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MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:
i havent so far like honestly im going nuts, my skin was already extremely dry (in general but also +eczema) and my skin never recovered properly from going on accutane in my teens and i can somewhat keep it in check during summer by exfoliating, moisturizing and oiling, but if i miss even one day (or, one morning/evening round) it sets me back so much. like i will be smooth in the morning and flaking off at the end of the day. if my skin gets wet with water and air dries, its just a spot of dry skin within half an hour

ive been doing so much reading into skincare lately and trying to figure out how to deal with it but its slow progress, and i think sooner or later i may just have to take a new trip to a dermatologist to see what the hell is up. but its expensive

okay, honestly, if you have a medical confition like eczema, your best bet is to go see a dermatologist instead of trying out random stuff, which could potentially just make it worse and worse
you won't really win anything by trying out stuff at random, because that'll just be pointless expenses too

I'd recommend to maybe try something from the pharmacy, since there are a bunch of brands that specialise on special care skin, but even then it's quite often hit or miss if you manage to find a brand that helps. plus you're still looking at 2-3 weeks of testing to see if there is any change in it
(I personally have had great experience with la roche posay, my mum has had great experiences with a swiss brand that I can't remember - though they make mostly things for mature skin. but that's not necessarily something you can go off from)

i dont even have eczema on my face (at least noticeably) but it just reaches the same level of dryness thats impossible to deal with
im not trying out things at random tho, just to be clear, i am looking into everything i do thoroughly. but its so much i wish i didnt have skin. i prfer the eczema bc treating that is straight forward n familiar

i did use a lot of la roche posay while on accutane and it seemed to work well but its so goddamn expensive its not feasible to keep up with. my biggest skincare expense is like, cliniderm sunscreen which is so much but its the only one ive found so far that doesnt trigger my (body) eczema

aveeno is a good replacement because its affordable and as effective

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uhyre wrote:

Sobbing wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:
the issue you need to combat then is mostly dehydration
just removing the shedded skin won't really fix the issue of shedding and I don't think using too much and too harsh stuff would be advisable. the oil is a good choice, but you can't really prevent your skin from having minor flakes every now and then, skin isn't supposed to be completely plastic smooth
if you find something that helps hydrating your skin, you should start seeing a difference in the shedding in the weeks to come

i havent so far like honestly im going nuts, my skin was already extremely dry (in general but also +eczema) and my skin never recovered properly from going on accutane in my teens and i can somewhat keep it in check during summer by exfoliating, moisturizing and oiling, but if i miss even one day (or, one morning/evening round) it sets me back so much. like i will be smooth in the morning and flaking off at the end of the day. if my skin gets wet with water and air dries, its just a spot of dry skin within half an hour

ive been doing so much reading into skincare lately and trying to figure out how to deal with it but its slow progress, and i think sooner or later i may just have to take a new trip to a dermatologist to see what the hell is up. but its expensive

ur skin sounds dehydrated, you should focus on repairing your moisture barrier which means that you should be trapping moisture into your skin, skip exfoliating for now, thats just making the issue worse

idk how to do that
the skin still builds up on my face if i do that and it needs to come off or i break out

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MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

Sobbing wrote:

uhyre wrote:
i havent so far like honestly im going nuts, my skin was already extremely dry (in general but also +eczema) and my skin never recovered properly from going on accutane in my teens and i can somewhat keep it in check during summer by exfoliating, moisturizing and oiling, but if i miss even one day (or, one morning/evening round) it sets me back so much. like i will be smooth in the morning and flaking off at the end of the day. if my skin gets wet with water and air dries, its just a spot of dry skin within half an hour

ive been doing so much reading into skincare lately and trying to figure out how to deal with it but its slow progress, and i think sooner or later i may just have to take a new trip to a dermatologist to see what the hell is up. but its expensive

ur skin sounds dehydrated, you should focus on repairing your moisture barrier which means that you should be trapping moisture into your skin, skip exfoliating for now, thats just making the issue worse

idk how to do that
the skin still builds up on my face if i do that and it needs to come off or i break out

that's what I keep saying with it will take weeks until you see a change
just removing the flaky skin will not heal the issue

and unfortunately reading up on things doesn't really help in figuring out what truly helps
if you have eczema, your skin barrier will be compromised on your face as well and you're more prone to this issue all over your body
you need to give your body time
exfoliating the whole time will just make your skin shed more because it tries to build up a barrier

