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Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

commander2 wrote:
i havent been paying 2 much attention bbut from what i see ppl treat it 2 much like idk entertainment which ticks me off

it's scary. like

this tweet was viral

twitter.com/Baller130696/status/1521397549261004800

like WHOEVER you beleive this person has done cosplay of abuse. like if amber was faking a bruise thats abusive to johnny and this person is cosplaying that abuse. or its a real bruise and this person is cosplaying abuse. it's fucking freaky and it went VIRAL.

also the sentiment that somehow this proves that amber heard is lying??? like the whole idea that suddenly everyone is a lawyer, psychologist, etc. and knows oh so well what is fake or not ??? this is exactly why abuse victims in general don't come forward bc it's textbook victim blaming

like it literally doesnt prove anything but putting that aside it's a gross display of how this case is entertainment shes literally doing cosplay of abuse.

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Koolaid wrote:
'she's looking johnny in the eye so she must be lying' do you understand what this means for abuse victims as a whole??? to know that every single mannerism, every single sentence, can be used to disprove you in the court of social media? this type of armchair psychology producing viral tweets does SO much damage to abuse victims as a whole. my anger is NOT about amber heard's treatment, it's how people will extrapolate this type of mentality to other real abuse victims, that's what im angry about

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December wrote:
I've followed almost the entire trial and I'm sorry but I truly believe Johnny is the victim. I'm not saying he's totally innocent, but I think she drove him insane and he lost his mind. But to me it seems more like he was a danger to himself not to her. And to me it looks like Amber is acting, I know everyone reacts to things differently but I just can't believe her, it looks like theatre acting. I've also seen videos of when she's had a really bad attitude and Johnny always seem genuinely nice. But both are actors, we will never know what truly happened. But Amber definitely seemed like the dominant one in the relationship, and he always looked so uncomfortable around her.

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Peppu wrote:
the saddest most important part what everyone seems to be forgetting:
its DEFAMATION! Therefore if Depp is deemed or proven to be guilty in any kind of abuse towards Heard - he might lose the case. The percentage of defamation trials won is also significantly low.

Even if Heard has lied now 5 to 10 times? on the cross iit doesnt affect as much, since she is indeed a woman and the trial isnt held to figure out who is guilty of the abuse in their relationship.
Its about Depp suing Heard for an op-ed, nothing more nothing less.

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Noir wrote:

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I think evwryone is always like"oh no we can't criticize women for how they look poor women" and in the same breath say "ew look gross balding man with pot belly" like ok lol. That is my opinion, I think either criticize everyones looks (best option cus ppl can't help themselves) or stop alltogether even if they r like, hitler in their personality

yes i also agree w this. it's both wrong. but i do think for women, looks are far more important and judged than men.

Thats not true. As a women with only women friends i can say that my friends judge so much guys because of their looks. If he isnt tall, has a six-pack, nice hair, nice smile and doesnt wear nice clothes, he is not atractive. I think its either ways.

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Koolaid wrote:

Peppu wrote:
the saddest most important part what everyone seems to be forgetting:
its DEFAMATION! Therefore if Depp is deemed or proven to be guilty in any kind of abuse towards Heard - he might lose the case. The percentage of defamation trials won is also significantly low.

Even if Heard has lied now 5 to 10 times? on the cross iit doesnt affect as much, since she is indeed a woman and the trial isnt held to figure out who is guilty of the abuse in their relationship.
Its about Depp suing Heard for an op-ed, nothing more nothing less.

also we're in america and freedom of speech is like super big there. so yea it's hard to win

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Koolaid wrote:

Noir wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

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I think evwryone is always like"oh no we can't criticize women for how they look poor women" and in the same breath say "ew look gross balding man with pot belly" like ok lol. That is my opinion, I think either criticize everyones looks (best option cus ppl can't help themselves) or stop alltogether even if they r like, hitler in their personality

yes i also agree w this. it's both wrong. but i do think for women, looks are far more important and judged than men.

Thats not true. As a women with only women friends i can say that my friends judge so much guys because of their looks. If he isnt tall, has a six-pack, nice hair, nice smile and doesnt wear nice clothes, he is not atractive. I think its either ways.

fair, my experience is completely different, for someone who has both men and women in their circles. but again, i wouldn't know what men say amongst each other.

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Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Peppu wrote:
the saddest most important part what everyone seems to be forgetting:
its DEFAMATION! Therefore if Depp is deemed or proven to be guilty in any kind of abuse towards Heard - he might lose the case. The percentage of defamation trials won is also significantly low.

