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kinda unpopular opinion......?
Duckgirl
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duckgirl wrote:
ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
ouch wrote:
I don't have to b gay to support gay ppl, I don't have to be happy about my own body to support body positivity, I don't have to be vegetarian to see the benefits of living that lifestyle and supporting those who do, I don't have to be normal weight to see that its healthier to not b morbidly obese

supporting gay people isnt equal as preaching you're all abt body positivity but will keep getting plastic surgeries to look like an imposed ideal
Im just saying ur not a hypocrite for getting surgery n still preach body positivity, isn't all ppl preaching ur cause beneficial 
supporting people because they exist and have a different sexuality than the norm in society isnt equal to preaching loving your body and then hate your own body, again
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:05
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Raquelle wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Raquelle wrote:
i dont care about other people’s bodies in a political way

only in lesbian way
it's anti body positive to have a sexual preference 
Well god damn it
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:06
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Kino wrote:
i dont see how striving for an ideal is negative in 100% of cases cause it's not

and yes. there are so, so many people who preach body positivity who would without a doubt get plastic surgery if they had the option
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Medusa wrote:
body positivity means u love ur body not that u love with all its flaws
therefore u can support bodypositivity after surgeries.
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Duckgirl
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duckgirl wrote:
ouch wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
What is wrong with that? Does that have to be inherently negative? Can you like a certain aesthetic or ideal in a way that celebrates yourself? Plus were all influenced by our surroundings anyway, like why is it that art influenced by trends is ok but when it's a person's body, we have to tell them how much they'll regret it? 

Tbh you sound judgmental. I mean bdd and low self esteem is one thing but I think you're mistaken in thinking that is universal to plastic surgery customers.
if youre changing how you look because you open instagram and see "ideal bodies" and believe that thats how you should look like, then yes, its negtive as fuck
im not saying that you will automatically regret getting a plastic surgery, but still you should not preach about loving your body if you in fact hate your body n would 100% change it if possible

i dont care if i sound judgmental. im 2 tired seeing pictures of ideal bodies n ppl believing that its totally healthy 2 change your body just bc you dont look a certain way
U don't think there r many ppl like this in the body positive movement lmao? Everyone has to start somewhere, wherever they are in their journey u should always support them anyways and not guard them out bcus ur petty
i already called out the ppl who r in the "body positivity" movement who have plastic surgeries all over themselves n preach abt loving urself
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ouch wrote:
I would say probably, let's say, 50% of the population is body positive. How many of those, regardless of them getting plastic surgery or not, are unhappy with their own body ?? Probably like 80%. Would u like to just, remove them cus u don't think they deserve to b body positive lmao ?
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Kino wrote:
hating your body is like the stepping stone into body positivity. you enter because you hate yourself. you stay because it either works or makes it worse but it's your only option so you can't leave
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Duckgirl
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duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
i dont see how striving for an ideal is negative in 100% of cases cause it's not

and yes. there are so, so many people who preach body positivity who would without a doubt get plastic surgery if they had the option
care to explain when is it positive to strive a physical ideal that does not have to do with physical health
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Kino wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
i dont see how striving for an ideal is negative in 100% of cases cause it's not

and yes. there are so, so many people who preach body positivity who would without a doubt get plastic surgery if they had the option
care to explain when is it positive to strive a physical ideal that does not have to do with physical health
mental wellbeing
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:07
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Limbs wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
Limbs wrote:
y'all care so much about things it's astonishing 2 me
i swear u always make comments like this whenever ppl r Simply having a discussion about a topic lmfao
sorry ig?
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:08
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
i guess i explained it wrongfully but ppl who had surgery because of physical problems should not even be talked abt bc obviously ppl who have physical problems that make them actual physical harm arent the same as people who will change something abt themselves just because they want to follow a trend or look like someone / an ideal
What is wrong with that? Does that have to be inherently negative? Can you like a certain aesthetic or ideal in a way that celebrates yourself? Plus were all influenced by our surroundings anyway, like why is it that art influenced by trends is ok but when it's a person's body, we have to tell them how much they'll regret it? 

Tbh you sound judgmental. I mean bdd and low self esteem is one thing but I think you're mistaken in thinking that is universal to plastic surgery customers.
if youre changing how you look because you open instagram and see "ideal bodies" and believe that thats how you should look like, then yes, its negtive as fuck
im not saying that you will automatically regret getting a plastic surgery, but still you should not preach about loving your body if you in fact hate your body n would 100% change it if possible

i dont care if i sound judgmental. im 2 tired seeing pictures of ideal bodies n ppl believing that its totally healthy 2 change your body just bc you dont look a certain way
I agree that the idea of an "ideal body" is a wrong one, and that plastic surgery to reach that goal probably wont end up positively, but I dont think plastic surgery itself is the problem. That would be beauty standards. 

I disagree with your last point though. You cant be insecure yet try to work on it? I preach loving yourself despite my very low self esteem, am I now a hypocrite? I know my attitude sux, I dont want ppl to emulate it, and I preach self love cuz I'm trying to achieve that, but I'm a fucking human and self esteem takes time to build.
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:10
Duckgirl
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duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
i dont see how striving for an ideal is negative in 100% of cases cause it's not

and yes. there are so, so many people who preach body positivity who would without a doubt get plastic surgery if they had the option
care to explain when is it positive to strive a physical ideal that does not have to do with physical health
mental wellbeing
have you thought that the reason why ppl get obsessed with looking like an ideal, is that these ideals create the false idea that their bodies are wrong and that that's the reason why they should change
so then, an ideal is making people change because they feel wrong about it

beauty is all about trends and ideals of the time so
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Pavlov wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
care to explain when is it positive to strive a physical ideal that does not have to do with physical health
mental wellbeing
have you thought that the reason why ppl get obsessed with looking like an ideal, is that these ideals create the false idea that their bodies are wrong and that that's the reason why they should change
so then, an ideal is making people change because they feel wrong about it

beauty is all about trends and ideals of the time so
u cant blame that solely on people having plastic surgery
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:12
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
duckgirl wrote:
Trainor wrote:
i dont see how striving for an ideal is negative in 100% of cases cause it's not

and yes. there are so, so many people who preach body positivity who would without a doubt get plastic surgery if they had the option
care to explain when is it positive to strive a physical ideal that does not have to do with physical health
I think it depends on if it's coming from a place of growth or seld expression or to fix imperfections
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Date: 30-09-2020 22:12
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ouch wrote:
Why demonize the ppl getting plastic surgery when they r just the effect of beauty standards in society (which is what u should actually strive to be against instead of looking bad for not letting ppl be body positive cus uwuw hypocrisy) like these ppl need the same amount of body positivity as anyone else, maybe even more ??
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