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uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

Sobbing wrote:
ur skin sounds dehydrated, you should focus on repairing your moisture barrier which means that you should be trapping moisture into your skin, skip exfoliating for now, thats just making the issue worse

idk how to do that
the skin still builds up on my face if i do that and it needs to come off or i break out

that's what I keep saying with it will take weeks until you see a change
just removing the flaky skin will not heal the issue

and unfortunately reading up on things doesn't really help in figuring out what truly helps
if you have eczema, your skin barrier will be compromised on your face as well and you're more prone to this issue all over your body
you need to give your body time
exfoliating the whole time will just make your skin shed more because it tries to build up a barrier

i amnt just removing the skin im doing everything else too
but weeks isnt enough like ive been trying with this stuff for years and it never goes anywhere and its just. frustrating. which is why i think i need to see a derm again but i cant so its just. frustration all around

like i need to cleanse or i break out
i need to moisturize (serums, moisturizer, oil) or i break like a cracker
i need to exfoliate or i break out. moisturizing just makes the skin i shed be goop instead of flakes. which looks nicer but still breaks me out like hell and feels gross if i dont remove it
if i do too little, my skin breaks out and riots and dries up
if i do too much my skin breaks out and riot and becomes so sensitive and agitated
and what is too much and what is to little seems to vary from day to day
no winning
i wish to be peeled like a grape

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which is why i switched over to seeing if just prolonged use of salicylic acid would help keeping the skinarmy off and also not agitate my skin. bc i dont wanna run around scrubbing my face all the time it doesnt feel good

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uhyre wrote:
now im looking at local v\clinic sites and they take 400 dollars to remove moles, wtf

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uhyre wrote:
125 bucks for tattoo removal. per session i presume. is that a lot or not (their lowest price aka for small tattoos)

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MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:
idk how to do that
the skin still builds up on my face if i do that and it needs to come off or i break out

that's what I keep saying with it will take weeks until you see a change
just removing the flaky skin will not heal the issue

and unfortunately reading up on things doesn't really help in figuring out what truly helps
if you have eczema, your skin barrier will be compromised on your face as well and you're more prone to this issue all over your body
you need to give your body time
exfoliating the whole time will just make your skin shed more because it tries to build up a barrier

i amnt just removing the skin im doing everything else too
but weeks isnt enough like ive been trying with this stuff for years and it never goes anywhere and its just. frustrating. which is why i think i need to see a derm again but i cant so its just. frustration all around

like i need to cleanse or i break out
i need to moisturize (serums, moisturizer, oil) or i break like a cracker
i need to exfoliate or i break out. moisturizing just makes the skin i shed be goop instead of flakes. which looks nicer but still breaks me out like hell and feels gross if i dont remove it
if i do too little, my skin breaks out and riots and dries up
if i do too much my skin breaks out and riot and becomes so sensitive and agitated
and what is too much and what is to little seems to vary from day to day
no winning
i wish to be peeled like a grape

yeah I know
that still leaves your skin vulnerable
there is a reason flaky skin stays on your skin for a couple of days before falling off

I think the main problem is that if you have such a serious issue like the very very flaky skin, you can't look at it and be like "but I have to do 10 other things or I will break out"
the breakouts are pretty normal with a damaged skin barrier as well, so fixing that might already fix a few of the breakout issues
doing too much at the same time when you have compromised skin makes it so much worse, which is why you have to just power through a month of doing the bare minimum to repair the skin barrier and then once that is fixed can start takling the other remaining issues

