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this is so sad
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Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
then she shouldve brought it up in private
is this your first time watching frenemies lol. 

ethan does EVERYTHING in public. 
i dont like trisha, nor care about ethan so i ony watched the argument yes

and she doesnt?
yea i figured lol. 
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Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
is this your first time watching frenemies lol. 

ethan does EVERYTHING in public. 
i dont like trisha, nor care about ethan so i ony watched the argument yes

and she doesnt?
yea i figured lol. 
okay? i dont have to have watched all the episodes to have an opinion
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lmao its tragic shes just so unlikeable that people will take the other persons side even when shes right 
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Claire wrote:
lmao its tragic shes just so unlikeable that people will take the other persons side even when shes right 
its not about that, im not taking a "side" i just dont think the way she was acting was okay
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Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
lmao its tragic shes just so unlikeable that people will take the other persons side even when shes right 
its not about that, im not taking a "side" i just dont think the way she was acting was okay
not saying that he was either  or whatever, she clearly got triggered at what he said annd he didnt handle it well
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Heartbroken wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
lmao its tragic shes just so unlikeable that people will take the other persons side even when shes right 
its not about that, im not taking a "side" i just dont think the way she was acting was okay
not saying that he was either  or whatever, she clearly got triggered at what he said annd he didnt handle it well
like shes clearly manic and unwell and possibly back on drugs and hes like 'oh yea ok tell me more' like dumbass should have shut the cameras off. hes the only person who had control in the situation. if im in a room with a person experiencing extreme mania and theyre being rude and i put that on youtube- im the bad guy.
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Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
its not about that, im not taking a "side" i just dont think the way she was acting was okay
not saying that he was either  or whatever, she clearly got triggered at what he said annd he didnt handle it well
like shes clearly manic and unwell and possibly back on drugs and hes like 'oh yea ok tell me more' like dumbass should have shut the cameras off. hes the only person who had control in the situation. if im in a room with a person experiencing extreme mania and theyre being rude and i put that on youtube- im the bad guy.
like either he's completely stupid or he wanted the drama views. 

if you choose to work with trisha paytas you are making a choice to bring drama into your life for views i aint gonna pity anyone who made that choice. i can choose to adopt a tiger and if it eats my cat thats on me not the tiger.
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Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
its not about that, im not taking a "side" i just dont think the way she was acting was okay
not saying that he was either  or whatever, she clearly got triggered at what he said annd he didnt handle it well
like shes clearly manic and unwell and possibly back on drugs and hes like 'oh yea ok tell me more' like dumbass should have shut the cameras off. hes the only person who had control in the situation. if im in a room with a person experiencing extreme mania and theyre being rude and i put that on youtube- im the bad guy.
yes, the cameras should've been cut off, but to me it looked like he was trying to get to the root of it, and move on, and clearly that wsnt the way

dealing with mania and bpd is HARD, like i know if i ask any of my friends they'd agree that its hard to deal with when I get like that (and im not even diagnosed yet) i dont think it makes him a bad person to not always be able to handle it, bc its hard
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Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
not saying that he was either  or whatever, she clearly got triggered at what he said annd he didnt handle it well
like shes clearly manic and unwell and possibly back on drugs and hes like 'oh yea ok tell me more' like dumbass should have shut the cameras off. hes the only person who had control in the situation. if im in a room with a person experiencing extreme mania and theyre being rude and i put that on youtube- im the bad guy.
yes, the cameras should've been cut off, but to me it looked like he was trying to get to the root of it, and move on, and clearly that wsnt the way

dealing with mania and bpd is HARD, like i know if i ask any of my friends they'd agree that its hard to deal with when I get like that (and im not even diagnosed yet) i dont think it makes him a bad person to not always be able to handle it, bc its hard
like its reasonable to not be able to handle it. the best thing to do is remove yourself from the situation. not broadcast the situation on youtube lmao like how could anyone think putting that episode online was a good idea. its extreme stupidity OR it's malicious and WANTING the drama.

idk im probably more inclined to think the guy is an actual idiot. like im sorry you gotta be an idiot to air these fights like this.
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Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
like shes clearly manic and unwell and possibly back on drugs and hes like 'oh yea ok tell me more' like dumbass should have shut the cameras off. hes the only person who had control in the situation. if im in a room with a person experiencing extreme mania and theyre being rude and i put that on youtube- im the bad guy.
yes, the cameras should've been cut off, but to me it looked like he was trying to get to the root of it, and move on, and clearly that wsnt the way

dealing with mania and bpd is HARD, like i know if i ask any of my friends they'd agree that its hard to deal with when I get like that (and im not even diagnosed yet) i dont think it makes him a bad person to not always be able to handle it, bc its hard
like its reasonable to not be able to handle it. the best thing to do is remove yourself from the situation. not broadcast the situation on youtube lmao like how could anyone think putting that episode online was a good idea. its extreme stupidity OR it's malicious and WANTING the drama.

idk im probably more inclined to think the guy is an actual idiot. like im sorry you gotta be an idiot to air these fights like this.
I do agree wholeheartedly it shouldnt have been aired, honestly i justhope she got proffesional help after this, and possibly for them to talk it out behind the scenes cause as far as ive understood they do rly matter to eachother

