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Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
 That's another reason journaling and tracking moods is so important. 

This 

I'm starting a mood log tomorrow to track my stress and anxiety triggers and also cuz of hypomania concerns 

I dont really see it so I was like you know what I'll email my therapist the log every 3-4 days and you guys can decide if my "normal" periods are hypomania or w/e, she said it's a great idea and she will link it to my psychiatrist 

I personally think bipolar II is overdiagnosed especially in borderline patients (which I think i have traits of) so they could also probably catch borderline moods too 
I feel like a lot of people who are diagnosed bipolar actually have cyclothymia but I'm not a doctor and nobody asked me lol
Well my therapist said like, she thinks it's probably cyclothymia or bipolar II, probably bipolar II because my depression is full blown 

So she is very aware at least

Sorry op hijacking ur thread 
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:26
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
 That's another reason journaling and tracking moods is so important. 

This 

I'm starting a mood log tomorrow to track my stress and anxiety triggers and also cuz of hypomania concerns 

I dont really see it so I was like you know what I'll email my therapist the log every 3-4 days and you guys can decide if my "normal" periods are hypomania or w/e, she said it's a great idea and she will link it to my psychiatrist 

I personally think bipolar II is overdiagnosed especially in borderline patients (which I think i have traits of) so they could also probably catch borderline moods too 
borderline is more therapy treatment whereas bipolar is more drug treatment, yeah? pills are easier I guess for lazy doctors lol
Yes 

I'm ngl think ppl are often overmedicated because doctors are lazy as you said, but I honestly think some ppl really need drugs 

In my case I think so, I usually just self medicate with alcohol, think it's a sign my brain hates me, but I am really lucky my psychiatrist seems to agree that daily habits like sleep hygiene and stress management are crucial 

OP I do get your fear and ngl think many doctors are drug pushers 

However be open to everything while also practicing self management, experimenting with drugs until they stick is annoying but the goal is to feel better 
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:31
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bee wrote:
thank you for all the input guys. im still torn on what i want to do but i have a lot of things to take into consideration now. my next appointment at the psychiatrist is in two weeks so i still have time to think. also i seriously didnt like the psychiatrist who is prescribing me meds. he was mean and i felt so uncomfortable and he nearly made me cry like ten times in 60 minutes. i dont want him to handle my case but getting another one would take months, i was really lucky my therapist knew the psychiatrist so she made him schedule an appointment within three weeks when he has a 6-8 months waiting list. me not liking the psychiatrist makes everything worse too, like i feel so unsafe. so theres that : /
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:32
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
bee wrote:
thank you for all the input guys. im still torn on what i want to do but i have a lot of things to take into consideration now. my next appointment at the psychiatrist is in two weeks so i still have time to think. also i seriously didnt like the psychiatrist who is prescribing me meds. he was mean and i felt so uncomfortable and he nearly made me cry like ten times in 60 minutes. i dont want him to handle my case but getting another one would take months, i was really lucky my therapist knew the psychiatrist so she made him schedule an appointment within three weeks when he has a 6-8 months waiting list. me not liking the psychiatrist makes everything worse too, like i feel so unsafe. so theres that : /
I would tell your therapist this 
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:33
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Barbarella wrote:
bee wrote:
thank you for all the input guys. im still torn on what i want to do but i have a lot of things to take into consideration now. my next appointment at the psychiatrist is in two weeks so i still have time to think. also i seriously didnt like the psychiatrist who is prescribing me meds. he was mean and i felt so uncomfortable and he nearly made me cry like ten times in 60 minutes. i dont want him to handle my case but getting another one would take months, i was really lucky my therapist knew the psychiatrist so she made him schedule an appointment within three weeks when he has a 6-8 months waiting list. me not liking the psychiatrist makes everything worse too, like i feel so unsafe. so theres that : /
big red flags there...

if you don't wanna take the meds anyways, or don't trust him, then it's worth getting on a wait list for another one but continuing to keep appointments with your therapist.  Maybe talk to your therapist about how the psychiatrist made you feel...
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:34
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Anachronism wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
But op mood logs are great and they help identify patterns 

I used to log my panic attacks and limited symptom attacks and it made me realize that PMS is a trigger 

