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wug wrote:

slave wrote:

Klasifikovany wrote:

slave wrote:
no i have not read the comment section, and yes there is fuckd up people in every groups.

humanity was a mistake

luckily there is more good people in this world

i don't know if i agree, what is goodness when people are too afraid to act on it? evil will prevail, as it always has

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Klasifikovany wrote:

slave wrote:

Klasifikovany wrote:
humanity was a mistake

luckily there is more good people in this world

i don't know if i agree, what is goodness when people are too afraid to act on it? evil will prevail, as it always has

i think norway has seen a lot of love and kidness today towards the horrible hings that happened last night

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Sobbing wrote:

Klasifikovany wrote:

slave wrote:

Klasifikovany wrote:
that's not the reality i want

im just saying that people tend to ignore the fact that _many_ (not all!!) muslims ecspesially sunni muslims dont accept lgbtq. and i think that is a problem itself. i have never said that its muslims fault that people hate them so much that they kill them.

of course that's a problem, but it's not exclusive to them. have you seen the comment sections on vg? i lost the last remaining hope i had for humanity today.

shes not saying that muslims are the sole perpertrators of lgbtq hate crimes, ur putting words in her mouth
both islam and christianity states that homosexuality is wrong, but it is in eastern countries where homosexuality is punishable by death

eastern values are the complete opposite of western ones
does it mean that all muslims are terrorists? no
but islam is a motivator to some terrorist attacks and if you do not agree with that its pure denial dawg

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Sobbing wrote:

Klasifikovany wrote:

slave wrote:
im just saying that people tend to ignore the fact that _many_ (not all!!) muslims ecspesially sunni muslims dont accept lgbtq. and i think that is a problem itself. i have never said that its muslims fault that people hate them so much that they kill them.

of course that's a problem, but it's not exclusive to them. have you seen the comment sections on vg? i lost the last remaining hope i had for humanity today.

shes not saying that muslims are the sole perpertrators of lgbtq hate crimes, ur putting words in her mouth
both islam and christianity states that homosexuality is wrong, but it is in eastern countries where homosexuality is punishable by death

eastern values are the complete opposite of western ones
does it mean that all muslims are terrorists? no
but islam is a motivator to some terrorist attacks and if you do not agree with that its pure denial dawg

thank you, im worried because people tend to ignore that fact

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Sad but the only shock
is that the shooting
occurred outside
the US.

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Sobbing wrote:

Klasifikovany wrote:

slave wrote:
im just saying that people tend to ignore the fact that _many_ (not all!!) muslims ecspesially sunni muslims dont accept lgbtq. and i think that is a problem itself. i have never said that its muslims fault that people hate them so much that they kill them.

of course that's a problem, but it's not exclusive to them. have you seen the comment sections on vg? i lost the last remaining hope i had for humanity today.

shes not saying that muslims are the sole perpertrators of lgbtq hate crimes, ur putting words in her mouth
both islam and christianity states that homosexuality is wrong, but it is in eastern countries where homosexuality is punishable by death

eastern values are the complete opposite of western ones
does it mean that all muslims are terrorists? no
but islam is a motivator to some terrorist attacks and if you do not agree with that its pure denial dawg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_homosexuality
look at the countries listed and take note

Article 354 of the Federal Penal Code states: "shall be sentenced to the death penalty, whoever used coercion in having sexual intercourse with a female or sodomy with a male."[17] In addition, same-sex relations may fall under the traditional Sharia category of Zina. Some courts have gone beyond codified laws and passed sentences of stoning or flogging, thus making same-sex relationships liable to the death penalty.[18][19]

Sharia Penal Code, implemented in stages since 2014, prescribes death by stoning as punishment for same-sex relations.[6]

Male-male anal intercourse is declared a capital offense in Iran's Islamic Penal Code, enacted in 1991. Articles 233 through 241 criminalise both female and male same-sex activity; for a first offence, the death penalty only applies to some cases of male-male penile-anal intercourse, with female-female activity and other cases of male-male activity being punished by flogging instead of execution. Under the combination of articles 136 and 238, a woman convicted for the fourth time of the crime of musaheqeh (tribadism) is to be executed

amongst others

it is clear that homosexuality is not tolerated in many islamic countries and islam in general as their quaran states in many verses that it is punishable https://quran.com/4:16/tafsirs/en-tafsir-maarif-ul-quran

conclusion;: it would make sense that some of the lbgqt perpertrators are muslim
there are several criteria as to what would make a person kill, so not all muslims are killers, but some killers are muslim, yea?

