interesting observations on ADHD meds - Forum

Parasite
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Parasite wrote:

ouch wrote:
Idk amphetamines for adhd is a hit or miss I think, some react less (don't get "high" on normal doses) while others react just the same as normal ppl. I think I would just feel like shit tho if I went on adhd meds cus I feel so bad the day after but I think I take way too much like 1-1,5 grams a day and assuming a purity of 30% iss gonna b 300-450mgs a day which sounds like mby just my brain broken lol

1 gram - 1k miligrams
also 300-450mg a day is a shit ton for adhd meds. Most ppl are on like 20-30mg maybe even 40.

Noir
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Noir wrote:

ouch wrote:
Idk amphetamines for adhd is a hit or miss I think, some react less (don't get "high" on normal doses) while others react just the same as normal ppl. I think I would just feel like shit tho if I went on adhd meds cus I feel so bad the day after but I think I take way too much like 1-1,5 grams a day and assuming a purity of 30% iss gonna b 300-450mgs a day which sounds like mby just my brain broken lol

are you prescripted? If you feel like is too much ( i do feel is a lot but if it works then is good) you should tell you doctor.

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Barbarella wrote:

Conqueror wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

Focalin wrote:
Yeah, I did a whole research paper on it for med term back in hs. #1 it's highly addictive. That dependence neurotypicals get will lead to them needing a higher dose each time. Eventually NTs can experience psychosis from it.

I read someone describe ADHD brain as a bucket with a hole in the bottom where all the dopamine leaks out, and the meds are just a piece of tape haha
I was like "yes this makes sense"

how would you describe the feeling of lacking dopamine and the consequences this has on your life - if that's not too personal to answer? i feel i struggle explaining this

My worst symptom has been impulse control, like, I can't really hold a job, I can't think before I speak, I say things that are personal and folks will use them against me, because I can't control it.

Then the executive dysfunction, which is not currently being helped at this dose of medication, but I will just sit here, all day, and accomplish nothing. I literally CANT seem to do things, even if I want to do them, even things I love to do. It's often misdiagnosed as depression, but I'm literally not depressed, I just cant do things.

I have no concept of time, which for me, before meds, rather than making me late all the time, I'd be early, like SUPER early, like half an hour early to everything because I couldn't grasp how long things took. I also would end up paying my bills TWICE because I'd forget I paid them.

I cannot focus, I can't even read a book, I can't even listen to an audiobook, or watch a movie, or show, once in a while I'll be able to, if I'm also doing something with my hands, but this has gotten progressively worse and worse and worse as I've gotten older.

I have serious emotional dysregulation and rejection sensitivity issues, which has always just been written off as me being neurotic. I become overstimulated, I lose my temper, I impulsively quit jobs, it effects every aspect of my life.

I also struggle with like, a concept of danger, and unsafe behaviors.

A lot of this could overlap with autism though and my therapist wants me screened for that, too.

Noir
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Noir wrote:

Focalin wrote:

ouch wrote:
Idk amphetamines for adhd is a hit or miss I think, some react less (don't get "high" on normal doses) while others react just the same as normal ppl. I think I would just feel like shit tho if I went on adhd meds cus I feel so bad the day after but I think I take way too much like 1-1,5 grams a day and assuming a purity of 30% iss gonna b 300-450mgs a day which sounds like mby just my brain broken lol

1 gram - 1k miligrams
also 300-450mg a day is a shit ton for adhd meds. Most ppl are on like 20-30mg maybe even 40.

exactly what I was thinking. If you need to take that much, maybe they are not the right meds

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Barbarella wrote:

animeislive wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

animeislive wrote:
It is normal is you are taking meds, dont worry. You are probably going to have fatigue more often if you do sports, or at least that happens to me because of blood preassure.

I'm also like, I don't wanna say "disabled" necessarily, but technically I guess I am, and I can't at this moment get the kind of physical activity I need to manage the heart and blood pressure aspects of the new meds
at least not until I get my pain under control

I mean I dont know your particular case, but dont think you could name it as "disabled", you'll get used to it, dont worry. I just hope it helps you and hopefully you wont need to take them the rest of your life, or a very long time.

I mean I have literal physical problems that show up on MRI that could be classified as a disability if my doctors agreed to sign the paper.

