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Snusmumrikken wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
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Everyone pretends to be better than what they are, we will never know exactly how others perceive themselves, the illusion created by how you present yourself is everything ngl 
True actually
I mean when I say confidence is everything I'm not joking, my best grades are when I've just improvised myself through something radiating confidence 
I'll try this!! Thank you :-D
Date: 02-05-2021 15:33
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acidreflux wrote:
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yeah
but also an outsider perspective is needed as well.
to return to the op, ppl who don't have empathy or even sympathy for the ones in rehab and wards, shouldn't be in there in the first place. it's such at odds w the entire idea of caregiving and facility guidance.
i know some just want to "observe" the crazy at first hand, but treating mentally ill ppl and drug addicts as zoo animals, isn't helping anyone.
Freud the world don't need any more Freuds

the world doesn't need any males in medical fields periodt.
No not this again, we need men and women cus some r unable to get treated by women and some by men
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Date: 02-05-2021 15:33
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wug wrote:
ouch wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Freud the world don't need any more Freuds

the world doesn't need any males in medical fields periodt.
No not this again, we need men and women cus some r unable to get treated by women and some by men
No point, if she could kill all men she would 
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Date: 02-05-2021 15:34
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I don't mind ppl having no empathy tho, liek therapists n stuff, as long as they r able to not b a dick or stupid which doesn't necessarily go hand in hand either way, but I guess it depends what type of therapist u r after too
Yeah
I think people can lack empathy but still understand how to understand by just using common sense. You can use your brain to underatand you don't necessarily need the emotions of it. Idk if that made sense but yes I agree
Date: 02-05-2021 15:34
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ouch wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Freud the world don't need any more Freuds

the world doesn't need any males in medical fields periodt.
No not this again, we need men and women cus some r unable to get treated by women and some by men

in relation to freud, not allowing men near vulnerable women is a good thing.
Date: 02-05-2021 15:34
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ouch wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
ouch wrote:
acidreflux wrote:

the world doesn't need any males in medical fields periodt.
No not this again, we need men and women cus some r unable to get treated by women and some by men
No point, if she could kill all men she would 
I know but that would b worse for women so no logic
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Date: 02-05-2021 15:34
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I don't mind ppl having no empathy tho, liek therapists n stuff, as long as they r able to not b a dick or stupid which doesn't necessarily go hand in hand either way, but I guess it depends what type of therapist u r after too
Yeah
I think people can lack empathy but still understand how to understand by just using common sense. You can use your brain to underatand you don't necessarily need the emotions of it. Idk if that made sense but yes I agree
Me lacking a vocabulary
Date: 02-05-2021 15:36
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ouch wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
ouch wrote:
I don't mind ppl having no empathy tho, liek therapists n stuff, as long as they r able to not b a dick or stupid which doesn't necessarily go hand in hand either way, but I guess it depends what type of therapist u r after too
Yeah
I think people can lack empathy but still understand how to understand by just using common sense. You can use your brain to underatand you don't necessarily need the emotions of it. Idk if that made sense but yes I agree
Me lacking a vocabulary
It made sense at least lol
but yeah, also it depends if u want logical support, or emotional support. Yes 
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Date: 02-05-2021 15:37
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Also, I've always thought that being too empathic will make it harder for you in the field. It must be incredibly draining. You need a psyche made of steel to get through a day with all the shit you witness on a daily basis if you're an emotional being (depending a bit in exactly what you do though but in general)
Date: 02-05-2021 15:40
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wug wrote:
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Also, I've always thought that being too empathic will make it harder for you in the field. It must be incredibly draining. You need a psyche made of steel to get through a day with all the shit you witness on a daily basis if you're an emotional being (depending a bit in exactly what you do though but in general)
yeah
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Date: 02-05-2021 15:43
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Also, I've always thought that being too empathic will make it harder for you in the field. It must be incredibly draining. You need a psyche made of steel to get through a day with all the shit you witness on a daily basis if you're an emotional being (depending a bit in exactly what you do though but in general)

i think it also comes down to seperating professional and personal lives, that leaving some of the stuff in your office or in your notes so you don't heave it home.
Date: 02-05-2021 15:44
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Iotus wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
With people who has studied shit like psychology yet still managed to show -666 in actual knowledge and understanding of anything related to mental illness

