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Claire wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Claire wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Don't care what your political alignment is, if you take pleasure in making people suffer and I mean really suffer, you are a bad person. 
x
what are you trying to tell me Claire 
it is an example of a person taking pleasure in making people ssuffer lmao. she's what youre talkin about.

that's democratic senator sinema voting no on raising the federal minimum wage
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:12
AntipodeanOpaleye
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AntipodeanOpaleye wrote:
mankind wrote:
AntipodeanOpaleye wrote:
mankind wrote:
idk tbh like maybe that's a translation error. English is not my first language.

But the peopel with "low functioning" autism that i know are definitely not capable of advocating anything.
English isn’t my first language either.
I believe I’ve read online (and someone in this thread also affirmed) that using functioning labels isn’t appropriate. I’m sure they every one has their ways of advocating.
if you are unaware of the world around you then you don't really have a way of advocating
But there are definitely people advocating on their behalf, no?
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:12
Lean
Streetmusician



lean wrote:
my best friend would steal money from her mother and steal pot from her friends and smoked so much she went into psychosis and then when she came out of psychosis the dr said don't smoke anymore or you could have a psychotic episode again and she said f u and smoked more then went into psychosis again
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:13
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Barbarella wrote:
Claire wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Claire wrote:
x
what are you trying to tell me Claire 
it is an example of a person taking pleasure in making people ssuffer lmao. she's what youre talkin about.

that's democratic senator sinema voting no on raising the federal minimum wage
there are solutions
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:13
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World Famous



Claire wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Claire wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
truth.
that being said a lot of folks are simply not prone to addiction which is possibly where the "pot isn't addictive" theory comes from? idk
i think a lot of it is pro pot propaganda like people wanna say its harmless to get it legal and it just is not harmless lmao

its mostly harmless but mostly is not entirely
I'm definitely for legalizing it because alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are way more likely to cause dependency and are legal all for the $$$$$$
then again
I'm for the decriminalization of all drugs
i just want consistency. legalize weed or outlaw booze. lets be consistent.
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wrote:
Claire wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Claire wrote:
x
what are you trying to tell me Claire 
it is an example of a person taking pleasure in making people ssuffer lmao. she's what youre talkin about.

that's democratic senator sinema voting no on raising the federal minimum wage
Y'alls political system is broken so badly 
Date: 08-03-2021 00:13
Mankind
Streetmusician



mankind wrote:
AntipodeanOpaleye wrote:
mankind wrote:
AntipodeanOpaleye wrote:
English isn’t my first language either.
I believe I’ve read online (and someone in this thread also affirmed) that using functioning labels isn’t appropriate. I’m sure they every one has their ways of advocating.
if you are unaware of the world around you then you don't really have a way of advocating
But there are definitely people advocating on their behalf, no?
about labels like 'low functioning'? 

not that i'm aware of but like i said it might be a translation issue
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:13
Private
International Star



uhyre wrote:
mankind wrote:
AntipodeanOpaleye wrote:
mankind wrote:
may i ask how many of the autistic ppl you've met are low functioning?
Isn’t low/high functioning horrible terms that people with autism have been advocating against using? 
idk tbh like maybe that's a translation error. English is not my first language.

But the peopel with "low functioning" autism that i know are definitely not capable of advocating anything.
then u listen to the autistic ppl capable of advocating something instead of the non autistic ppl who just like to have opinions
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:13
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Claire wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Claire wrote:
disintegration wrote:
what are you trying to tell me Claire 
it is an example of a person taking pleasure in making people ssuffer lmao. she's what youre talkin about.

that's democratic senator sinema voting no on raising the federal minimum wage
there are solutions
and then after she did her cutesy little uwu kawaii no vote she served cake to her staffers like girl this is the solution for real lmao
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:14
Private
Streetmusician



commander2 wrote:
i just assume every1 is straight tbh
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:14
Heist
National Star



heist wrote:
disintegration wrote:
heist wrote:
disintegration wrote:
nonbinary people need those resources too and not every binary trans person has the same experience either, yeah, neo pronoun discussions are stupid for the most part, but it seems weird to leave out nonbinary people of trans discussions, because things like health care, legal stuff,... concerns us too. 
i'm not saying leave nonbinary people out of the discussion i'm saying they're separate discussions, you can be trans but not nonbinary, you can be nonbinary and not trans or whatever but like hmmm

i think the conflation of the two groups gives people who essentially have no difference to their cis counterparts other than using nonstandard pronouns give to claim identity points and it sort of cheapens the discussion

Maybe my issue isn't so much actually the two groups being under the same umbrella I just think the needs of nonbinary/trans individuals who sort of actually live outside of the cis experience in meaningful, concrete ways should be prioritized 

(Am i truscum??? What does that even mean??)
But why should they be a separate discussion if they need the same things/if the needs overlap? 