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ouch wrote:

Focalin wrote:

ouch wrote:
Idk amphetamines for adhd is a hit or miss I think, some react less (don't get "high" on normal doses) while others react just the same as normal ppl. I think I would just feel like shit tho if I went on adhd meds cus I feel so bad the day after but I think I take way too much like 1-1,5 grams a day and assuming a purity of 30% iss gonna b 300-450mgs a day which sounds like mby just my brain broken lol

1 gram - 1k miligrams
also 300-450mg a day is a shit ton for adhd meds. Most ppl are on like 20-30mg maybe even 40.

Yes, so 30% of 1 gram is 300mg

Yes im not on adhd meds lol I don't think I have adhd

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Barbarella wrote:

ouch wrote:
Idk amphetamines for adhd is a hit or miss I think, some react less (don't get "high" on normal doses) while others react just the same as normal ppl. I think I would just feel like shit tho if I went on adhd meds cus I feel so bad the day after but I think I take way too much like 1-1,5 grams a day and assuming a purity of 30% iss gonna b 300-450mgs a day which sounds like mby just my brain broken lol

There are a few non-stimulant ADHD meds, but the one most often used is an SNRI and I had this really fun side effect when I was on SNRIs of falling asleep at the wheel of my car lol
so we don't do those anymore

Solar
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Solar wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

Conqueror wrote:

Barbarella wrote:
I read someone describe ADHD brain as a bucket with a hole in the bottom where all the dopamine leaks out, and the meds are just a piece of tape haha
I was like "yes this makes sense"

how would you describe the feeling of lacking dopamine and the consequences this has on your life - if that's not too personal to answer? i feel i struggle explaining this

My worst symptom has been impulse control, like, I can't really hold a job, I can't think before I speak, I say things that are personal and folks will use them against me, because I can't control it.

Then the executive dysfunction, which is not currently being helped at this dose of medication, but I will just sit here, all day, and accomplish nothing. I literally CANT seem to do things, even if I want to do them, even things I love to do. It's often misdiagnosed as depression, but I'm literally not depressed, I just cant do things.

I have no concept of time, which for me, before meds, rather than making me late all the time, I'd be early, like SUPER early, like half an hour early to everything because I couldn't grasp how long things took. I also would end up paying my bills TWICE because I'd forget I paid them.

I cannot focus, I can't even read a book, I can't even listen to an audiobook, or watch a movie, or show, once in a while I'll be able to, if I'm also doing something with my hands, but this has gotten progressively worse and worse and worse as I've gotten older.

I have serious emotional dysregulation and rejection sensitivity issues, which has always just been written off as me being neurotic. I become overstimulated, I lose my temper, I impulsively quit jobs, it effects every aspect of my life.

I also struggle with like, a concept of danger, and unsafe behaviors.

A lot of this could overlap with autism though and my therapist wants me screened for that, too.

thank you !! the executive dysfunction is very relatable, as is the emotional dysregulation, and impulse control with for me oversharing or drinking too much or smoking
this was actually very helpful to me bc my adhd was very explained to me on a very shallow lvl so i sometimes have trouble understanding it

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ouch wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

ouch wrote:
Idk amphetamines for adhd is a hit or miss I think, some react less (don't get "high" on normal doses) while others react just the same as normal ppl. I think I would just feel like shit tho if I went on adhd meds cus I feel so bad the day after but I think I take way too much like 1-1,5 grams a day and assuming a purity of 30% iss gonna b 300-450mgs a day which sounds like mby just my brain broken lol

There are a few non-stimulant ADHD meds, but the one most often used is an SNRI and I had this really fun side effect when I was on SNRIs of falling asleep at the wheel of my car lol
so we don't do those anymore

Ouff, my friend was on depression meds w amphetamine like substance (idk the name for those lol) n she didn't get more awake but now that she quit them shes more tired lol, love it

Parasite
Princess of Pop

Parasite wrote:

ouch wrote:

Focalin wrote:

ouch wrote:
Idk amphetamines for adhd is a hit or miss I think, some react less (don't get "high" on normal doses) while others react just the same as normal ppl. I think I would just feel like shit tho if I went on adhd meds cus I feel so bad the day after but I think I take way too much like 1-1,5 grams a day and assuming a purity of 30% iss gonna b 300-450mgs a day which sounds like mby just my brain broken lol

1 gram - 1k miligrams
also 300-450mg a day is a shit ton for adhd meds. Most ppl are on like 20-30mg maybe even 40.

Yes, so 30% of 1 gram is 300mg

Yes im not on adhd meds lol I don't think I have adhd

I was adding the 1g-1kmg think for reference and forgot to add the 30% detail oops.
And the rest of it still has me a bit confused. Was this all an "if" scenario or were you prescribed them once?

