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help i just read the lesbian manifesto
Annie
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Annie wrote:
Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

isn't non-straight lgtbq+?

straight trans people? hetero romantic asexual people?
Are asexual people lgbt today?
yes
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Date: 14-12-2020 17:54
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ouch wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Alam wrote:
ouch wrote:
Who can say they r queer, only non straights or other lgbt too
Anyone can say they are queer, it means nothing.

except cishets who are into bondage pls
Goodbye now
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Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
disintegration wrote:
I feel like this whole all men are trash and women are always better people rhetoric may be very unhelpful and toxic for bi girls who fall for a guy, just a thought.
I think its toxic for everyone tbh, and it's why I despise radfems (in the "sex as a class"  sense not anachro-feminists) and political lesbianism/lesbian and/or women separatism 

When I really think about it it actually sounds sexist af 

Women can never chose a man who is good for them, men are always toxic and abusive, women are more empathetic and nurturing thus more kind and make better partners 

Um... I like to think women are strong enough to demand respect and you know guys don't have to be tools 

Also honestly women can be just as difficult, I am bi my heart was broken by a straight 
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MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

isn't non-straight lgtbq+?

straight trans people? hetero romantic asexual people?
Are asexual people lgbt today?

in theory yes, but many in the lgbtq+ community don't want them there and many ace people don't feel represented in the over-sexualised community that it is
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Date: 14-12-2020 17:55
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wrote:
Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

isn't non-straight lgtbq+?

straight trans people? hetero romantic asexual people?
Are asexual people lgbt today?

yes because they are not on the kinsey scale like the are not a 0? they are more like an x.
Date: 14-12-2020 17:55
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
disintegration wrote:
I feel like this whole all men are trash and women are always better people rhetoric may be very unhelpful and toxic for bi girls who fall for a guy, just a thought.
I think its toxic for everyone tbh, and it's why I despise radfems (in the "sex as a class"  sense not anachro-feminists) and political lesbianism/lesbian and/or women separatism 

When I really think about it it actually sounds sexist af 

Women can never chose a man who is good for them, men are always toxic and abusive, women are more empathetic and nurturing thus more kind and make better partners 

Um... I like to think women are strong enough to demand respect and you know guys don't have to be tools 

Also honestly women can be just as difficult, I am bi my heart was broken by a straight 

oh, it is fucking sexist, no argument here
there is literally no difference between thinking all men should die or all women should die
it's absolutely the same
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Date: 14-12-2020 17:56
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wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
disintegration wrote:
I feel like this whole all men are trash and women are always better people rhetoric may be very unhelpful and toxic for bi girls who fall for a guy, just a thought.
I think its toxic for everyone tbh, and it's why I despise radfems (in the "sex as a class"  sense not anachro-feminists) and political lesbianism/lesbian and/or women separatism 

When I really think about it it actually sounds sexist af 

Women can never chose a man who is good for them, men are always toxic and abusive, women are more empathetic and nurturing thus more kind and make better partners 

Um... I like to think women are strong enough to demand respect and you know guys don't have to be tools 

Also honestly women can be just as difficult, I am bi my heart was broken by a straight 
don't be a pickme
Date: 14-12-2020 17:57
Alam
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Alam wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Alam wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

gosh, being on VP must be torture
That being said, men make me uncomfortable for being men. And that's on toxic masculinity as a trans guy.

tbh, toxic masculinity is even painful for cishet men - not all, but ... not everyone is toxic and bad
Yuh, in the democratic first world, it is, for the most part, more dangerous for men's mental health than it is for women's.
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ouch wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:

straight trans people? hetero romantic asexual people?
Are asexual people lgbt today?

in theory yes, but many in the lgbtq+ community don't want them there and many ace people don't feel represented in the over-sexualised community that it is
I will say since asexuality has been the worst thing to happen to me in that,, general area I hav to say I must b part of the lgbtiqhaka, das the criteria no
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wug wrote:
the what 
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Alam
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Alam wrote:
Annie wrote:
Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:

straight trans people? hetero romantic asexual people?
Are asexual people lgbt today?
yes
Sure.
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Date: 14-12-2020 17:57
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
disintegration wrote:
I feel like this whole all men are trash and women are always better people rhetoric may be very unhelpful and toxic for bi girls who fall for a guy, just a thought.
I think its toxic for everyone tbh, and it's why I despise radfems (in the "sex as a class"  sense not anachro-feminists) and political lesbianism/lesbian and/or women separatism 

When I really think about it it actually sounds sexist af 

Women can never chose a man who is good for them, men are always toxic and abusive, women are more empathetic and nurturing thus more kind and make better partners 

Um... I like to think women are strong enough to demand respect and you know guys don't have to be tools 

Also honestly women can be just as difficult, I am bi my heart was broken by a straight 

oh, it is fucking sexist, no argument here
there is literally no difference between thinking all men should die or all women should die
it's absolutely the same
Actually my argument is thinking all men are toxic is basically believing we cant rid ourselves of patriarchy and also tends to rely on gender stereotypes and stuff 
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Date: 14-12-2020 17:58
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but honey u do u, who cares. 
Date: 14-12-2020 17:58
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:

straight trans people? hetero romantic asexual people?
Are asexual people lgbt today?

yes because they are not on the kinsey scale like the are not a 0? they are more like an x.

I feel like they are more like "connected"? like, I don't know how to explain it, but they can be anywhere "on" the scale and then in a perpendicular line from there away defining thr "level" of sexual interest? because asexual is a spectrum in itself
(me, trying to work with words, I honestly don't know how to explain this full in english so it makes sense)
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Date: 14-12-2020 17:58
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wrote:
Alam wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Alam wrote:
That being said, men make me uncomfortable for being men. And that's on toxic masculinity as a trans guy.

tbh, toxic masculinity is even painful for cishet men - not all, but ... not everyone is toxic and bad
Yuh, in the democratic first world, it is, for the most part, more dangerous for men's mental health than it is for women's.

not really sure i agree here because gender roles are still such a big and toxic part of modern societies
Date: 14-12-2020 17:58
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