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Annie
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Annie wrote:
im getting confused now
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Annie wrote:
im getting confused now
and i'm getting brain damage
Date: 14-12-2020 17:59
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disintegration wrote:
Alam wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

tbh, toxic masculinity is even painful for cishet men - not all, but ... not everyone is toxic and bad
Yuh, in the democratic first world, it is, for the most part, more dangerous for men's mental health than it is for women's.

not really sure i agree here because gender roles are still such a big and toxic part of modern societies

like women still suffer violence because of that in relationships,...
Date: 14-12-2020 17:59
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
I think its toxic for everyone tbh, and it's why I despise radfems (in the "sex as a class"  sense not anachro-feminists) and political lesbianism/lesbian and/or women separatism 

When I really think about it it actually sounds sexist af 

Women can never chose a man who is good for them, men are always toxic and abusive, women are more empathetic and nurturing thus more kind and make better partners 

Um... I like to think women are strong enough to demand respect and you know guys don't have to be tools 

Also honestly women can be just as difficult, I am bi my heart was broken by a straight 

oh, it is fucking sexist, no argument here
there is literally no difference between thinking all men should die or all women should die
it's absolutely the same
Actually my argument is thinking all men are toxic is basically believing we cant rid ourselves of patriarchy and also tends to rely on gender stereotypes and stuff 
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
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Spookyjimchristmas
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spookyjimchristmas wrote:
i am learning so much from everyone today 
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wug wrote:
Annie wrote:
im getting confused now
me whenever you youth discuss anything 
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MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Alam wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Alam wrote:
That being said, men make me uncomfortable for being men. And that's on toxic masculinity as a trans guy.

tbh, toxic masculinity is even painful for cishet men - not all, but ... not everyone is toxic and bad
Yuh, in the democratic first world, it is, for the most part, more dangerous for men's mental health than it is for women's.

yup, and people still deny it
I feel like that whole political "feminist" (it's not real feminism, let's be honest about this) movement is actually the cause for movements like the incels to gain more and more power and more toxic masculinity to be perpetuated
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Anachronism wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

oh, it is fucking sexist, no argument here
there is literally no difference between thinking all men should die or all women should die
it's absolutely the same
Actually my argument is thinking all men are toxic is basically believing we cant rid ourselves of patriarchy and also tends to rely on gender stereotypes and stuff 
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
Date: 14-12-2020 17:59
Spookyjimchristmas
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spookyjimchristmas wrote:
spookyjimchristmas wrote:
i am learning so much from everyone today 
but all of you are using big words so im also very confused
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spookyjimchristmas wrote:
spookyjimchristmas wrote:
i am learning so much from everyone today 
but all of you are using big words so im also very confused

don't be intimidated, we are also very stupid
Date: 14-12-2020 18:00
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

oh, it is fucking sexist, no argument here
there is literally no difference between thinking all men should die or all women should die
it's absolutely the same
Actually my argument is thinking all men are toxic is basically believing we cant rid ourselves of patriarchy and also tends to rely on gender stereotypes and stuff 
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 

I feel like that still connects to my point? might just be that I reached my language understanding here :d
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Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Actually my argument is thinking all men are toxic is basically believing we cant rid ourselves of patriarchy and also tends to rely on gender stereotypes and stuff 
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
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Alam
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Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Alam wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

tbh, toxic masculinity is even painful for cishet men - not all, but ... not everyone is toxic and bad
Yuh, in the democratic first world, it is, for the most part, more dangerous for men's mental health than it is for women's.

not really sure i agree here because gender roles are still such a big and toxic part of modern societies
Yeah, and they hurt men almost as much as they do women, but women have support systems in place for when they do and men don't, not as much.
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ouch wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Actually my argument is thinking all men are toxic is basically believing we cant rid ourselves of patriarchy and also tends to rely on gender stereotypes and stuff 
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh


words.. no meaning.. make no sense..
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wug wrote:
disintegration wrote:
spookyjimchristmas wrote:
spookyjimchristmas wrote:
i am learning so much from everyone today 
but all of you are using big words so im also very confused

don't be intimidated, we are also very stupid
everyone should be intimidated always 
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