Noir
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Noir wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

animeislive wrote:

Barbarella wrote:
I'm also like, I don't wanna say "disabled" necessarily, but technically I guess I am, and I can't at this moment get the kind of physical activity I need to manage the heart and blood pressure aspects of the new meds
at least not until I get my pain under control

I mean I dont know your particular case, but dont think you could name it as "disabled", you'll get used to it, dont worry. I just hope it helps you and hopefully you wont need to take them the rest of your life, or a very long time.

I mean I have literal physical problems that show up on MRI that could be classified as a disability if my doctors agreed to sign the paper.

Woops sorry to hear that. Would you have some financial assistance if you get classified as disable?

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Barbarella wrote:

Conqueror wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

Conqueror wrote:
how would you describe the feeling of lacking dopamine and the consequences this has on your life - if that's not too personal to answer? i feel i struggle explaining this

My worst symptom has been impulse control, like, I can't really hold a job, I can't think before I speak, I say things that are personal and folks will use them against me, because I can't control it.

Then the executive dysfunction, which is not currently being helped at this dose of medication, but I will just sit here, all day, and accomplish nothing. I literally CANT seem to do things, even if I want to do them, even things I love to do. It's often misdiagnosed as depression, but I'm literally not depressed, I just cant do things.

I have no concept of time, which for me, before meds, rather than making me late all the time, I'd be early, like SUPER early, like half an hour early to everything because I couldn't grasp how long things took. I also would end up paying my bills TWICE because I'd forget I paid them.

I cannot focus, I can't even read a book, I can't even listen to an audiobook, or watch a movie, or show, once in a while I'll be able to, if I'm also doing something with my hands, but this has gotten progressively worse and worse and worse as I've gotten older.

I have serious emotional dysregulation and rejection sensitivity issues, which has always just been written off as me being neurotic. I become overstimulated, I lose my temper, I impulsively quit jobs, it effects every aspect of my life.

I also struggle with like, a concept of danger, and unsafe behaviors.

A lot of this could overlap with autism though and my therapist wants me screened for that, too.

thank you !! the executive dysfunction is very relatable, as is the emotional dysregulation, and impulse control with for me oversharing or drinking too much or smoking
this was actually very helpful to me bc my adhd was very explained to me on a very shallow lvl so i sometimes have trouble understanding it

I mean, they're just starting to understand how ADHD looks differently in girls, and now, there's like a whole new set of weird symptoms in adult women who went undiagnosed and have developed weird coping mechanisms and comorbid mental illnesses due to not being treated early enough.
Lots of doctors have not received this newer training/education yet.
I like to think they're all doing their best though, even when they're just wrong. You always have the choice to find new doctors if you don't feel seen or understood.

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Barbarella wrote:

animeislive wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

animeislive wrote:
I mean I dont know your particular case, but dont think you could name it as "disabled", you'll get used to it, dont worry. I just hope it helps you and hopefully you wont need to take them the rest of your life, or a very long time.

I mean I have literal physical problems that show up on MRI that could be classified as a disability if my doctors agreed to sign the paper.

Woops sorry to hear that. Would you have some financial assistance if you get classified as disable?

I might. I currently have too much in savings to qualify for SSI assistance, but I can apply again if that ever changes.

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ouch wrote:

Focalin wrote:

ouch wrote:

Focalin wrote:
1 gram - 1k miligrams
also 300-450mg a day is a shit ton for adhd meds. Most ppl are on like 20-30mg maybe even 40.

Yes, so 30% of 1 gram is 300mg

Yes im not on adhd meds lol I don't think I have adhd

I was adding the 1g-1kmg think for reference and forgot to add the 30% detail oops.
And the rest of it still has me a bit confused. Was this all an "if" scenario or were you prescribed them once?

No I mean I just feel like shit after I take amphetamines so if I did get them for issues ( idk executive dysfunction, dunno if it helps for that even but) I would feel like shot but also mby the shot feeling just cus I take so much lol. Don't think my tolerance will ever b normal again tho, brain fr broken forever in the dopamine and serotonin department, wouldn't work. Sad life indeed

Noir
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Noir wrote:

Barbarella wrote:

animeislive wrote:

Barbarella wrote:
I mean I have literal physical problems that show up on MRI that could be classified as a disability if my doctors agreed to sign the paper.

Woops sorry to hear that. Would you have some financial assistance if you get classified as disable?

I might. I currently have too much in savings to qualify for SSI assistance, but I can apply again if that ever changes.

Well is good you do have financial help