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well if the us stops meddling w other countries politics, maybe then we'll shut up abt it. 
Marlene
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wait to make shit clear ure upset by the fact that europeans are making fun out of usa?
is it about politics or do you mean in general?
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Kit wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Kit wrote:
thats super condescending man, also im not trying to have a professional debate here im trying to rant a lil and express my emotions sorry im not "discussing" to ur standards but i have feelings ? and the idea that we can take emotions out of politics is an incredibly privileged one ngl
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ur telling me that by being emotional im being 'contra-productive' ? i'm explaining to u that my goals in this r different than i guess u think they should be ? my primary goal here isnt to have "a productive discussion" but to have a lil rant and express my feelings. in which case being emotional is perfectly productive. thats all
I'm not telling you personally anything, my claims are rather general and not meant as a personal attack on you. I would have addressed you with 2sg pronouns if I was talking directly to you. I wasn't. 
Kit
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Marlene wrote:
wait to make shit clear ure upset by the fact that europeans are making fun out of usa?
is it about politics or do you mean in general?
i'm upset that europeans are making fun of particular political developments in the US that have really severe consequences for americans, without thinking at all about those consequences. i think u can make fun of america and americans, no problem. i just think that doing it re: things like the upcoming election, covid, and other issues where actual human lives are implicated, is rly insensitive and upsetting
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i mean not gonna lie laughing at shithole countries like usa etc is insensitive and stupid.
like as you said people really live there and are affected by the horrible system and bad politics.
it’s nothing new and it’s the same with north korea, china etc very controlled and not so good places. americans laugh and look down on those countries too just like many europeans on america. It’s like the situation in those countries - and usa - is both concerning and ridicilous to people. It’s indeed insensitive and stupid but universal. 

so yea i get where you are coming from
Kit
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Raquelle wrote:
i mean not gonna lie laughing at shithole countries like usa etc is insensitive and stupid.
like as you said people really live there and are affected by the horrible system and bad politics.
it’s nothing new and it’s the same with north korea, china etc very controlled and not so good places. americans laugh and look down on those countries too just like many europeans on america. It’s like the situation in those countries - and usa - is both concerning and ridicilous to people. It’s indeed insensitive and stupid but universal. 

so yea i get where you are coming from
yh kldsfjl like i really am not saying america is special or europeans r the worst or anything its just what affects me the most ? like its what i observe and encounter in daily life

but yea thank u thats a good example ? like americans do it too rly heavily tbh, i'm really not trying to make them out to b the victim or anything just

idk imagine if i were hving a fuckin giggle about china's concentration camps the way europeans will abt america's immigration detention concentration camps . its just not appropriate 
Kit
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acidreflux wrote:
well if the us stops meddling w other countries politics, maybe then we'll shut up abt it. 
i don't agree with the argument that just because a country's leadership does bad things, the people of that country no longer deserve empathy
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Kit wrote:
Raquelle wrote:
i mean not gonna lie laughing at shithole countries like usa etc is insensitive and stupid.
like as you said people really live there and are affected by the horrible system and bad politics.
it’s nothing new and it’s the same with north korea, china etc very controlled and not so good places. americans laugh and look down on those countries too just like many europeans on america. It’s like the situation in those countries - and usa - is both concerning and ridicilous to people. It’s indeed insensitive and stupid but universal. 

so yea i get where you are coming from
yh kldsfjl like i really am not saying america is special or europeans r the worst or anything its just what affects me the most ? like its what i observe and encounter in daily life

but yea thank u thats a good example ? like americans do it too rly heavily tbh, i'm really not trying to make them out to b the victim or anything just

idk imagine if i were hving a fuckin giggle about china's concentration camps the way europeans will abt america's immigration detention concentration camps . its just not appropriate 
Yesss exactly i do understand you! 
Kit
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anyway its also personal to me bc i am the only half-american in my very large european family and i have been an outsider my whole life, continue to be treated as such, am constantly laughed at for any opinion i voice, and am used by them constantly to validate their bad takes and none of them make an effort to truly understand where we're coming from to the point where my sister basically doenst have any contact with any of them , so for a Lot of reasons this is actually v personal nd emotional to me ! idk 
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i get where you’re coming from but its not like americans don’t judge and/or laugh at foreign countries’ politics and events or whatever. literally everyone looks at other countries with completely different eyes, unaffected by the terror in those countries’ citizens

yes the usa gets more attention than any other country but it’s not the country didnt want attention. the usa is (in)famously attention seeking and we only pay so much attention because you wanted it in the first place

i do agree that making fun of horrible things like the immigration camps and school shootings and the whole corona hoax shit you’ve got going on is insensitive, but after a certain point, it’s like being angry about it for the people’s sake is useless. but i guarantee the majority does not think the deaths and terror is funny, but rather the circumstances that created it. because most of it was preventable, and that’s why we laugh.
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like ppl will talk over me or try to disagree w me when im talking about my own damn country nd like . im sorry but if u cant name more american politicians than trump, biden, clinton bernie, if u don't know how the electoral college works, if u don't know how the supreme court is composed, then maybe u are simply not informed enough to speak on american politics ? hot take i know
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when american election is on the literal syllabus in norwegian schools 🤓
Kit
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Trainor wrote:
i get where you’re coming from but its not like americans don’t judge and/or laugh at foreign countries’ politics and events or whatever. literally everyone looks at other countries with completely different eyes, unaffected by the terror in those countries’ citizens

yes the usa gets more attention than any other country but it’s not the country didnt want attention. the usa is (in)famously attention seeking and we only pay so much attention because you wanted it in the first place

i do agree that making fun of horrible things like the immigration camps and school shootings and the whole corona hoax shit you’ve got going on is insensitive, but after a certain point, it’s like being angry about it for the people’s sake is useless. but i guarantee the majority does not think the deaths and terror is funny, but rather the circumstances that created it. because most of it was preventable, and that’s why we laugh.
anyway im an american and i dont laugh at the national tragedies of other countries and i am not amused by mass death in other populations. cruelty and ignorance r not a natural state. idk 

like america is a farce ? yes lmao i know. i'm watching b4 my very eyes as the country seems to b fucking dissolving. but that still does not make it ok to laugh at tragedy bc it occurs in america, especially bc it's almost always as a means to make oneself feel better abt ur own country, i.e. europeans feeling damn good abt themselves bc god, america is such a mess cant believe so many ppl are dying, so glad we're better than all of them 
Kit
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kruspersille wrote:
when american election is on the literal syllabus in norwegian schools 🤓

can't decide if that's horrifying bc i cannot imagine a world in which that should be an educational priority for y'all

or if it's a damn good thing bc at least y'all might be a lil more informed
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kruspersille wrote:
when american election is on the literal syllabus in norwegian schools 🤓
I literally just had it 
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