Also helps you track medication side effects 

You may want to ask your psychiatrist if you can send them some, many appreciate it from experience
Dude I'm just now learning that PMS is a trigger for my all-over body pain that was (likely misdiagnosed) supposedly fibromyalgia.
like I have lots of old injuries, and I finally realized the pain  with PMS was actually different pain from just my old injuries. I thought it was all the same.

woulda saved me some hell if I JOURNALED 
Yeah mood journaling is amazing I reccomend it for everyone its educational 
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bee wrote:
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 i never had problems when i was on cymbalta, and it's one of the few meds i've taken that help make me sleepy without making me feel terrible the morning after. 

i know it can be hard to talk about it, especially if what you're treating is anxiety, but your concerns are valid and medical professionals need to respect how their patients feel and be willing to have a conversation with them, that should be the bare minimum.  that being said, i would call/schedule an appointment and maybe request they start you out at a low dosage or that you try another SNRI?
he literally gave me the choice between sertraline and duloxetine and i chose the second option cus i have already tried sertraline and it didn't do much. i kinda got the impression that these were the two meds he was working with, i dont think there would be another option
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:36
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Anachronism wrote:
bee wrote:
i dont know why this is so hard for me, like i really want to get better and get an actual life, i have lost so much already... but the thought of meds give me full out panic attacks every night. im so scared of it. and i remember the five years i was on meds before, it was fucking hard and im so exhausted physically and mentally and i dont wanna do it all again...
Tho I will say I think anxiety scares ppl into doing helpful things 

I was terrified to take my ativan until I did and it worked 

But your psychiatrist gives me bad vibes
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Barbarella wrote:
bee wrote:
Strawbee wrote:
 i never had problems when i was on cymbalta, and it's one of the few meds i've taken that help make me sleepy without making me feel terrible the morning after. 

i know it can be hard to talk about it, especially if what you're treating is anxiety, but your concerns are valid and medical professionals need to respect how their patients feel and be willing to have a conversation with them, that should be the bare minimum.  that being said, i would call/schedule an appointment and maybe request they start you out at a low dosage or that you try another SNRI?
he literally gave me the choice between sertraline and duloxetine and i chose the second option cus i have already tried sertraline and it didn't do much. i kinda got the impression that these were the two meds he was working with, i dont think there would be another option
I don't feel right about psychiatrists prescribing meds on day one unless someone is in serious crisis...
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bee wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
bee wrote:
thank you for all the input guys. im still torn on what i want to do but i have a lot of things to take into consideration now. my next appointment at the psychiatrist is in two weeks so i still have time to think. also i seriously didnt like the psychiatrist who is prescribing me meds. he was mean and i felt so uncomfortable and he nearly made me cry like ten times in 60 minutes. i dont want him to handle my case but getting another one would take months, i was really lucky my therapist knew the psychiatrist so she made him schedule an appointment within three weeks when he has a 6-8 months waiting list. me not liking the psychiatrist makes everything worse too, like i feel so unsafe. so theres that : /
I would tell your therapist this 
i told my therapist about it today, but she still recommended me to go through with it. she told me he was one of the greatest psychiatrists in my city and suggested that maybe i saw him as unfriendly and unwelcoming because i was really anxious and have trust issues with doctors. she told me a lot of people really liked him. idk really 
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:40
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
bee wrote:
Strawbee wrote:
 i never had problems when i was on cymbalta, and it's one of the few meds i've taken that help make me sleepy without making me feel terrible the morning after. 

i know it can be hard to talk about it, especially if what you're treating is anxiety, but your concerns are valid and medical professionals need to respect how their patients feel and be willing to have a conversation with them, that should be the bare minimum.  that being said, i would call/schedule an appointment and maybe request they start you out at a low dosage or that you try another SNRI?
he literally gave me the choice between sertraline and duloxetine and i chose the second option cus i have already tried sertraline and it didn't do much. i kinda got the impression that these were the two meds he was working with, i dont think there would be another option
Did he say why? 

