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acidreflux wrote:
disintegration wrote:
bones wrote:
stop caring about trans people

she and her little cult would lose like 50% of their shared interests then
>cult

when ppl forget radical feminism is the norm outside of western countries. 

then go donate  some money to organizations that provide reproductive health in non western countries and stop whining about trans people
Date: 14-03-2021 19:10
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bones wrote:
disintegration wrote:
bones wrote:
stop caring about trans people
she and her little cult would lose like 50% of their shared interests then
yea i guess the alt right n white nationalists are less about the lesbian rights and more about the oppression of trans ppl tht groups like lgb alliance advocate for.....................

not the bed fellas I would choose, for sure ....
Date: 14-03-2021 19:12
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disintegration wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
disintegration wrote:

she and her little cult would lose like 50% of their shared interests then
>cult

when ppl forget radical feminism is the norm outside of western countries. 

then go donate  some money to organizations that provide reproductive health in non western countries and stop whining about trans people
i do already support women owned businesses and have been engaged in various charities that helps impoverished women who are suffering under sex based oppression, so yeah ...
also where am i whining abt anyone? 
Date: 14-03-2021 19:12
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Claire wrote:
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Its like being referred to as a ciswoman all the time you know?
yea why would that bother me. i don't get it. that's an objective reality and not any kind of assignment of good or bad. 
Cause people want to be referred to by more then their gender identity 
i think i'd need brunhilde to explain their point tbh. like are people just saying this out of nowhere in some wierd like insulting way or is this this being used to describe them in scenarios where it makes sense to mention it. because it doesnt bother me if someone accurately descsribes me as cis in a conversation where that information would be pertinent. but i guess it would be weird iff people were like constantly saying it for no reason? idk the original statement "as trans i don't like being called trans" just didn't make sense to me. like they're even calling themself trans in that statement so theyre clearly ok to call themself trans so why should it bother them if someone else describes them as trans. maybe theres a language barrier here.
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:12
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Melody wrote:
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as trans i fucking hate being called trans, and i'm sure many others feel the same way
we are humans too, don't treat us like we're below you - likely out of all people confused about genders, it's the people who don't identify as their assigned sex. stop worrying about us and just respect us like any other person thanks (or don't, if that's your thing fr)
that doesnt make sense unless you think being trans is negative or bad trait. i don't understand this.
the way you're wording this sounds like you think being trans is a choice, but i digress

i absolutely loathe being seen as "trans" rather than the gender i identify as - though i highly prefer if one would just stop referring to people by gender and use their name instead, would save a lot of time and tears

sexism isn't limited on men hating women or vise versa - if you see us as our gender over our entire being then you're stuck in the same problem as people in traditional, hella sexist times
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:15
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Melody wrote:
Claire wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Claire wrote:
yea why would that bother me. i don't get it. that's an objective reality and not any kind of assignment of good or bad. 
Cause people want to be referred to by more then their gender identity 
i think i'd need brunhilde to explain their point tbh. like are people just saying this out of nowhere in some wierd like insulting way or is this this being used to describe them in scenarios where it makes sense to mention it. because it doesnt bother me if someone accurately descsribes me as cis in a conversation where that information would be pertinent. but i guess it would be weird iff people were like constantly saying it for no reason? idk the original statement "as trans i don't like being called trans" just didn't make sense to me. like they're even calling themself trans in that statement so theyre clearly ok to call themself trans so why should it bother them if someone else describes them as trans. maybe theres a language barrier here.
because society forces us to make a big point about it, only seeing us as genders rather than people
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:17
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Claire wrote:
brunhilde wrote:
Claire wrote:
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as trans i fucking hate being called trans, and i'm sure many others feel the same way
we are humans too, don't treat us like we're below you - likely out of all people confused about genders, it's the people who don't identify as their assigned sex. stop worrying about us and just respect us like any other person thanks (or don't, if that's your thing fr)
that doesnt make sense unless you think being trans is negative or bad trait. i don't understand this.
the way you're wording this sounds like you think being trans is a choice, but i digress

i absolutely loathe being seen as "trans" rather than the gender i identify as - though i highly prefer if one would just stop referring to people by gender and use their name instead, would save a lot of time and tears

sexism isn't limited on men hating women or vise versa - if you see us as our gender over our entire being then you're stuck in the same problem as people in traditional, hella sexist times
what i don't see how it seems that i said anything about a choice at all??? it's just part of who you are and it's not a negative thing so it shouldnt feel bad to say it.
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:19
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lean wrote:
wow i'm late but it literally just means someone has an alignment to womanhood, gender is an extremely broad thing and not as rigid as people often assume. just because someone is nonbinary doesn't mean they automatically don't feel gender at all.

like an afab nonminary person can still be seen as a woman, experience misogyny, and generally experience the world the way a "woman" does, and for some nonbinary people that is what makes them feel alignment to womanhood. 
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:22
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I'm a nonbinary lesbian, although I typically just use gay. Kit explained it nicely. I don't want to argue about this, but for the love of god, just let trans people be
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:29
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Claire wrote:
Ataraxia wrote:
im asking respectfully, no hate or discrimination intended. just curiosity.

can i just say a lot of you guys are being real aggresive to OP who clearly came at this from a good place lol 

like if you can't ask questions like this then you can't ask questions at all. this was super polite and so clearly from a place of trying to understand.
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:31
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Limbs wrote:
why are there so many straight cis people in this thread debating about something that doesn't concern you in any way n when the thread was addressed to literally not you.... 
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:31
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lean wrote:
Limbs wrote:
why are there so many straight cis people in this thread debating about something that doesn't concern you in any way n when the thread was addressed to literally not you.... 
striaght people be like "i can't grasp this idea so of course it's nonsense"
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:33
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autism wrote:
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why are there so many straight cis people in this thread debating about something that doesn't concern you in any way n when the thread was addressed to literally not you.... 
i've been wondering this as well 
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Date: 14-03-2021 19:34
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Claire wrote:
Ataraxia wrote:
im asking respectfully, no hate or discrimination intended. just curiosity.

can i just say a lot of you guys are being real aggresive to OP who clearly came at this from a good place lol 

like if you can't ask questions like this then you can't ask questions at all. this was super polite and so clearly from a place of trying to understand.
yeah 
if ppl asking any questions is meet w hostility and belittlement, it wont change anything. 
Date: 14-03-2021 19:35
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Limbs wrote:
lean wrote:
Limbs wrote:
why are there so many straight cis people in this thread debating about something that doesn't concern you in any way n when the thread was addressed to literally not you.... 
striaght people be like "i can't grasp this idea so of course it's nonsense"
lmao yea
like "i just can't understand this"... ok.... then don't? you don't need to, why are u making that everyone's problem
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