What are meaningful, concrete ways? What does prioritizing mean in this context? Transphobes don't care if you are binary trans or nonbinary, who do you cater to with this separation, do you see concrete things that will change for the better if you split binary and non binary trans people in 2 smaller groups 
? What effect would it have on eg legislation that would protect trans people? 
i don't really have a well formed argument on this because like, these are sort of questions i ask myself and often don't know the answers to

i think yes there's overlap but maybe the distinction I'm making is probably poisoned by my experience at a liberal arts college where a lot of people literally just like, put they/them in their instagram bio and would be like "ok we are the same you and i" and would come to trans/nb spaces and like literally talk over us or derail discussions

like when i'm saying "meaningful separation" i mean like, coming out to your parents/family, changing how you present yourself, maybe transitioning medically

talking it out i don't think the distinction i'm making is between trans and nonbinary but between lived experiences and ugh i hate using this term "trenders", who often co opt the nonbinary label i guess, and at what point does the umbrella lose its meaning when it encompasses such wide variety of experience?

but also maybe i'm just blaire white-ing / kalvin garrah-ing 
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Claire wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Claire wrote:
disintegration wrote:
what are you trying to tell me Claire 
it is an example of a person taking pleasure in making people ssuffer lmao. she's what youre talkin about.

that's democratic senator sinema voting no on raising the federal minimum wage
Y'alls political system is broken so badly 
for real lmao
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:14
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Barbarella wrote:
Claire wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Claire wrote:
i think a lot of it is pro pot propaganda like people wanna say its harmless to get it legal and it just is not harmless lmao

its mostly harmless but mostly is not entirely
I'm definitely for legalizing it because alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are way more likely to cause dependency and are legal all for the $$$$$$
then again
I'm for the decriminalization of all drugs
i just want consistency. legalize weed or outlaw booze. lets be consistent.
Alcohol laws in the US are anything but consistent lol

when I moved where I am now, you couldn't buy alcohol in this town 
then, you could only buy alcohol in taverns, (a bar/hotel combo, of which there was only ONE)
then, you could only buy it in historic landmarks
now you can get it in restaurants, but only with a meal, unless that restaurant is in a historic landmark

and shit like this is ALL OVER THE SOUTH
its insane and confusing and it makes working as a server in a tourist town even more of a nightmare lol
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:14
Mankind
Streetmusician



mankind wrote:
lamb wrote:
mankind wrote:
AntipodeanOpaleye wrote:
Isn’t low/high functioning horrible terms that people with autism have been advocating against using? 
idk tbh like maybe that's a translation error. English is not my first language.

But the peopel with "low functioning" autism that i know are definitely not capable of advocating anything.
then u listen to the autistic ppl capable of advocating something instead of the non autistic ppl who just like to have opinions
Chill

Like I said english is not my first language. Idk the politically correct term for 'low functioning' pls enlighten me
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Date: 08-03-2021 00:15
Heist
National Star



heist wrote:
heist wrote:
disintegration wrote:
heist wrote:
i'm not saying leave nonbinary people out of the discussion i'm saying they're separate discussions, you can be trans but not nonbinary, you can be nonbinary and not trans or whatever but like hmmm

i think the conflation of the two groups gives people who essentially have no difference to their cis counterparts other than using nonstandard pronouns give to claim identity points and it sort of cheapens the discussion

Maybe my issue isn't so much actually the two groups being under the same umbrella I just think the needs of nonbinary/trans individuals who sort of actually live outside of the cis experience in meaningful, concrete ways should be prioritized 

(Am i truscum??? What does that even mean??)
But why should they be a separate discussion if they need the same things/if the needs overlap? 

What are meaningful, concrete ways? What does prioritizing mean in this context? Transphobes don't care if you are binary trans or nonbinary, who do you cater to with this separation, do you see concrete things that will change for the better if you split binary and non binary trans people in 2 smaller groups 
? What effect would it have on eg legislation that would protect trans people? 
i don't really have a well formed argument on this because like, these are sort of questions i ask myself and often don't know the answers to

i think yes there's overlap but maybe the distinction I'm making is probably poisoned by my experience at a liberal arts college where a lot of people literally just like, put they/them in their instagram bio and would be like "ok we are the same you and i" and would come to trans/nb spaces and like literally talk over us or derail discussions

like when i'm saying "meaningful separation" i mean like, coming out to your parents/family, changing how you present yourself, maybe transitioning medically

talking it out i don't think the distinction i'm making is between trans and nonbinary but between lived experiences and ugh i hate using this term "trenders", who often co opt the nonbinary label i guess, and at what point does the umbrella lose its meaning when it encompasses such wide variety of experience?

but also maybe i'm just blaire white-ing / kalvin garrah-ing 
lmao sorry this response took hella long cus i was kind of like. you know what disintegration u kinda right and i am just bitter and taking it out on nonbinary people
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