Comes to show that just because you study something there is no guarantee you'll ever gain intelligence wth and especially sympathy

You ''study'' it yet still decide what mental illness and conditions you want to be understanding of? boi
!!! couldnt agree more! specially when it come to kids mental health services. in the uk we have CAMHs and tbf the staff are undertrained and underfunded. i swear the attitude there is “its fine theyre just children theyre just young and over emotional we dont have to tale them too seriously. ive had so many ppl in that service discredit my experiences while having a whole ass degree on it. i had a therapist prescribe me anti depressants, i bad side effects and attempted to OD, told her this and she acknowledged it AND JUST UPED MY DOSAGE despite the fact i told here they werent mixing with me well. youll never guess what i did after that :) its so dangerous to have ppl like that in mh
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Date: 02-05-2021 16:21
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Iotus wrote:
ouch wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Freud the world don't need any more Freuds

the world doesn't need any males in medical fields periodt.
No not this again, we need men and women cus some r unable to get treated by women and some by men
okay yes that is true but sadly the experience is that male doctors (usually  white and cis worse if theyre over the age of 30) arent really empathetic when it comes to being a doctor. i know so many women along with myself who prefer to speak to a woman when it comes to seeing the doctor (specially mental health), not for the soul reason we feel more comfortable but because we actually feel understood?
i have gone into my doctors on the verge of a break down extremely suicidal breaking down in front of my doctor asking for some kind of help (my therapy had been messed up due to another case of someone with a degree in psychology completely discrediting my experience) and man did nothing just sent me out the clinic to go home n deal with it myself. he looked so annoyed that he, a doctor, had to deal with me being a ill? same doctor did the exact same thing when i came in abt my excema and he, again, didnt really help at all. i was explaining that my excema (didnt know it at the time) cant be scabies because ive had it too long and no one in my family gets it bar me. he ignored me prescribed me scabies cream anyway. had a (female!) trainee doctor not been there to learn and had she not suggest the creams i use now (which arent the most ideal because that man cba with me he wanted me out asap so i never was assessed properly but they were the best i could do) id just be burning all the time (i am tbf). i told him it was related to unknown allergies too because i always flared up after and he ignored that so now i also have an allergy ive no clue what it is. it took me a year to find out what it actually was up by myself and all i had to do was a google search and now i know what creams i need to ask for?. ive seen another male doctor about my adhd diagnosis. although i havent been diagnosed the symptoms are there and extremely prominent since childhood. he was an arse abt it. kept trying to tell me it was depression despite telling him my mum has it i act like her and also the symptoms started way before my mental health issues began. after he saw i wasnt budging from the idea of me having adhd he got so annoyed with me? was all “i genuinely just think its your mental health hers the form but i dont seen why your bothering”. i havent been to get an adhd diagnosis since because the way he treated me made me feel it wasnt even worth it even though now ive rlly come to terms with the fact i most likely do have it and im getting checked. that was 2 years ago... i would have been diagnosed and probably medicated rn : )))

the worst case ive experienced though is when it came to my mum. she had sepsis really bad and the male doctors completely ignored how ill she was. she was in hospital too which is mad. it took a female nurse coming to give her something to realise she was really bad. like really bad. had that nurse not done anything i dont even know if id still have a mum.

its actually mental how men have failed sm ill women lol
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Date: 02-05-2021 16:52 | Times changed: 1
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Iotus wrote:
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my friend is a childrens therapist and she has absolutely no empathy or understanding for the addictions or mental illnesses of their parents and I'm always thinking to myself "fuck I'm so glad you only work with kids" lol
her husband is also a therapist
they're a hot mess at each others throats and don't go to couples therapy themselves


wow I'm glad no one I know is on VP
Scary how common this is.....
My aunt used to work as a nurse or whatever at psych wards and she is absolutely a terrible person I don't understand how it happens
okay but this reminded me why do all the mean girls from highschool turn into nurses? like they are the least empathetic people
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Date: 02-05-2021 16:55
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i know right. i feel like people don't rly understand that healthcare professionals can also be bad at their job
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