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nordic model of s*x work
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hate the religion .... love the religious as they say... or however that quote goes
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Like, realistically it's the best thing to do so I'm glad Israel follows the Nordic model. It's definitely much better than the American stance on prostitution, one which is, by the way, shared by countries like Iran, which is just lovely. I just, I don't know. I feel like there's always gonna be someone who wants to be a prostitute? So like, for that person, that sucks. Also there are always going to be people selling their bodies in one way or another, oldest profession blah blah blah, so I think instead of shaming people for doing so we should like, educate about the implications, whatever they may be. Maybe make it a license thing? I don't know, it's tough. Of course, sex workers are more often than not victims of several different forms of abuse so it's hard to say anything other than abolition is good but there's a lot of things to consider, it's not really a black and white thing. It's very much an intersectional thing regarding gender and sex, obviously, but also sexuality and race. Like, trans sex workers are really in the shit, male sex workers are really in the shit, black sex workers are really in the shit, it's just a lot. I don't think I'm making any sense lol oops.
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idk theres some arguements that the nordic model somehow makes prostitutes more likely to like be victims of violence but they literally already are more likely to be victims of violence and if the men are criminalized and they aren't they can go to the police about violence. the counterarguements just dont make sense to me.
yeah i think it is a plan, but also maybe not for US, since there the police are already distrusted by marginalized people (and not without reason)
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Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Like, realistically it's the best thing to do so I'm glad Israel follows the Nordic model. It's definitely much better than the American stance on prostitution, one which is, by the way, shared by countries like Iran, which is just lovely. I just, I don't know. I feel like there's always gonna be someone who wants to be a prostitute? So like, for that person, that sucks. Also there are always going to be people selling their bodies in one way or another, oldest profession blah blah blah, so I think instead of shaming people for doing so we should like, educate about the implications, whatever they may be. Maybe make it a license thing? I don't know, it's tough. Of course, sex workers are more often than not victims of several different forms of abuse so it's hard to say anything other than abolition is good but there's a lot of things to consider, it's not really a black and white thing. It's very much an intersectional thing regarding gender and sex, obviously, but also sexuality and race. Like, trans sex workers are really in the shit, male sex workers are really in the shit, black sex workers are really in the shit, it's just a lot. I don't think I'm making any sense lol oops.
i hate the oldest profession line it's theoldest oppression. 
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Claire wrote:
Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Like, realistically it's the best thing to do so I'm glad Israel follows the Nordic model. It's definitely much better than the American stance on prostitution, one which is, by the way, shared by countries like Iran, which is just lovely. I just, I don't know. I feel like there's always gonna be someone who wants to be a prostitute? So like, for that person, that sucks. Also there are always going to be people selling their bodies in one way or another, oldest profession blah blah blah, so I think instead of shaming people for doing so we should like, educate about the implications, whatever they may be. Maybe make it a license thing? I don't know, it's tough. Of course, sex workers are more often than not victims of several different forms of abuse so it's hard to say anything other than abolition is good but there's a lot of things to consider, it's not really a black and white thing. It's very much an intersectional thing regarding gender and sex, obviously, but also sexuality and race. Like, trans sex workers are really in the shit, male sex workers are really in the shit, black sex workers are really in the shit, it's just a lot. I don't think I'm making any sense lol oops.
i hate the oldest profession line it's theoldest oppression. 
but yea alam youre making sense.

any sort of uhm how do you say it like identity intersection amplifies the danger of sex work. 
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Koolaid wrote:
the hardest thing is when ur ugly and advocating against porn and men  are like "ur just an insecure girlfriend lololol" or when women are like "u just wish u were them" yes YES I DO THATS THE PROBLEM. I WANT TO FEEL SEXUAL BY SOCIETY AND I SHOULDNT
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Koolaid wrote:
white liberal hippie feminists waving "PEG THE PATRIARCHY" flags they get from amazon literally think they did something... while they do absolutely nothing and drag us back 50 years
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ouch wrote:
Whats the criticism 
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Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Like, realistically it's the best thing to do so I'm glad Israel follows the Nordic model. It's definitely much better than the American stance on prostitution, one which is, by the way, shared by countries like Iran, which is just lovely. I just, I don't know. I feel like there's always gonna be someone who wants to be a prostitute? So like, for that person, that sucks. Also there are always going to be people selling their bodies in one way or another, oldest profession blah blah blah, so I think instead of shaming people for doing so we should like, educate about the implications, whatever they may be. Maybe make it a license thing? I don't know, it's tough. Of course, sex workers are more often than not victims of several different forms of abuse so it's hard to say anything other than abolition is good but there's a lot of things to consider, it's not really a black and white thing. It's very much an intersectional thing regarding gender and sex, obviously, but also sexuality and race. Like, trans sex workers are really in the shit, male sex workers are really in the shit, black sex workers are really in the shit, it's just a lot. I don't think I'm making any sense lol oops.
i hate the oldest profession line it's theoldest oppression. 
but yea alam youre making sense.