Ask why they want you on certain drugs and never be afraid to ask for another option 

I had a psychiatrist afraid to give me an SSRI for hypomania concerns and I was like "I think I was misdiagnosed, can we try just the ssri? If I act hypomanic I will take a mood stabilizer" and he agreed 

You have to learn to be assertive. Also I would tell him ur pasr reactions to the sertraline if you havent already 
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:41
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bee wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
bee wrote:
thank you for all the input guys. im still torn on what i want to do but i have a lot of things to take into consideration now. my next appointment at the psychiatrist is in two weeks so i still have time to think. also i seriously didnt like the psychiatrist who is prescribing me meds. he was mean and i felt so uncomfortable and he nearly made me cry like ten times in 60 minutes. i dont want him to handle my case but getting another one would take months, i was really lucky my therapist knew the psychiatrist so she made him schedule an appointment within three weeks when he has a 6-8 months waiting list. me not liking the psychiatrist makes everything worse too, like i feel so unsafe. so theres that : /
big red flags there...

if you don't wanna take the meds anyways, or don't trust him, then it's worth getting on a wait list for another one but continuing to keep appointments with your therapist.  Maybe talk to your therapist about how the psychiatrist made you feel...
i have been trying to get meds since june 2020, i have had a lot of waiting time and a few bad experiences but finally im here so i dont know if its worth waiting more... i dont know..... 
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Date: 29-03-2021 23:42
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
bee wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
bee wrote:
thank you for all the input guys. im still torn on what i want to do but i have a lot of things to take into consideration now. my next appointment at the psychiatrist is in two weeks so i still have time to think. also i seriously didnt like the psychiatrist who is prescribing me meds. he was mean and i felt so uncomfortable and he nearly made me cry like ten times in 60 minutes. i dont want him to handle my case but getting another one would take months, i was really lucky my therapist knew the psychiatrist so she made him schedule an appointment within three weeks when he has a 6-8 months waiting list. me not liking the psychiatrist makes everything worse too, like i feel so unsafe. so theres that : /
I would tell your therapist this 
i told my therapist about it today, but she still recommended me to go through with it. she told me he was one of the greatest psychiatrists in my city and suggested that maybe i saw him as unfriendly and unwelcoming because i was really anxious and have trust issues with doctors. she told me a lot of people really liked him. idk really 
Hhonestly it is very possible your anxiety is making you uneasy. I've been there. I was afraid to take ativan because of my anxiety but my fears were unfounded and I'm glad I did.

But if stuff still goes south hire someone else. Just cuz hes good at his job doesnt mean hes right for you. 
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Entheos wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
bee wrote:
Strawbee wrote:
 i never had problems when i was on cymbalta, and it's one of the few meds i've taken that help make me sleepy without making me feel terrible the morning after. 

i know it can be hard to talk about it, especially if what you're treating is anxiety, but your concerns are valid and medical professionals need to respect how their patients feel and be willing to have a conversation with them, that should be the bare minimum.  that being said, i would call/schedule an appointment and maybe request they start you out at a low dosage or that you try another SNRI?
he literally gave me the choice between sertraline and duloxetine and i chose the second option cus i have already tried sertraline and it didn't do much. i kinda got the impression that these were the two meds he was working with, i dont think there would be another option
Did he say why? 

Ask why they want you on certain drugs and never be afraid to ask for another option 

I had a psychiatrist afraid to give me an SSRI for hypomania concerns and I was like "I think I was misdiagnosed, can we try just the ssri? If I act hypomanic I will take a mood stabilizer" and he agreed 

You have to learn to be assertive. Also I would tell him ur pasr reactions to the sertraline if you havent already 
this is very important. you know what it's like to be in your brain and body better than anyone else and doctors should listen to what you have to say, you're not being a difficult patient because you have to make them respect you i promise. 
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bee wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
bee wrote:
Strawbee wrote:
 i never had problems when i was on cymbalta, and it's one of the few meds i've taken that help make me sleepy without making me feel terrible the morning after. 

i know it can be hard to talk about it, especially if what you're treating is anxiety, but your concerns are valid and medical professionals need to respect how their patients feel and be willing to have a conversation with them, that should be the bare minimum.  that being said, i would call/schedule an appointment and maybe request they start you out at a low dosage or that you try another SNRI?
he literally gave me the choice between sertraline and duloxetine and i chose the second option cus i have already tried sertraline and it didn't do much. i kinda got the impression that these were the two meds he was working with, i dont think there would be another option
I don't feel right about psychiatrists prescribing meds on day one unless someone is in serious crisis...
the first thing he told me when i sat down in his office was that he doesnt prescribe meds right away lol. he explained how he wanted me to work with my anxiety and if it didnt improve he could maybe prescribe me meds. but after an hour he was like oh well do you want this or that. i think he at least could see that i have lost all quality of life, and it was what i wanted at that moment 
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