I dont think he was trying to be malicious, probably just didnt think it through enough i guess
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Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
yes, the cameras should've been cut off, but to me it looked like he was trying to get to the root of it, and move on, and clearly that wsnt the way

dealing with mania and bpd is HARD, like i know if i ask any of my friends they'd agree that its hard to deal with when I get like that (and im not even diagnosed yet) i dont think it makes him a bad person to not always be able to handle it, bc its hard
like its reasonable to not be able to handle it. the best thing to do is remove yourself from the situation. not broadcast the situation on youtube lmao like how could anyone think putting that episode online was a good idea. its extreme stupidity OR it's malicious and WANTING the drama.

idk im probably more inclined to think the guy is an actual idiot. like im sorry you gotta be an idiot to air these fights like this.
I do agree wholeheartedly it shouldnt have been aired, honestly i justhope she got proffesional help after this, and possibly for them to talk it out behind the scenes cause as far as ive understood they do rly matter to eachother

I dont think he was trying to be malicious, probably just didnt think it through enough i guess

yea she allegedly has been seeing a therapist multiple times a week for months now. 

but shes literally got thirty years of trauma to get thru and its gonna take her a long time to be like OK realistically. like this woman has been on drugs, she's been prostituted, she's been a victim as a child, allegedly and i'm inclined to beleive her. and every action she's taken in her life has been like a negative contribution. like shes well past 'hope she gets help for this' like shes got lots and lots to work thru. 

she said at one point after the fight said that she shouldnt have chosen to work with family- so i think theres room for her to remain friends with ethan but theyshouldnt work in a professional capacity together. but who knows honestly. im not convinced moses will stay with her forever you know. it would be beneficial if they all met with a therapist together if moses stays with her.
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it really wouldnt shock me if in a few months she says she was using during this time. the last couple weeks shes been really really high energy on the show.
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Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
like its reasonable to not be able to handle it. the best thing to do is remove yourself from the situation. not broadcast the situation on youtube lmao like how could anyone think putting that episode online was a good idea. its extreme stupidity OR it's malicious and WANTING the drama.

idk im probably more inclined to think the guy is an actual idiot. like im sorry you gotta be an idiot to air these fights like this.
I do agree wholeheartedly it shouldnt have been aired, honestly i justhope she got proffesional help after this, and possibly for them to talk it out behind the scenes cause as far as ive understood they do rly matter to eachother

I dont think he was trying to be malicious, probably just didnt think it through enough i guess

yea she allegedly has been seeing a therapist multiple times a week for months now. 

but shes literally got thirty years of trauma to get thru and its gonna take her a long time to be like OK realistically. like this woman has been on drugs, she's been prostituted, she's been a victim as a child, allegedly and i'm inclined to beleive her. and every action she's taken in her life has been like a negative contribution. like shes well past 'hope she gets help for this' like shes got lots and lots to work thru. 

she said at one point after the fight said that she shouldnt have chosen to work with family- so i think theres room for her to remain friends with ethan but theyshouldnt work in a professional capacity together. but who knows honestly. im not convinced moses will stay with her forever you know. it would be beneficial if they all met with a therapist together if moses stays with her.
of course. therapy isnt no quick thing, but all i can do is wish for her to get better through exstensive therapy, bc i wouldnt wish it upon anyone

at one side i wouldnt be surprised if they come back in the show, its happened before ive seen, but i hope they dont. seems better off as friends indeed.. and yeah, idk
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idk i feel a lot of ways about everything here   

i cant imagine having the chaos inside that she must have. like i get racing thoughts and some chaos sometimes but not the way that she seems to or people with bpd seem to. i really feel for her. 

i feel like people with bpd just feel things deeper than other people do? like in my dumbass idiot opinion like you just feel your emotions really hard. and that must be miserable when its bad feelings. 
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Heartbroken wrote:
Claire wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
I do agree wholeheartedly it shouldnt have been aired, honestly i justhope she got proffesional help after this, and possibly for them to talk it out behind the scenes cause as far as ive understood they do rly matter to eachother

I dont think he was trying to be malicious, probably just didnt think it through enough i guess

yea she allegedly has been seeing a therapist multiple times a week for months now. 

but shes literally got thirty years of trauma to get thru and its gonna take her a long time to be like OK realistically. like this woman has been on drugs, she's been prostituted, she's been a victim as a child, allegedly and i'm inclined to beleive her. and every action she's taken in her life has been like a negative contribution. like shes well past 'hope she gets help for this' like shes got lots and lots to work thru. 

she said at one point after the fight said that she shouldnt have chosen to work with family- so i think theres room for her to remain friends with ethan but theyshouldnt work in a professional capacity together. but who knows honestly. im not convinced moses will stay with her forever you know. it would be beneficial if they all met with a therapist together if moses stays with her.
of course. therapy isnt no quick thing, but all i can do is wish for her to get better through exstensive therapy, bc i wouldnt wish it upon anyone

at one side i wouldnt be surprised if they come back in the show, its happened before ive seen, but i hope they dont. seems better off as friends indeed.. and yeah, idk
yea ive been saying this wont be the end of the show because they did this twice already

but tbh it should be the end of the show for the sake of the two or three babies hila is carying lmao 

liek early on hila stopped going to the filmings of frenemies like i think hila figured out she could only take trisha in small doses but this kind of drama is probably not something you can distance from when your husband is like actively going thru it like this. 
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