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someone shot n killed ppl outside one of oslo
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Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
Again, yes, duh. What's the point though? What do you suggest be done about it? And why do you think it necessary to go into right now, specifically by you, who I assume have nothing to do with Muslim people or Islam as a faith?
i literally just said there is no point nor that i can do anything
with that logic there is no point in discussing anything at any time except at congress or something
this is a forum
people discuss for the sake of it not to bring on a world change
No, there is specifically no point in discussing this topic the way you have because all it does is further demonise Muslim people.
i am not demonizing muslim people nor is it my intention
i do not like religion
that does not automatically that i condemn every person who participates in it
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:43
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Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
They're not "criminals" because they're Muslim, they commit crimes because they're poor, refugees in a country that brought them in with no plans on how to integrate them into their new home, Jesus fuck
who said that they are criminals because they are muslim????????? i said that many of the criminals are muslim(IN SWEDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), not that muslims are criminals nor did i imply that anywhere
God, I know you mean well but your thoughts and feelings on this matter are not fully formed enough to continue in this argument without further doubling down and embarrassing yourself.
instead of further discussing you decide to make it personal
classic projection

u started of well alam
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:44
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Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
I don't think Sweden and Norway are comparable countries at all on this topic. Norway has significantly less immigration than Sweden, and is in total half the population of Sweden. Sweden is simply too populous to be appropriately compared to the other Nordic countries. 
ok then redact norway from my statement
I still cannot find myself agreeing with it, it's fundamentally problematic to attribute so much significance to the religion and/or ethnicity of people, regardless of their actions. We have seen this before, and should not want a repeat of history. Obviously it's not identical, but we should be very careful here. 
basing everything off of ethnicity or religion is not correct, no, but there are common denominators as to why some things are more prominent in certain groups than others, whatever it is, it is the way it is
what i can agree on is being able to present those findings in a non harmful way as to not generalize
but that is difficult to do when the findings show that it is indeed that way, maybe not for everyone, but the majority

what do u do then
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:48
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wug wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
ok then redact norway from my statement
I still cannot find myself agreeing with it, it's fundamentally problematic to attribute so much significance to the religion and/or ethnicity of people, regardless of their actions. We have seen this before, and should not want a repeat of history. Obviously it's not identical, but we should be very careful here. 
basing everything off of ethnicity or religion is not correct, no, but there are common denominators as to why some things are more prominent in certain groups than others, whatever it is, it is the way it is
what i can agree on is being able to present those findings in a non harmful way as to not generalize
but that is difficult to do when the findings show that it is indeed that way, maybe not for everyone, but the majority

what do u do then
wdym what do i do? 
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:49
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Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
I still cannot find myself agreeing with it, it's fundamentally problematic to attribute so much significance to the religion and/or ethnicity of people, regardless of their actions. We have seen this before, and should not want a repeat of history. Obviously it's not identical, but we should be very careful here. 
basing everything off of ethnicity or religion is not correct, no, but there are common denominators as to why some things are more prominent in certain groups than others, whatever it is, it is the way it is
what i can agree on is being able to present those findings in a non harmful way as to not generalize
but that is difficult to do when the findings show that it is indeed that way, maybe not for everyone, but the majority

what do u do then
wdym what do i do? 
not u in general
i mean in that situation, what do you do
the one i described
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:50
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Alam wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
who said that they are criminals because they are muslim????????? i said that many of the criminals are muslim(IN SWEDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), not that muslims are criminals nor did i imply that anywhere
God, I know you mean well but your thoughts and feelings on this matter are not fully formed enough to continue in this argument without further doubling down and embarrassing yourself.
instead of further discussing you decide to make it personal
classic projection

u started of well alam
Don't psychoanalyze me
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:50
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wug wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
basing everything off of ethnicity or religion is not correct, no, but there are common denominators as to why some things are more prominent in certain groups than others, whatever it is, it is the way it is
what i can agree on is being able to present those findings in a non harmful way as to not generalize
but that is difficult to do when the findings show that it is indeed that way, maybe not for everyone, but the majority

what do u do then
wdym what do i do? 
not u in general
i mean in that situation, what do you do
the one i described
I don't know, but one way to solve some of the issues is to educate people to avoid the intense waves of racism that follows whenever Muslims and radicalised Islamists do crimes which are covered in the media. 
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:52
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BunnyButts wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
basing everything off of ethnicity or religion is not correct, no, but there are common denominators as to why some things are more prominent in certain groups than others, whatever it is, it is the way it is
what i can agree on is being able to present those findings in a non harmful way as to not generalize
but that is difficult to do when the findings show that it is indeed that way, maybe not for everyone, but the majority

what do u do then
wdym what do i do? 
not u in general
i mean in that situation, what do you do
the one i described
You get rid of white supremacy duh
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:54
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Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Alam wrote:
God, I know you mean well but your thoughts and feelings on this matter are not fully formed enough to continue in this argument without further doubling down and embarrassing yourself.
instead of further discussing you decide to make it personal
classic projection

u started of well alam
Don't psychoanalyze me
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Date: 26-06-2022 00:55
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Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
wdym what do i do? 
not u in general
i mean in that situation, what do you do
the one i described
I don't know, but one way to solve some of the issues is to educate people to avoid the intense waves of racism that follows whenever Muslims and radicalised Islamists do crimes which are covered in the media. 
yes good

but it should also be allowed as a subject to be discussed
for example
statement: majority of russians are alcoholic
findings: true, due to socially acceptable behavior as well as big revenue of money for the government

now imagine if most car crashes were due to russians being drunk
eventually car accidents, starring russian people would bring on a generalization, yes

that does not mean ever russian is a drunk driver, but many drunk drivers are russian due to the circumstances

people get especially twisted on certain subjects presented this way even if they are true, but i think it has more to do with ones perception of the message rather than the statement itself

there is a reason as to why its me, u, n alam discussing in this thread and not other individuals, all due to perception but the statements made in this thread are facts wether its liked or not 
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Date: 26-06-2022 01:02
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kruspersille wrote:
Idk what the 80 posts t about but i hope everyone went out in the streets today and celebrated regardless. They cancelled oslo pride and the parade, but me and my friends have been celebrating for 8 hrs now together with what felt like half of oslo city. Heading home now
stay safe and love whoever u love
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Date: 26-06-2022 01:04
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Sobbing wrote:
ok not all statements are facts in this thread, just the data, others are personal observations or assumptions on certain topics, again, due to ones perception
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Date: 26-06-2022 01:04
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Sobbing wrote:
kruspersille wrote:
Idk what the 80 posts t about but i hope everyone went out in the streets today and celebrated regardless. They cancelled oslo pride and the parade, but me and my friends have been celebrating for 8 hrs now together with what felt like half of oslo city. Heading home now
stay safe and love whoever u love
glad u celebrated hope u stayed safe  today is an important day
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Date: 26-06-2022 01:04
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kruspersille wrote:
This better not be 7 pages abt religion
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Date: 26-06-2022 01:08
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Sobbing wrote:
kruspersille wrote:
This better not be 7 pages abt religion
it is
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Date: 26-06-2022 01:09
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