that" and the first one just kept doing it.
i associate the f slur with a lot more stigma than i do with word queer, mainly bc the f slur is STILL being used as a slur today, where as i have never heard of anyone or read or experienced or whatever with queer being used as a slur, idk with you, if that's a different story or u acidreflux? but that is why see it as something that has been reclaimed "fully" and is okay to use
Pavlov
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kalypso wrote:
lean wrote:
kalypso wrote:
it's a reclaimed slur just like the n word and f word
for personal use sure fine whatever but it shouldn't be used as an umbrella term or around people who have trauma related to the word..
like idk i would hate it if i saw a gay man call another gay man an f slur and the other one was like "hey i don't feel comfortable with that" and the first one just kept doing it.
i associate the f slur with a lot more stigma than i do with word queer, mainly bc the f slur is STILL being used as a slur today, where as i have never heard of anyone or read or experienced or whatever with queer being used as a slur, idk with you, if that's a different story or u acidreflux? but that is why see it as something that has been reclaimed "fully" and is okay to use
aint almost all the terms associated with gay people originally a slur i dont get this conversation
BunnyButts
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acidreflux wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:

how?
Melk literally just told u you're just too blind by your close minded hatred to see anyone else points. How about stop gate keeping sexuality on the internet and actually do something productive for the community 

hatred? where's the hatred?
pls do provide quotes of said hatred.
Im pretty sure by default trying to exclude asexuality from the community built on acceptance is hatred but go off anyway go and do some community work if you want to involve yourself so deeply in what's okay or not
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BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Melk literally just told u you're just too blind by your close minded hatred to see anyone else points. How about stop gate keeping sexuality on the internet and actually do something productive for the community 

hatred? where's the hatred?
pls do provide quotes of said hatred.
Im pretty sure by default trying to exclude asexuality from the community built on acceptance is hatred but go off anyway go and do some community work if you want to involve yourself so deeply in what's okay or not
how is exlusion based on lack of sexual attracted closeminded hatred? where did i express closeminded hatred?
i would very much like to see what i said in this thread that qualifies as hatred towards asexuals.
Kalypso
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Pavlov wrote:
kalypso wrote:
lean wrote:
for personal use sure fine whatever but it shouldn't be used as an umbrella term or around people who have trauma related to the word..
like idk i would hate it if i saw a gay man call another gay man an f slur and the other one was like "hey i don't feel comfortable with that" and the first one just kept doing it.
i associate the f slur with a lot more stigma than i do with word queer, mainly bc the f slur is STILL being used as a slur today, where as i have never heard of anyone or read or experienced or whatever with queer being used as a slur, idk with you, if that's a different story or u acidreflux? but that is why see it as something that has been reclaimed "fully" and is okay to use
aint almost all the terms associated with gay people originally a slur i dont get this conversation
we are arguing whether or not it's okay to use as a umbrella term
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kalypso wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
kalypso wrote:
i associate the f slur with a lot more stigma than i do with word queer, mainly bc the f slur is STILL being used as a slur today, where as i have never heard of anyone or read or experienced or whatever with queer being used as a slur, idk with you, if that's a different story or u acidreflux? but that is why see it as something that has been reclaimed "fully" and is okay to use
aint almost all the terms associated with gay people originally a slur i dont get this conversation
we are arguing whether or not it's okay to use as a umbrella term

easy, it ain't.
u can use it for personal usage, but like not for everyone, since consent issues.
BunnyButts
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acidreflux wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:

