If I get a hysterectomy am I not a woman - Forum

Hmm
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hmm wrote:

Anachronism wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

slave wrote:
If youre going to have a surgery just to prove a point youre taking it too far. Its not worth it. Nobody would know if u have an uterus or not anyway. You can rather just go on and tell people you dont have an uterus without actually removing it. It would not make that much of a difference just for yourself because you know you are lying.

removing my uterus to own the libs

Getting a hysterectomy and double mastectomy to own the terfs and tradwifes

why not a single mastectomy .

Alam
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Alam wrote:

hmm wrote:

Anachronism wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
removing my uterus to own the libs

Getting a hysterectomy and double mastectomy to own the terfs and tradwifes

why not a single mastectomy .

To own the libs

Hungover
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hungover wrote:
As many people said in this thread, being a woman isn't about your genitalia or organs, it's about you. How you feel, not your personality, not your appearance, not the way you speak, but how you feel.

As an example, I don't feel like a woman, I look like one based on stereotypes and what we perceive as feminine, but I don't feel like one, therefore I'm not a woman.

Alam
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Alam wrote:

hungover wrote:
As many people said in this thread, being a woman isn't about your genitalia or organs, it's about you. How you feel, not your personality, not your appearance, not the way you speak, but how you feel.

As an example, I don't feel like a woman, I look like one based on stereotypes and what we perceive as feminine, but I don't feel like one, therefore I'm not a woman.

I'm sorry but this isn't gonna convince a terf to not be a terf

Hungover
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hungover wrote:

Alam wrote:

hungover wrote:
As many people said in this thread, being a woman isn't about your genitalia or organs, it's about you. How you feel, not your personality, not your appearance, not the way you speak, but how you feel.

As an example, I don't feel like a woman, I look like one based on stereotypes and what we perceive as feminine, but I don't feel like one, therefore I'm not a woman.

I'm sorry but this isn't gonna convince a terf to not be a terf

well aware, just curious about their response

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devilcake wrote:

hungover wrote:

Alam wrote:

hungover wrote:
As many people said in this thread, being a woman isn't about your genitalia or organs, it's about you. How you feel, not your personality, not your appearance, not the way you speak, but how you feel.

As an example, I don't feel like a woman, I look like one based on stereotypes and what we perceive as feminine, but I don't feel like one, therefore I'm not a woman.

I'm sorry but this isn't gonna convince a terf to not be a terf

well aware, just curious about their response

can people actually stop responding and discussing with them on this sort of thing for the lulz because that's what they want and it encourages them to post more and is what keeps all these discussions going

Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:

Alam wrote:

hungover wrote:
As many people said in this thread, being a woman isn't about your genitalia or organs, it's about you. How you feel, not your personality, not your appearance, not the way you speak, but how you feel.

As an example, I don't feel like a woman, I look like one based on stereotypes and what we perceive as feminine, but I don't feel like one, therefore I'm not a woman.

I'm sorry but this isn't gonna convince a terf to not be a terf

I mean vp debates are useless I should just try to publish my views on a larger platform or go out and volunteer or do actual activism

But I'm having fun

Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:

devilcake wrote:

hungover wrote:

Alam wrote:
I'm sorry but this isn't gonna convince a terf to not be a terf

well aware, just curious about their response

can people actually stop responding and discussing with them on this sort of thing for the lulz because that's what they want and it encourages them to post more and is what keeps all these discussions going

You know thsts good point I never considered

I still intend to reply to the terf on the first page of this thread

But thsrs something to chew on

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devilcake wrote:
i dont get the whole oh im debating because its fun thing like i dont think its fun to log on to vp several days in a row and see a bunch of hateful shit actually. It's the same kind of mentality twitter edgelords have :/ online debate accomplishes next to nothing

Hungover
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hungover wrote:

devilcake wrote:

hungover wrote:

Alam wrote:
I'm sorry but this isn't gonna convince a terf to not be a terf

well aware, just curious about their response

can people actually stop responding and discussing with them on this sort of thing for the lulz because that's what they want and it encourages them to post more and is what keeps all these discussions going

I'm not doing it for the lulz, I'm genuinely curious about their beliefs.

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devilcake wrote:

Anachronism wrote:

devilcake wrote:

hungover wrote:
well aware, just curious about their response

can people actually stop responding and discussing with them on this sort of thing for the lulz because that's what they want and it encourages them to post more and is what keeps all these discussions going

You know thsts good point I never discovered

I still intend to reply to the terf on the first page of this thread

But thsrs something to chew on

yeah its like idk the thread from yesterday was about to die until people started to argue in it, if we just let threads like those die, and no offence this one too, we dont have to deal with them

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Limbs wrote:

devilcake wrote:
i dont get the whole oh im debating because its fun thing like i dont think its fun to log on to vp several days in a row and see a bunch of hateful shit actually. It's the same kind of mentality twitter edgelords have :/ online debate accomplishes next to nothing

saaaame

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Limbs wrote:

Anachronism wrote:

Barbarella wrote:
Have you had a consultation yet for this? Is there a medical issue or do you just want to be sterilized?

Omg people think I'm serious

bruh..... why do this

Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:

spynation wrote:

Anachronism wrote:

spynation wrote:
once a female always a female and that is the same thing as a girl or woman . and vice versa

Then why is it offensive to say uterus haver

Cuz not all women have uteruses, like this is even true of cis women

I actually think reducing women to mean "people with uteruses" is what's genuinely problematic... its stereotyping and putting women in a strict gender role

Like I'm more than my uterus as a woman and I could have no uterus and still legitimately be a woman, so I actually consider it sexist and objectifying for the term"woman" to be essentialist and reductive

yeah i agree n if ive read this correctly we're on the same page

because of precisely that , a female is a female even if all her organs got magically removed n not acknolwedging the sex of a person for any reason esp people who sytemically and historically have undergone oppression based on their sex is a hella transparent attempt to kick females (women) out of a movement they made for themselves based on the oppression they face as females (women) . u are more than your uterus which is the entire point im driving here lol . ppl who say "uterus owner" and anything adjacent have been bamboozled into thinking woman is a slur or politically incorrect yet most of those ppl want to be seen as one its not adding up ... and despite all this talk about "people with uteruses" ive noticed everyone w that phrase in their mouth doesnt know anything about uteruses much like everyone with "bleeder/menstruator" in their mouth. the lies ive witnessed being spread abt how periods and pregnancy work by ppl of the male species which entails ZERO uteruses or wombs is on another level

We arent on the same page

Using woman to mean biological female exclusively (and even 'female' isnt cut and dry either, because sex isnt binary) is what reduces women to their biological parts. 'Uterus haver' includes everyone, including the rare population of men who have one. Implying all woman have periods or a uterus or ovaries is weird and not even accurate.

Defining people based on their oppression isnt going to free them from it. That makes no sense.

Also a person's biological sex isnt relevant in every context, especially outside of a sexual or medical one or when were discussing prepubescent children. To be insistent on defining everyone based on their sex is objectification.

I like how you imply it's basically men and trans woman who advocate for gender neutral language. I agree that people without uteruses and ovaries shouldnt act like they know what its like to have those parts, but I dont agree this is a man vs woman thing. As I pointed out, even men can be born with uteruses and ovaries if they have a medical condition. Also even many women have misconceptions about their own bodies (like the purpose of the hymen and the cleanliness of their vaginas). Non biased education of reproductive organs is something that should be more funded and widespread

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ouch wrote:
I don't care abt having my uterus or not but I don't wanna get hormone therapy n whatever so it will stay in my body