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when u criticize capitalism
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Pavlov wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
I do art in relation to community enrichment projects, healing, education, etc.
I get grants for it from nonprofits.
commissions aren't the only way (I fucking hate doing commissions) 

that being said, none of us chose capitalism, it happened around us, and we still gotta feed, clothe, and house ourselves, and shouldn't feel guilt for having to give into a system we never actually had a say in. 
You gotta do what you gotta do
isnt getting money for something a commission
I guess when I hear commission I think of someone asking me to make them something and giving it to them.
I rarely, if ever exchange a physical piece of my art for money.
I more get paid for the activities surrounding it
but I understand what you mean
Pavlov
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like when we discuss racism its always "u benefit from institutional racism therefore u are responsible in the existence of it" wouldnt the same apply to capitalism
Pavlov
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Barbarella wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
I do art in relation to community enrichment projects, healing, education, etc.
I get grants for it from nonprofits.
commissions aren't the only way (I fucking hate doing commissions) 

that being said, none of us chose capitalism, it happened around us, and we still gotta feed, clothe, and house ourselves, and shouldn't feel guilt for having to give into a system we never actually had a say in. 
You gotta do what you gotta do
isnt getting money for something a commission
I guess when I hear commission I think of someone asking me to make them something and giving it to them.
I rarely, if ever exchange a physical piece of my art for money.
I more get paid for the activities surrounding it
but I understand what you mean
well then ur service isnt the art itself its more therapy and health related so ur service is not completely useless
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Pavlov wrote:
like when we dicuss racism its always "u benefit from institutional racism therefore u are responsible in the existence of it" wouldnt the same apply to capitalism
yeah, if you're white you benefit from institutional racism - but you can't exactly just stop being white.

same with benefiting from capitalism, I fuckin hate it but how can I just stop participating in it?
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Pavlov wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
isnt getting money for something a commission
I guess when I hear commission I think of someone asking me to make them something and giving it to them.
I rarely, if ever exchange a physical piece of my art for money.
I more get paid for the activities surrounding it
but I understand what you mean
well then ur service isnt the art itself its more therapy and health related so ur service is not completely useless
I'd never have gained the skills to share had I not practiced the craft, which society still saw as useless in the time it wasn't making me money lol
Pavlov
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Barbarella wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
like when we dicuss racism its always "u benefit from institutional racism therefore u are responsible in the existence of it" wouldnt the same apply to capitalism
yeah, if you're white you benefit from institutional racism - but you can't exactly just stop being white.

same with benefiting from capitalism, I fuckin hate it but how can I just stop participating in it?
cant u use the same excuse about racism
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
like when we dicuss racism its always "u benefit from institutional racism therefore u are responsible in the existence of it" wouldnt the same apply to capitalism
yeah, if you're white you benefit from institutional racism - but you can't exactly just stop being white.

same with benefiting from capitalism, I fuckin hate it but how can I just stop participating in it?
cant u use the same excuse about racism
"nah sorry i hate racism but i didnt make the rules"
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my last thought on the subject bc I am very tired and smelly and need to take care of my necessities 

Pavlov
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Barbarella wrote:
my last thought on the subject bc I am very tired and smelly and need to take care of my necessities 

well u can be an artist but u would also need a job which produces something that helps u survive like a house or food
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Pavlov wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
my last thought on the subject bc I am very tired and smelly and need to take care of my necessities 

well u can be an artist but u would also need a job which produces something that helps u survive like a house or food
I can think of a fuck ton of jobs out there that don't produce jack shit anyone needs to survive lol
Pavlov
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Barbarella wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
my last thought on the subject bc I am very tired and smelly and need to take care of my necessities 

well u can be an artist but u would also need a job which produces something that helps u survive like a house or food
I can think of a fuck ton of jobs out there that don't produce jack shit anyone needs to survive lol
im talking about in the ideal society where everyone makes what they should make based on the contributions and time they spend on their work
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y'all making these threads while our resident communist is gone is rlly a tragedy
BunnyButts
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huh
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
well u can be an artist but u would also need a job which produces something that helps u survive like a house or food
I can think of a fuck ton of jobs out there that don't produce jack shit anyone needs to survive lol
im talking about in the ideal society where everyone makes what they should make based on the contributions and time they spend on their work
this thread isnt about "wow artists are useless" its about how it is a service that benefits from capitalism and exists because of different social classes
BunnyButts
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pavlov again I love you but you need to read about communism/ anticaptialist theory first
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