I get you, it sucks and it's terrible, but sometimes what you think is the root of the problem isn't it, because you have something that hides the actual root of the problem
it's like what I had with my rosacea. I was convinced I had severe acne. I only started doing something against my rosacea because my face started to literally hurt the whole time just existing. and as soon as I managed to fix my skin (which took well over a month with specialised care) my skin got clear, nearly no pimples and inflammation anymore. Then I stopped because my products were empty and I wanted to empty the other ones and I'm back to looking like a pimply mess and my skin is flushed and hurts.

if your skin has a problem with the moisture barrier, you need to rebuild that with something that's suitable for your skin condition. yes, you need to remove the dead skin if it's so much the creams can't absorb, but you really shouldn't remove it all every day. the pimples will quite possible become less once your skin isn't so inflamed because of the broken barrier anymore. but using too many things against potential breakouts risks just making the barrier worse and thus break you out even more
it sounds illogical, but it's a common mistake

(also don't overuse salicylic acid or you will end up breaking out again)

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uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:
that's what I keep saying with it will take weeks until you see a change
just removing the flaky skin will not heal the issue

and unfortunately reading up on things doesn't really help in figuring out what truly helps
if you have eczema, your skin barrier will be compromised on your face as well and you're more prone to this issue all over your body
you need to give your body time
exfoliating the whole time will just make your skin shed more because it tries to build up a barrier

i amnt just removing the skin im doing everything else too
but weeks isnt enough like ive been trying with this stuff for years and it never goes anywhere and its just. frustrating. which is why i think i need to see a derm again but i cant so its just. frustration all around

like i need to cleanse or i break out
i need to moisturize (serums, moisturizer, oil) or i break like a cracker
i need to exfoliate or i break out. moisturizing just makes the skin i shed be goop instead of flakes. which looks nicer but still breaks me out like hell and feels gross if i dont remove it
if i do too little, my skin breaks out and riots and dries up
if i do too much my skin breaks out and riot and becomes so sensitive and agitated
and what is too much and what is to little seems to vary from day to day
no winning
i wish to be peeled like a grape

yeah I know
that still leaves your skin vulnerable
there is a reason flaky skin stays on your skin for a couple of days before falling off

I think the main problem is that if you have such a serious issue like the very very flaky skin, you can't look at it and be like "but I have to do 10 other things or I will break out"
the breakouts are pretty normal with a damaged skin barrier as well, so fixing that might already fix a few of the breakout issues
doing too much at the same time when you have compromised skin makes it so much worse, which is why you have to just power through a month of doing the bare minimum to repair the skin barrier and then once that is fixed can start takling the other remaining issues

I get you, it sucks and it's terrible, but sometimes what you think is the root of the problem isn't it, because you have something that hides the actual root of the problem
it's like what I had with my rosacea. I was convinced I had severe acne. I only started doing something against my rosacea because my face started to literally hurt the whole time just existing. and as soon as I managed to fix my skin (which took well over a month with specialised care) my skin got clear, nearly no pimples and inflammation anymore. Then I stopped because my products were empty and I wanted to empty the other ones and I'm back to looking like a pimply mess and my skin is flushed and hurts.

if your skin has a problem with the moisture barrier, you need to rebuild that with something that's suitable for your skin condition. yes, you need to remove the dead skin if it's so much the creams can't absorb, but you really shouldn't remove it all every day. the pimples will quite possible become less once your skin isn't so inflamed because of the broken barrier anymore. but using too many things against potential breakouts risks just making the barrier worse and thus break you out even more
it sounds illogical, but it's a common mistake

(also don't overuse salicylic acid or you will end up breaking out again)

the thing is that doing the bare monimum for a while doesnt fix anything at all, ive done this several times before. like i tolerated 6 months of accutane on the worse end of side effects the whole time, so a month or several of consistent use of whichever products that makes my skin better despite feeling like crap is nothing, i can do that no issue. but it doesnt actually change anything ?? the flaking doesnt stop, the sensitivity doesnt get better. like the skin looks a bit better but not bc the current issues stop happening, they just happen to nicer looking skin

i also do not exfoliate every day id die, i havent established a number of times before i even reach sensitivity level with the salicylic acid yet

like i

(remove makeup)
cleanser (hydrating, allegedly, but ive never met a cleanser that actually held true for)
aloe toner sometimes
salicylic acid andor alpha arbutin, im still experimenting with those two
moisturizer

oil or sunscreen depends on whats applicable at the time. morning, night

i tried the azelaic acid suspension from the ordinary but its making my skin more sensitive at this time so ill try it better later, to see if its the product or my skin being weird

like i rly dont think this is whats killing my face

i tried hylauronic acid before but i didnt notice mych so stopped, but im a bit more familiar with how it works now and will probably grab a new one to try later

