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BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
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Hm yeah but no I don't agree, sure evil is a very simplified term for the complexity of the situation but still I think it doesn't do any harm and also ppl must b able to have some common sense themselves. Like in the stanford prison experiment the whole gimmick of "how good ppl turn evil" i s the entire slogan and all right, but they still go in depth abt why and how what happened, happened. Not like uwuw this person is evil now hence everyone is evil, but how the role as a prison guard made them turn evil in the moment. Iss interesting. 
no the standford experiment was a terrible excuse for an experiment and was how do people do bad not good turn bad - regular humans do bad and its all of why they did it that is important - they acted how they thought the people wanted, they thought it was the prisoners fault, they were just actting on orders. this is about compliance to orders not on good v evil 
To what orders tho, the guards were not ordered to behave the way they did, and the prisoners were going against what they had been told in admission. Tho ofc its not a well done or ethical experiment, u still can't dismiss everything that came off it, esp as u see the same type of things in effects in prisons today, esp in america 
The experimenter was in the prison, after explaining everything they could do to the prisoners to keep the peace its not a shock if the guards acted based on what they thought the experimenter wanted
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:28
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BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
they failed scientifically but its intreseting seeing people collective act in complince to what they think the group wants them to do and thats the real problem not people hold evil in them - they are willing to do anything not to be excluded 
Yeah this is literally waht I said in my first comment tho lol. Most ppl won't do evil stuff unprovoked, but that doesn't mean they r not capable of doing it 
no Im saying no one is capable of doing evil - they are doing things to not get excluded, even against their judgement 
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:29
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BunnyButts wrote:
also ouch I agree fuck prisons, prisoners should be treated far better and given the ability to grow and not be outcasted from society 
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:31
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ouch wrote:
Claire wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
no the standford experiment was a terrible excuse for an experiment and was how do people do bad not good turn bad - regular humans do bad and its all of why they did it that is important - they acted how they thought the people wanted, they thought it was the prisoners fault, they were just actting on orders. this is about compliance to orders not on good v evil 
To what orders tho, the guards were not ordered to behave the way they did, and the prisoners were going against what they had been told in admission. Tho ofc its not a well done or ethical experiment, u still can't dismiss everything that came off it, esp as u see the same type of things in effects in prisons today, esp in america 
no they were absolutely encouraged to act the way they did they were coached

www.vox.com/2018/6/13/17449118/stanford-prison-experiment-fraud-psychology-replication
Still tho, u don't think it says smth abt humans when we see the same thing in the real world all the time ? Im not saying believe everything blindly but to ignore it is smth else 
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ouch wrote:
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also ouch I agree fuck prisons, prisoners should be treated far better and given the ability to grow and not be outcasted from society 
Yes norway thanks 
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:32
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ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
they failed scientifically but its intreseting seeing people collective act in complince to what they think the group wants them to do and thats the real problem not people hold evil in them - they are willing to do anything not to be excluded 
Yeah this is literally waht I said in my first comment tho lol. Most ppl won't do evil stuff unprovoked, but that doesn't mean they r not capable of doing it 
no Im saying no one is capable of doing evil - they are doing things to not get excluded, even against their judgement 
Yeah they r still doing it
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:32
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Claire wrote:
ok another thought from the radfem part of my brain

why are we always looking at the actions of MEN and acting like it says anything about HUMANITY? 
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:33
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BunnyButts wrote:
Claire wrote:
ok another thought from the radfem part of my brain

why are we always looking at the actions of MEN and acting like it says anything about HUMANITY? 
I was thinking that during the standford video like huh what if it was all women
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idk what the context of this thread is 3 pages in but i think that mayb humanity is nice or whateva and ofc there's good people out there but i think everyone is capable of evil i guess (and even thinking about doing evil/immoral stuff), but not everyone lets that consume them and

no sorry i misunderstood <\3
Date: 28-02-2021 19:36
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
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Yeah this is literally waht I said in my first comment tho lol. Most ppl won't do evil stuff unprovoked, but that doesn't mean they r not capable of doing it 
no Im saying no one is capable of doing evil - they are doing things to not get excluded, even against their judgement 
Yeah they r still doing it
look if you want to think people are capable of doing evil fine, but Im just here saying its a slipperly slope to ignoring why, how and what you can do to avoid just like blindly doing harm under the gauze of orders
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:36
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Azriel wrote:
Claire wrote:
Like every human is capable of evil ACTS that doesn't mean any individual human is EVIL. I don't think you can ascribe a trait like EVIL to a person but to an act. Like idk EVIL is a moral judgment what is it psychology's business to ascribe moral judgement to anything? 
I agree w this
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:36
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BunnyButts wrote:
Heaven wrote:
idk what the context of this thread is 3 pages in but i think that mayb humanity is nice or whateva and ofc there's good people out there but i think everyone is capable of evil i guess (and even thinking about doing evil/immoral stuff), but not everyone lets that consume them and

no sorry i misunderstood <\3
dont worry sorry Im festering over some class work 
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:38
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claire is very based and i hate using this word allegedly
Date: 28-02-2021 19:38
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Heaven wrote:
claire is very based and i hate using this word allegedly
lol claire is very smart and Im glad I have her to translate my angy rambles
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Date: 28-02-2021 19:39
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ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
no Im saying no one is capable of doing evil - they are doing things to not get excluded, even against their judgement 
Yeah they r still doing it
look if you want to think people are capable of doing evil fine, but Im just here saying its a slipperly slope to ignoring why, how and what you can do to avoid just like blindly doing harm under the gauze of orders
And i didn't say u should ignore everything else so I rlly don't see the problem here lmao 
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