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Barbarella wrote:
Y'know I think a lot about how historically women have used sex to gain anything resembling financial independence or position in society

and it's kinda sad that it's still a borderline necessity today - fuckin' wow lol


but also I ain't gonna judge women who partake, we're all trying to navigate this capitalist hellscape the best we can

also are we just defining sex work as sex and porn?
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Date: 18-09-2021 01:06
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Claire wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Y'know I think a lot about how historically women have used sex to gain anything resembling financial independence or position in society

and it's kinda sad that it's still a borderline necessity today - fuckin' wow lol


but also I ain't gonna judge women who partake, we're all trying to navigate this capitalist hellscape the best we can

also are we just defining sex work as sex and porn?
see thats a whole other interesting conversation how do we define sex work. 
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Date: 18-09-2021 01:07
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Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
just here to say claire , please share ur afghanistan take.
lmfao

ok guys you can cancel me and im sure that this is like a racist take

but the US shouldn't take male refugees we should only take female refugees the males handed over their country to the taliban they can stay there its the women who are gonna suffer.
Literally no, Claire, thousands and thousands of people, MOSTLY men have sided with and helped the US fighting against the Taliban, what the actual fuck are you talking about?

i think i explained myself enough already lol i didnt say its a good take it is what it is
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Date: 18-09-2021 01:08
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Barbarella wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Y'know I think a lot about how historically women have used sex to gain anything resembling financial independence or position in society

and it's kinda sad that it's still a borderline necessity today - fuckin' wow lol


but also I ain't gonna judge women who partake, we're all trying to navigate this capitalist hellscape the best we can

also are we just defining sex work as sex and porn?



me popping up on page fuckin' 9 stoned off my ass 
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Koolaid wrote:
ouch wrote:
Claires Afganistan take kinda similar to what I voted the other day for norwegian election thing mby. But hers is rooted in feminism (I guess??) But not mine. ANYWAYS, stricter immigration laws and requirements. Proper training in language, get a job etc bla bla bla. I think we legit have courses for the men to not be misogynistic allegedly. I feel like w that solution, u could take Afghani men into the us too, just gotta have control. Not free flow of ppl w very different view on women n other stuff. Tho this is allegedly islamophobic and racist but whatever
it's interesting cause i think yes help the refugees but also an incontrolled intake of more ppl only leads to bad living conditions for them cause which government has money and place for all of them lol we're literally sinking in internal problems BUT yeah training and making sure they dont end up in cycles of impoverty which also makes them more prone to terrorist recruitmentp
Helping them get jobs (or making it a requirement to get a job to live here), language courses, mixing up the locations of where u put ppl, proper training in norwegian (american here tho) culture and values, is the most important stuff imo. Good immigration is vital, cus u often see, at least here, more refugees are misogynistic, homophobic, gang violence (amongst youth in places which r dominated by refugees), live on welfare, etc etc compared to ppl who are born here. 

I don't have any issue taking in immigrants, but if ur not gonna integrate them properly, I would rather just take in none 
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Barbarella wrote:
Claire wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Y'know I think a lot about how historically women have used sex to gain anything resembling financial independence or position in society

and it's kinda sad that it's still a borderline necessity today - fuckin' wow lol


but also I ain't gonna judge women who partake, we're all trying to navigate this capitalist hellscape the best we can

also are we just defining sex work as sex and porn?
see thats a whole other interesting conversation how do we define sex work. 
back before covid I went to burlesque shows regularly and some consider those performers sex workers

and did different things qualify as sex work at different points in history?
I mean, they used to have essentially flipbooks of women stripping in these old timey fuckers
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Claire wrote:
Claire wrote:
Barbarella wrote:
Y'know I think a lot about how historically women have used sex to gain anything resembling financial independence or position in society

and it's kinda sad that it's still a borderline necessity today - fuckin' wow lol


but also I ain't gonna judge women who partake, we're all trying to navigate this capitalist hellscape the best we can