any sort of uhm how do you say it like identity intersection amplifies the danger of sex work. 
I just like
I don't want to make an argument or come off the wrong way but I don't think it's as easy as saying it's oppressive to women.... Like, it's not a problem exclusive to women but also that doesn't mean it's not a women's rights issue but also also I think something can be bad without there being a whole overarching thing causing it, you know? I can't piece together my opinions in words but I swear I have opinions lol
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Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
Claire wrote:
i hate the oldest profession line it's theoldest oppression. 
but yea alam youre making sense.

any sort of uhm how do you say it like identity intersection amplifies the danger of sex work. 
I just like
I don't want to make an argument or come off the wrong way but I don't think it's as easy as saying it's oppressive to women.... Like, it's not a problem exclusive to women but also that doesn't mean it's not a women's rights issue but also also I think something can be bad without there being a whole overarching thing causing it, you know? I can't piece together my opinions in words but I swear I have opinions lol
youre right. its primarily a womens issue and as a woman my discussions of prostitution are framed by my own biases but patriarchy is also something that effects the lgbt and its also racist. these issues are all intrinsically linked. patriarchy (in the weast) isn't just like about opressing women its about enforcing a heteronormative hedgemony and white supremacy.
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Claire wrote:
Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
but yea alam youre making sense.

any sort of uhm how do you say it like identity intersection amplifies the danger of sex work. 
I just like
I don't want to make an argument or come off the wrong way but I don't think it's as easy as saying it's oppressive to women.... Like, it's not a problem exclusive to women but also that doesn't mean it's not a women's rights issue but also also I think something can be bad without there being a whole overarching thing causing it, you know? I can't piece together my opinions in words but I swear I have opinions lol
youre right. its primarily a womens issue and as a woman my discussions of prostitution are framed by my own biases but patriarchy is also something that effects the lgbt and its also racist. these issues are all intrinsically linked. patriarchy (in the weast) isn't just like about opressing women its about enforcing a heteronormative hedgemony and white supremacy.
masculine dominance you know
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Date: 18-09-2021 00:18
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Alam wrote:
Okay ummm I'll just say this, I don't think this is something you can be right about. It's definitely something you can be wrong about, eg complete prohibition, but you can't be right, there are always gonna be people getting the short end of the stick. All this is to say I don't think it's fair to say that anyone working towards bettering the lives of sex workers is wrong in doing so, you know what I mean? Yeah...
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Date: 18-09-2021 00:19
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ouch wrote:
Actually after reading alam write that some ppl DO want to be sex workers, I have changed my opinion. Like I think the nordic model is the best option generally (I didn't read the articles yet tho), BUT, I think sex work and buying sex in regulated settings (brothels?? Isk what its called) should be allowed, but only on the basis that it IS heavily regulated, and the ppl working there have easy access to help, panic button (idk lmfao, like if theres sex rooms, theres a button u can press n someone comes in to "save" u or sum), access to psychologists/potentionally screenings on the ppl who want to work there, so u know that they actually do want to

does that make sense, I dunno, am not sober
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Koolaid wrote:
also im on the fence abt kill all men and all men are assholes bc like even though saying that has probably no effect on men bc of their gender privilege... it's still a structural problem. like obvs men benefit from it, but women can be just as often perpetrators and ypholders of sex based oppression esp in asian/african countries where ppl are still more traditional. and FGM is carried out by women etc etc

like this white feminist trend of haha men are shit literally gets us nowhere. women are active participants often in child trafficking and are most often the ones luring in naive moms and such and stealing their kids. yeah they're all victims as women but not blameless
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