MissLondon
World Famous

MissLondon wrote:

Sobbing wrote:

Klasifikovany wrote:
of course that's a problem, but it's not exclusive to them. have you seen the comment sections on vg? i lost the last remaining hope i had for humanity today.

shes not saying that muslims are the sole perpertrators of lgbtq hate crimes, ur putting words in her mouth
both islam and christianity states that homosexuality is wrong, but it is in eastern countries where homosexuality is punishable by death

eastern values are the complete opposite of western ones
does it mean that all muslims are terrorists? no
but islam is a motivator to some terrorist attacks and if you do not agree with that its pure denial dawg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_homosexuality
look at the countries listed and take note

Article 354 of the Federal Penal Code states: "shall be sentenced to the death penalty, whoever used coercion in having sexual intercourse with a female or sodomy with a male."[17] In addition, same-sex relations may fall under the traditional Sharia category of Zina. Some courts have gone beyond codified laws and passed sentences of stoning or flogging, thus making same-sex relationships liable to the death penalty.[18][19]

Sharia Penal Code, implemented in stages since 2014, prescribes death by stoning as punishment for same-sex relations.[6]

Male-male anal intercourse is declared a capital offense in Iran's Islamic Penal Code, enacted in 1991. Articles 233 through 241 criminalise both female and male same-sex activity; for a first offence, the death penalty only applies to some cases of male-male penile-anal intercourse, with female-female activity and other cases of male-male activity being punished by flogging instead of execution. Under the combination of articles 136 and 238, a woman convicted for the fourth time of the crime of musaheqeh (tribadism) is to be executed

amongst others

it is clear that homosexuality is not tolerated in many islamic countries and islam in general as their quaran states in many verses that it is punishable https://quran.com/4:16/tafsirs/en-tafsir-maarif-ul-quran

conclusion;: it would make sense that some of the lbgqt perpertrators are muslim
there are several criteria as to what would make a person kill, so not all muslims are killers, but some killers are muslim, yea?

Makes sense
when considering the guy
who massacred people
at the Orlando nightclub

Wuwu
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wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

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wug wrote:

wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

thank you that's more in the direction of what i was thinking

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wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

sadly it was more likely today since the victims was gay people

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wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

i dont know where you get racism and hatred from either. no one said they hate muslims

Wuwu
Minister of Pop

wuwu wrote:

slave wrote:

wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

i dont know where you get racism and hatred from either. no one said they hate muslims

i am not talking about people in this thread, i am talking about the people who are vocal and use every opportunity like this to spread more fear and hatred

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Sobbing wrote:

wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

it is common for muslims because they believe in islam to be against lbqt
it is not common to be right wing for every white person

that is the difference
muslim people as a whole are not to be blamed for terrorist attacks, that is wrong
what is looked down on are their values or beliefs which are the reasons for SOME of the committed terrorist attacks

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Sobbing wrote:

wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

it is common for muslims because they believe in islam to be against lbqt
it is not common to be right wing for every white person

that is the difference
muslim people as a whole are not to be blamed for terrorist attacks, that is wrong
what is looked down on are their values or beliefs which are the reasons for SOME of the committed terrorist attacks

if 99% of all whites were right wing it would make theoretically make sense to place the blame on whites if a white supremacist committed an act of terror but that is not the case

does that make sense

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wug wrote:

Sobbing wrote:

wuwu wrote:
no one is saying that no muslims are anti lgbt. that is an obviously false statement. this is about muslims as a group always being blamed when one radical extremist person commits an act of terror. do people blame every right wing person when a white supremacist commits terror? no, i have never seen that.
people always use terrible events to excuse their racism and hatred and it is sick.

it is common for muslims because they believe in islam to be against lbqt
it is not common to be right wing for every white person

that is the difference
muslim people as a whole are not to be blamed for terrorist attacks, that is wrong
what is looked down on are their values or beliefs which are the reasons for SOME of the committed terrorist attacks

Radicalisation occurs in all groups regardless of the intention behind the "source material" that they use to justify their actions. It is fundamentally unfair to blame the religion for the action of radicalised members, we don't do it for any other religion and should therefore refrain from doing it with Islam. No religion would support murder of people regardless of whether they lead their life in "sin" (which is a Christian concept anyway), because other points should always cancel out that. Ultimately, in religion, god or the divinity of the religion or some other related concept is the final judge; the followers of the religion are never supposed to take this role.