hatred? where's the hatred?
pls do provide quotes of said hatred.
Im pretty sure by default trying to exclude asexuality from the community built on acceptance is hatred but go off anyway go and do some community work if you want to involve yourself so deeply in what's okay or not
how is exlusion based on lack of sexual attracted closeminded hatred? where did i express closeminded hatred?
i would very much like to see what i said in this thread that qualifies as hatred towards asexuals.
Lol alright damn you're so pressed on this how about you read back the thread but replace asexual with lesbian 
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BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Im pretty sure by default trying to exclude asexuality from the community built on acceptance is hatred but go off anyway go and do some community work if you want to involve yourself so deeply in what's okay or not
how is exlusion based on lack of sexual attracted closeminded hatred? where did i express closeminded hatred?
i would very much like to see what i said in this thread that qualifies as hatred towards asexuals.
Lol alright damn you're so pressed on this how about you read back the thread but replace asexual with lesbian 
i'm asking you, since you're the one who made the claim that i was expressing hatred towards asexuals. do you have proof to back up said claim?
BunnyButts
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acidreflux wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
how is exlusion based on lack of sexual attracted closeminded hatred? where did i express closeminded hatred?
i would very much like to see what i said in this thread that qualifies as hatred towards asexuals.
Lol alright damn you're so pressed on this how about you read back the thread but replace asexual with lesbian 
i'm asking you, since you're the one who made the claim that i was expressing hatred towards asexuals. do you have proof to back up said claim?
Ssorry babe I dont have time to entertain u go off tho if u dont think you're being a bitch about this
Pavlov
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kalypso wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
kalypso wrote:
i associate the f slur with a lot more stigma than i do with word queer, mainly bc the f slur is STILL being used as a slur today, where as i have never heard of anyone or read or experienced or whatever with queer being used as a slur, idk with you, if that's a different story or u acidreflux? but that is why see it as something that has been reclaimed "fully" and is okay to use
aint almost all the terms associated with gay people originally a slur i dont get this conversation
we are arguing whether or not it's okay to use as a umbrella term
wasnt gay also originally a slur
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BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Lol alright damn you're so pressed on this how about you read back the thread but replace asexual with lesbian 
i'm asking you, since you're the one who made the claim that i was expressing hatred towards asexuals. do you have proof to back up said claim?
Ssorry babe I dont have time to entertain u go off tho if u dont think you're being a bitch about this

how is asking for proof of a claim against my person, being a bitch? isn't it only resonable for me to actually know what constitutes as hatred towards asexuals, as the twitter folks would say, to further educate myself?
Lean
Streetmusician



kalypso wrote:
lean wrote:
kalypso wrote:
it's a reclaimed slur just like the n word and f word
for personal use sure fine whatever but it shouldn't be used as an umbrella term or around people who have trauma related to the word..
like idk i would hate it if i saw a gay man call another gay man an f slur and the other one was like "hey i don't feel comfortable with that" and the first one just kept doing it.
i associate the f slur with a lot more stigma than i do with word queer, mainly bc the f slur is STILL being used as a slur today, where as i have never heard of anyone or read or experienced or whatever with queer being used as a slur, idk with you, if that's a different story or u acidreflux? but that is why see it as something that has been reclaimed "fully" and is okay to use
i personally haven't because thankfully you wouldn't tell i like women unless i was out with my girlfriend but yes i know lots of people who have awful personal experiences with the word and cannot hear it.

i know a man who got jumped and the all yelled the q slur at him while beating him to a pulp and now he has legitimate trauma attached to the word and wouldn't you know it when he asks people not to use it as an umbrella term or around him (and why) they tell him it's reclaimed.
Lean
Streetmusician



BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Lol alright damn you're so pressed on this how about you read back the thread but replace asexual with lesbian 
i'm asking you, since you're the one who made the claim that i was expressing hatred towards asexuals. do you have proof to back up said claim?
Ssorry babe I dont have time to entertain u go off tho if u dont think you're being a bitch about this
you can't really make a finite statement and then not give legitimate reasoning, and then call people bitches for asking you to back up your claim. 
i see this a lot when this debate happens and it's basically

"yes ace people belong at pride"
"why?"
"because they're part of the lgbt[qiap2s+] community"
"why?"
"because they're descriminated against"
"how" 
"okay bye exclusionist gatekeeper, ace people are valid."
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lean wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
i'm asking you, since you're the one who made the claim that i was expressing hatred towards asexuals. do you have proof to back up said claim?
Ssorry babe I dont have time to entertain u go off tho if u dont think you're being a bitch about this
you can't really make a finite statement and then not give legitimate reasoning, and then call people bitches for asking you to back up your claim. 
i see this a lot when this debate happens and it's basically

"yes ace people belong at pride"
"why?"
"because they're part of the lgbt[qiap2s+] community"
"why?"
"because they're descriminated against"
"how" 
"okay bye exclusionist gatekeeper, ace people are valid."

also maybe don't go around calling other women for bitches when u disagree w them, eh?
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