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MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:
i amnt just removing the skin im doing everything else too
but weeks isnt enough like ive been trying with this stuff for years and it never goes anywhere and its just. frustrating. which is why i think i need to see a derm again but i cant so its just. frustration all around

like i need to cleanse or i break out
i need to moisturize (serums, moisturizer, oil) or i break like a cracker
i need to exfoliate or i break out. moisturizing just makes the skin i shed be goop instead of flakes. which looks nicer but still breaks me out like hell and feels gross if i dont remove it
if i do too little, my skin breaks out and riots and dries up
if i do too much my skin breaks out and riot and becomes so sensitive and agitated
and what is too much and what is to little seems to vary from day to day
no winning
i wish to be peeled like a grape

yeah I know
that still leaves your skin vulnerable
there is a reason flaky skin stays on your skin for a couple of days before falling off

I think the main problem is that if you have such a serious issue like the very very flaky skin, you can't look at it and be like "but I have to do 10 other things or I will break out"
the breakouts are pretty normal with a damaged skin barrier as well, so fixing that might already fix a few of the breakout issues
doing too much at the same time when you have compromised skin makes it so much worse, which is why you have to just power through a month of doing the bare minimum to repair the skin barrier and then once that is fixed can start takling the other remaining issues

I get you, it sucks and it's terrible, but sometimes what you think is the root of the problem isn't it, because you have something that hides the actual root of the problem
it's like what I had with my rosacea. I was convinced I had severe acne. I only started doing something against my rosacea because my face started to literally hurt the whole time just existing. and as soon as I managed to fix my skin (which took well over a month with specialised care) my skin got clear, nearly no pimples and inflammation anymore. Then I stopped because my products were empty and I wanted to empty the other ones and I'm back to looking like a pimply mess and my skin is flushed and hurts.

if your skin has a problem with the moisture barrier, you need to rebuild that with something that's suitable for your skin condition. yes, you need to remove the dead skin if it's so much the creams can't absorb, but you really shouldn't remove it all every day. the pimples will quite possible become less once your skin isn't so inflamed because of the broken barrier anymore. but using too many things against potential breakouts risks just making the barrier worse and thus break you out even more
it sounds illogical, but it's a common mistake

(also don't overuse salicylic acid or you will end up breaking out again)

the thing is that doing the bare monimum for a while doesnt fix anything at all, ive done this several times before. like i tolerated 6 months of accutane on the worse end of side effects the whole time, so a month or several of consistent use of whichever products that makes my skin better despite feeling like crap is nothing, i can do that no issue. but it doesnt actually change anything ?? the flaking doesnt stop, the sensitivity doesnt get better. like the skin looks a bit better but not bc the current issues stop happening, they just happen to nicer looking skin

i also do not exfoliate every day id die, i havent established a number of times before i even reach sensitivity level with the salicylic acid yet

like i

(remove makeup)
cleanser (hydrating, allegedly, but ive never met a cleanser that actually held true for)
aloe toner sometimes
salicylic acid andor alpha arbutin, im still experimenting with those two
moisturizer

oil or sunscreen depends on whats applicable at the time. morning, night

i tried the azelaic acid suspension from the ordinary but its making my skin more sensitive at this time so ill try it better later, to see if its the product or my skin being weird

like i rly dont think this is whats killing my face

i tried hylauronic acid before but i didnt notice mych so stopped, but im a bit more familiar with how it works now and will probably grab a new one to try later