also are we just defining sex work as sex and porn?
see thats a whole other interesting conversation how do we define sex work. 
like hooters is kinda sex work
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Koolaid wrote:
OMG i just noticed that was a wholeass run-on sentence LOL it's late im sorry
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Arthema wrote:
ouch wrote:
Claires Afganistan take kinda similar to what I voted the other day for norwegian election thing mby. But hers is rooted in feminism (I guess??) But not mine. ANYWAYS, stricter immigration laws and requirements. Proper training in language, get a job etc bla bla bla. I think we legit have courses for the men to not be misogynistic allegedly. I feel like w that solution, u could take Afghani men into the us too, just gotta have control. Not free flow of ppl w very different view on women n other stuff. Tho this is allegedly islamophobic and racist but whatever
I don't care if people will think I'm a dumbass for thinking like that,
but it's not islamophobic to think that they CAN be DEEPLY misogynistic because of their culture and upbringing, resulting in higher violence\rape\forced marriage\underage marriage statistics

it is however rasict and islamophobic thinking they're ALL like that, although
I literally encountered a man in Berlin being SO fucking rude, just because I'm azeri and look Turkic, he had the audacity to try and hit me up and flirt with me, thinking because we're from somewhat similar culture (might I say, not really) but just because of that fact he allowed himself to try and touch me and arrange something between us when he learned I wanna immigrate to Germany.

But I kinda agree with your opinion, not because of the feminist side but more of well...
After coming to Germany I've discovered how many people are literally disgusting leeches that are feeding off the government there and just... disgusting.
I might not be German and well... I wanna immigrate here as well, but I'm willing to work my ass off learning the language and everything needed to integrate here and not stick out like a sour thumb.

God sometimes I hate men but then I remember not everyone are like that
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Koolaid wrote:
ouch wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
ouch wrote:
Claires Afganistan take kinda similar to what I voted the other day for norwegian election thing mby. But hers is rooted in feminism (I guess??) But not mine. ANYWAYS, stricter immigration laws and requirements. Proper training in language, get a job etc bla bla bla. I think we legit have courses for the men to not be misogynistic allegedly. I feel like w that solution, u could take Afghani men into the us too, just gotta have control. Not free flow of ppl w very different view on women n other stuff. Tho this is allegedly islamophobic and racist but whatever
it's interesting cause i think yes help the refugees but also an incontrolled intake of more ppl only leads to bad living conditions for them cause which government has money and place for all of them lol we're literally sinking in internal problems BUT yeah training and making sure they dont end up in cycles of impoverty which also makes them more prone to terrorist recruitmentp
Helping them get jobs (or making it a requirement to get a job to live here), language courses, mixing up the locations of where u put ppl, proper training in norwegian (american here tho) culture and values, is the most important stuff imo. Good immigration is vital, cus u often see, at least here, more refugees are misogynistic, homophobic, gang violence (amongst youth in places which r dominated by refugees), live on welfare, etc etc compared to ppl who are born here. 

I don't have any issue taking in immigrants, but if ur not gonna integrate them properly, I would rather just take in none 
its so messed up bc countries want the gold stars for taking in immigrants but neglect to integrate them properly. then these immigrants grow up to be "bad examples" so inhabitants are like fuck no no more immigrants aaaaa
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Claire wrote:
like idk i read this the day they reached kabul and like these arent men i wanna accept i wanna save these women from them 

An Afghan woman in Kabul: ‘Now I have to burn everything I achieved’ | Afghanistan | The Guardian

like some of these men have been WAITING for the taliban to come back becuase they HATE women that much. 

and i do not doubt that many conservative men in my own country would do the same.
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Claire wrote:
me talking about afghanistan like i know literally anything on the subject when i knew damn well my hot take was bad
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Arthema wrote:
Claire wrote:
like idk i read this the day they reached kabul and like these arent men i wanna accept i wanna save these women from them 

An Afghan woman in Kabul: ‘Now I have to burn everything I achieved’ | Afghanistan | The Guardian

like some of these men have been WAITING for the taliban to come back becuase they HATE women that much. 

and i do not doubt that many conservative men in my own country would do the same.
Imagine thinking like that just because you have a dick.
back to hating men it is
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Koolaid wrote:
this also ties into organized religion and how i think that islam is just a really bad example of how culture and organized religion can go wrongtbh
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Koolaid wrote:
Claire wrote:
me talking about afghanistan like i know literally anything on the subject when i knew damn well my hot take was bad

dw i have even worse takes
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