Even if Heard has lied now 5 to 10 times? on the cross iit doesnt affect as much, since she is indeed a woman and the trial isnt held to figure out who is guilty of the abuse in their relationship.
Its about Depp suing Heard for an op-ed, nothing more nothing less.

also we're in america and freedom of speech is like super big there. so yea it's hard to win

like almost impossible to win this in america. he already lost a defamation case in europe. but he does not need to win the case. this isn't about the actual case for him it's about the PR and winning over the public again. he got what he needs from this.

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Koolaid wrote:

December wrote:
I've followed almost the entire trial and I'm sorry but I truly believe Johnny is the victim. I'm not saying he's totally innocent, but I think she drove him insane and he lost his mind. But to me it seems more like he was a danger to himself not to her. And to me it looks like Amber is acting, I know everyone reacts to things differently but I just can't believe her, it looks like theatre acting. I've also seen videos of when she's had a really bad attitude and Johnny always seem genuinely nice. But both are actors, we will never know what truly happened. But Amber definitely seemed like the dominant one in the relationship, and he always looked so uncomfortable around her.

to me it also seems that johnny depp is the victim. but again, i'm very weary making judgements like that. as you said, they are BOTH actors, and both famous, and we don't know them.

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Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Peppu wrote:
the saddest most important part what everyone seems to be forgetting:
its DEFAMATION! Therefore if Depp is deemed or proven to be guilty in any kind of abuse towards Heard - he might lose the case. The percentage of defamation trials won is also significantly low.

Even if Heard has lied now 5 to 10 times? on the cross iit doesnt affect as much, since she is indeed a woman and the trial isnt held to figure out who is guilty of the abuse in their relationship.
Its about Depp suing Heard for an op-ed, nothing more nothing less.

also we're in america and freedom of speech is like super big there. so yea it's hard to win

like almost impossible to win this in america. he already lost a defamation case in europe. but he does not need to win the case. this isn't about the actual case for him it's about the PR and winning over the public again. he got what he needs from this.

yes exactly. especially his loss will make him a martyr, which is exactly what he wants. he wants the rage from his male fans, he wants this as a 'see, this is why men are not believed!'

winning over the court of public opinion was his end goal all along

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devilcake wrote:
Idk if it think it’s the specific interest from men as much as it is they way all people interact with what’s going on and are creating content about it, like some of the video titles I’ve seen feel very “depp powns amber heards lawyers with facts and logic” which is a slippery slope to misogyny and all kinds discriminatory shit, and then on another hand u also have the other type of content which feels very like omg girlies here’s the tea which is just invade these peoples privacy Britney style 2.0

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Claire wrote:
here koolaid you'll like this guy's take on this and then the comments on this video are pretty sane too

How We Discuss Celebrity Culture Has To Change

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Koolaid wrote:

devilcake wrote:
Idk if it think it’s the specific interest from men as much as it is they way all people interact with what’s going on and are creating content about it, like some of the video titles I’ve seen feel very “depp powns amber heards lawyers with facts and logic” which is a slippery slope to misogyny and all kinds discriminatory shit, and then on another hand u also have the other type of content which feels very like omg girlies here’s the tea which is just invade these peoples privacy Britney style 2.0

omg yea i can't stand the tiktoks on it. and also the 'feminism gets OWNED by ben shapiro' to incel pipeline is still fresh in my mind

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Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:
here koolaid you'll like this guy's take on this and then the comments on this video are pretty sane too

How We Discuss Celebrity Culture Has To Change

thanks!! put it on my watchlist

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Koolaid wrote:

devilcake wrote:
Idk if it think it’s the specific interest from men as much as it is they way all people interact with what’s going on and are creating content about it, like some of the video titles I’ve seen feel very “depp powns amber heards lawyers with facts and logic” which is a slippery slope to misogyny and all kinds discriminatory shit, and then on another hand u also have the other type of content which feels very like omg girlies here’s the tea which is just invade these peoples privacy Britney style 2.0

omg yea i can't stand the tiktoks on it. and also the 'feminism gets OWNED by ben shapiro' to incel pipeline is still fresh in my mind

it's kind of shameful to admit but yea i fell down this pipeline when i was in high school. we need to have a serious discussion of how easy it is to fall down the ben shapiro jordan peterson pipeline, and how people are radicalized by youtube continuously recommending such content to us.