I didn't mean it only as exfoliating with the acid, I also mean removing your dead skin with long oil massages

also, the bare minimum is water and a moisturiser, just saying

again, you seem to have an issue that's past the medical level and no amount of searching online will help you if you can't get a consultation from someone who can see your skin and actually know what they're talking about

also hyaluronic acid is just plumping, it won't really help with either the barrier or any other of the issues you've said to have

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uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:
yeah I know
that still leaves your skin vulnerable
there is a reason flaky skin stays on your skin for a couple of days before falling off

I think the main problem is that if you have such a serious issue like the very very flaky skin, you can't look at it and be like "but I have to do 10 other things or I will break out"
the breakouts are pretty normal with a damaged skin barrier as well, so fixing that might already fix a few of the breakout issues
doing too much at the same time when you have compromised skin makes it so much worse, which is why you have to just power through a month of doing the bare minimum to repair the skin barrier and then once that is fixed can start takling the other remaining issues

I get you, it sucks and it's terrible, but sometimes what you think is the root of the problem isn't it, because you have something that hides the actual root of the problem
it's like what I had with my rosacea. I was convinced I had severe acne. I only started doing something against my rosacea because my face started to literally hurt the whole time just existing. and as soon as I managed to fix my skin (which took well over a month with specialised care) my skin got clear, nearly no pimples and inflammation anymore. Then I stopped because my products were empty and I wanted to empty the other ones and I'm back to looking like a pimply mess and my skin is flushed and hurts.

if your skin has a problem with the moisture barrier, you need to rebuild that with something that's suitable for your skin condition. yes, you need to remove the dead skin if it's so much the creams can't absorb, but you really shouldn't remove it all every day. the pimples will quite possible become less once your skin isn't so inflamed because of the broken barrier anymore. but using too many things against potential breakouts risks just making the barrier worse and thus break you out even more
it sounds illogical, but it's a common mistake

(also don't overuse salicylic acid or you will end up breaking out again)

the thing is that doing the bare monimum for a while doesnt fix anything at all, ive done this several times before. like i tolerated 6 months of accutane on the worse end of side effects the whole time, so a month or several of consistent use of whichever products that makes my skin better despite feeling like crap is nothing, i can do that no issue. but it doesnt actually change anything ?? the flaking doesnt stop, the sensitivity doesnt get better. like the skin looks a bit better but not bc the current issues stop happening, they just happen to nicer looking skin

i also do not exfoliate every day id die, i havent established a number of times before i even reach sensitivity level with the salicylic acid yet

like i

(remove makeup)
cleanser (hydrating, allegedly, but ive never met a cleanser that actually held true for)
aloe toner sometimes
salicylic acid andor alpha arbutin, im still experimenting with those two
moisturizer

oil or sunscreen depends on whats applicable at the time. morning, night

i tried the azelaic acid suspension from the ordinary but its making my skin more sensitive at this time so ill try it better later, to see if its the product or my skin being weird

like i rly dont think this is whats killing my face

i tried hylauronic acid before but i didnt notice mych so stopped, but im a bit more familiar with how it works now and will probably grab a new one to try later

I didn't mean it only as exfoliating with the acid, I also mean removing your dead skin with long oil massages

also, the bare minimum is water and a moisturiser, just saying

again, you seem to have an issue that's past the medical level and no amount of searching online will help you if you can't get a consultation from someone who can see your skin and actually know what they're talking about

also hyaluronic acid is just plumping, it won't really help with either the barrier or any other of the issues you've said to have

and i also do not do that every day
ive done it once n it was yesterday

im telling u ive tried the minimum before n it doest change anything long term, idk why u keep assuming i havent when i keep saying i have. thats just what im doing right this moment, and is my current long term plan to see if it help stabilize my skin some more than it currently is

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meilin wrote:

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Sera wrote:
paula's choice bha is the only product so far that has irritated my skin. i also use ordinary caffeine solution but it doesn't really do anything for me so rn i'm just kinda,,, waiting for it to finish

ive been looking at the caffeine one actually, wondering if it would help with how puffy my eyes get suring allergy season
a lot of the reviews seem to think its a bit drying tho which isnt good when my skin is already so dry

hmm it wasn't drying on me but i don't think it really did anything else either

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MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:
the thing is that doing the bare monimum for a while doesnt fix anything at all, ive done this several times before. like i tolerated 6 months of accutane on the worse end of side effects the whole time, so a month or several of consistent use of whichever products that makes my skin better despite feeling like crap is nothing, i can do that no issue. but it doesnt actually change anything ?? the flaking doesnt stop, the sensitivity doesnt get better. like the skin looks a bit better but not bc the current issues stop happening, they just happen to nicer looking skin

i also do not exfoliate every day id die, i havent established a number of times before i even reach sensitivity level with the salicylic acid yet

like i

(remove makeup)
cleanser (hydrating, allegedly, but ive never met a cleanser that actually held true for)
aloe toner sometimes
salicylic acid andor alpha arbutin, im still experimenting with those two
moisturizer

oil or sunscreen depends on whats applicable at the time. morning, night

i tried the azelaic acid suspension from the ordinary but its making my skin more sensitive at this time so ill try it better later, to see if its the product or my skin being weird

like i rly dont think this is whats killing my face

i tried hylauronic acid before but i didnt notice mych so stopped, but im a bit more familiar with how it works now and will probably grab a new one to try later

I didn't mean it only as exfoliating with the acid, I also mean removing your dead skin with long oil massages

also, the bare minimum is water and a moisturiser, just saying

again, you seem to have an issue that's past the medical level and no amount of searching online will help you if you can't get a consultation from someone who can see your skin and actually know what they're talking about

also hyaluronic acid is just plumping, it won't really help with either the barrier or any other of the issues you've said to have

and i also do not do that every day
ive done it once n it was yesterday

im telling u ive tried the minimum before n it doest change anything long term, idk why u keep assuming i havent when i keep saying i have. thats just what im doing right this moment, and is my current long term plan to see if it help stabilize my skin some more than it currently is

because I struggle understanding you, I'm sorry

but well, I can only say again that you seem to have a serious skin issue and would be better of in medical hands than the internet or self-medicating by reading up on stuff, that's really all anyone can say

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uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:
I didn't mean it only as exfoliating with the acid, I also mean removing your dead skin with long oil massages

also, the bare minimum is water and a moisturiser, just saying

again, you seem to have an issue that's past the medical level and no amount of searching online will help you if you can't get a consultation from someone who can see your skin and actually know what they're talking about

also hyaluronic acid is just plumping, it won't really help with either the barrier or any other of the issues you've said to have

and i also do not do that every day
ive done it once n it was yesterday

im telling u ive tried the minimum before n it doest change anything long term, idk why u keep assuming i havent when i keep saying i have. thats just what im doing right this moment, and is my current long term plan to see if it help stabilize my skin some more than it currently is

because I struggle understanding you, I'm sorry

but well, I can only say again that you seem to have a serious skin issue and would be better of in medical hands than the internet or self-medicating by reading up on stuff, that's really all anyone can say

do u think one day we will learn to communiate effectively lmao

iyts whjat ive been saying too, but i gotta do something in the mean while bc i cant afford a derm appoi tment

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MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

uhyre wrote:
and i also do not do that every day
ive done it once n it was yesterday

im telling u ive tried the minimum before n it doest change anything long term, idk why u keep assuming i havent when i keep saying i have. thats just what im doing right this moment, and is my current long term plan to see if it help stabilize my skin some more than it currently is

because I struggle understanding you, I'm sorry

but well, I can only say again that you seem to have a serious skin issue and would be better of in medical hands than the internet or self-medicating by reading up on stuff, that's really all anyone can say

do u think one day we will learn to communiate effectively lmao

iyts whjat ive been saying too, but i gotta do something in the mean while bc i cant afford a derm appoi tment

honestly, I think it's mostly me being very sleep deprived since I'm so unwell at the moment and struggling a lot with english in general

have you thought about going to an apthecary and asking them? sometimes they can help
that skincare is usually a bit more expensive, but at least they aren't really that hardcore into selling you random shit you don't need and know a bit more about medical skin issues to be able to help? could be an interim solution if nothing else works