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Annie is black now
Annie
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mikkelrev wrote:
December wrote:
mikkelrev wrote:
im not exaggerating when i say that i was taught (in school) that africa was a country and everyone there lives in straw and clay huts. everyone. lions are roaming the streets

were northern europeans. we know nothing
what the
granted i got the short short shortest straw when it came to schools but like. that shouldnt be in the curriculum at all no matter what
in my school my teachers would say the n word in lit class like it was nothing ad one even reffered to black people as "negros" and i was like ma'am-
Bimbo
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Also why are people upset about the whole Ariel thing? She could wear a wig in the movie, we don't know yet. Has a trailer been released?
December
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Annie wrote:
December wrote:
Annie wrote:
i wanna know how many people talking about this n getting upset are white. please. make my day
some characters are just supposed to be a certain way. i love representation but why change so many classic characters that like has a clear description of what they're supposed to be...it's just weird to me. representation is important, but there's so many other ways to do it.

i'm gonna get attacked now

heres a great thing to read
lemme quote a thing i wrote in this thread a few minutes ago: "it's kinda different with ariel tho since in the original story it didn't say hair color"
Annie
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"In the Hans Christian Anderson tale the titular character has no name, and is only called “the ‘Little Mermaid.’” In an earlier, 1970s Anime version she is called “Marina.”

In the HCA version she is said to be pale, pale white, as was the European standard of beauty of the time—getting a tan didn’t become big until the 1930s, when it went from a sign working “in the fields” to a sign you had money lay around on the beach all day.

I assume this question is being asked because of the “live action” version Disney is coming out.
Well, for those among us so concerned with what happened in the “Danish Tale”

(1) The Mermaid was in love with the prince and wanted to have a soul so she could go to heaven

(2) The Sea Witch is not evil, but rather a neutral enabler. She tries to talk the mermaid out of it, but tells
her she can make her human—with pretty legs and the ability to dance but she will feel as though she is being stabbed during her transformation, and when she walks she will feel as though she is walking on knives.

(3) The Mermaid gives up her voice (by having her tongue taken out) as payment for services rendered.

(4) The Sea Witch tells the Mermaid that if the Prince marries her, part of his soul will flow into her, and she will then have a soul. If he marries another, the day after her heart will break and she will dissolve into sea foam—the fate of mermaids when they die.

(5) She drinks the potion and the Prince finds her, and basically treats her like a pet

(6) The Prince is arranged to be married to another, and at first he refuses but then finds out she was the young lady who nursed him back to health, and he credits with saving his life (and not the Mermaid who actually did) and he had been in love with her during his recovery—and jumps at the chance.

(7) The mermaid sadly awaits to die when her sisters arrive having sold their long hair to the Sea Witch in exchange for a dagger. They tell her to plunge it into the princes heart and when his blood touches her legs she will turn back into a Mermaid and live out her 300-year-old life.

( 8 ) The Mermaid can’t do it and throws herself into the sea, where she dissolves into foam. Only she finds she has become a “daughter of the air” and will spend 300 years doing “good deeds” to earn a soul and enter heaven. The book ends saying that the tears of naught children add to her tenure and this it becomes a “better not pout, better not cry” message for kids.

So the 1989 Disney version gets far, far away from the Hans Christian Anderson story. The live action story will be based on the Disney tale and they can cast and tweak it as they see fit. If one feels upset that they abandon the source material—and the race of the actress playing the Mermaid is the thing that is most upsetting—you should probably ask yourself why (hint, it’s racism) and this can be a good time for some self-reflection and growing into a better person.

People like having representation. And white people don’t want for it."
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everybody be ginger so we can stand up against hollywood's discriminatory behaviour
Annie
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i feel robbed shouldn't i be an orphaned billionaire by now?
December
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and now you're ignoring my reply, ofc
Bimbo
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Annie wrote:
i feel robbed shouldn't i be an orphaned billionaire by now?

Was Annie a billionaire? I've never watched the musical or the movie, so I have no idea what the story is
Private
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Annie wrote:
Referee wrote:
Heaven wrote:
im just saying gingers have not suffered nearly as much but
Representation isn't about suffering, it's about... representation. 

Suffering isn't a contest anyway, red heads face discrimination too. 
PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME you compared redhead "discrimination" to black people's history on discrimination. PLEASE TELL ME IM JARED, 19
It was Heaven that was comparing discrimination.
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Referee wrote:
Annie wrote:
Referee wrote:
Representation isn't about suffering, it's about... representation. 

Suffering isn't a contest anyway, red heads face discrimination too. 
PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME you compared redhead "discrimination" to black people's history on discrimination. PLEASE TELL ME IM JARED, 19
It was Heaven that was comparing discrimination.
huh black people is a subject in this topic come on nowe.. im not even gona try further or else i'll be seen as a twitter imbecile ooffhghfgh
Bimbo
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Referee wrote:
Annie wrote:
Referee wrote:
Representation isn't about suffering, it's about... representation. 

Suffering isn't a contest anyway, red heads face discrimination too. 
PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME you compared redhead "discrimination" to black people's history on discrimination. PLEASE TELL ME IM JARED, 19
It was Heaven that was comparing discrimination.

I think Annie was talking about that ^^
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VanityVogue wrote:
Annie wrote:
i feel robbed shouldn't i be an orphaned billionaire by now?

Was Annie a billionaire? I've never watched the musical or the movie, so I have no idea what the story is
Annie is the story about a orphan who gets adopted by a billionaire , he adopts her for his self image but along the way he comes to love her like his own child
Bimbo
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NixieFae wrote:
VanityVogue wrote:
Annie wrote:
i feel robbed shouldn't i be an orphaned billionaire by now?

Was Annie a billionaire? I've never watched the musical or the movie, so I have no idea what the story is
Annie is the story about a orphan who gets adopted by a billionaire 

Oh she ends up getting adopted huh? Idk why but I always assumed she just made a life for herself on her own after not being adopted lol
Callum
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im too tired for this but i want to contribute but im gonna die 
Private
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can we talk about how the music was good in the remake tho llike they kinda updated the sound to be more contemporary and it was a good thing
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